Doms Drums

[ADAM]

I would like to know everything about doms drums.

I know they are tama rockstars, i know the sizes but i would like to know the colour is and what hardware and cymbals he uses.

I have heard may different cymbals being talked about but i want to know his exact set up.

[The Nargmaster]

I know that he uses more than one set

[Walton]

They're black.
I think he uses Zildjan cymbals.

[no3chris]

i thought he used tama starclassics ?

[Mezzair]

i thought he used tama starclassics ?

Correct :)

[Mezzair]

I would like to know everything about doms drums.

I know they are tama rockstars, i know the sizes but i would like to know the colour is and what hardware and cymbals he uses.

I have heard may different cymbals being talked about but i want to know his exact set up.

I can list everything of the hullaballoo tour, if your intrested?

[no3chris]

Correct :)

:p yay and im not even a drummer

[darren_the_bass_guy]

quick look on muse and muse maybe?

[ADAM]

I thought he used a Tama Rockstar set?

Go on then Mezzair, please tell me everything about the hullabaloo tour (cuz im guessing very little has changed since then)

[Mezzair]

I thought he used a Tama Rockstar set?

Go on then Mezzair, please tell me everything about the hullabaloo tour (cuz im guessing very little has changed since then)

Hullaballoo:

Tama Maple Start Classic
12"x12"
14"x14"
16"x16"

( Do I have the bass drum and snare sizes, I will dig them out)

8" EFX
11" Oriental Splash
13" Mastersound Hi-Hats
18" A Custom Crash
19" A Custom Crash
18" Oriental China Trash
20" Dark K Custom Ride.

IC double, Aquarian heads

[|Cypher|]

Yes it is a Tamastar Maplestar Classic

His setup hasn't changed at all really since hullabaloo. Only differance is he uses that weird china trash a bit more now and has moved it in front of him, between the ride and the 12x12.

[Aqudan]

i think the bass is 24 x 18

he apparently switches between 2 snares, a starclassic 14x5.5 and a ludwig black beuty, in the same size.

this is my dom/muse page (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/susanmiddleton/scores/muse/muse.html)

[El Zilcho]

It's a Starclassic Maple kit by Tama...

[Mezzair]

It's a Starclassic Maple kit by Tama...

Yes, excuse my typ0s
:(

[El Zilcho]

Yes, excuse my typ0s
:(

I was much more shocked by "Tamastar Maplestar Classic" ;) :D

[ADAM]

i think the bass is 24 x 18

he apparently switches between 2 snares, a starclassic 14x5.5 and a ludwig black beuty, in the same size.

this is my dom/muse page (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/susanmiddleton/scores/muse/muse.html)

LOVING the website! :D :D :D

[Aqudan]

LOVING the website! :D :D :D

thanks :) its only a rough version, but all my scores n stuff are there :)

[Blannard]

Sorry to bring up an old topic, but I wondered if anyone can help with this:

What is that thing Dom uses in concert, between his mounted tom and ride cymbal, it looks like 3 bent metal bars, uses it in TiRO.

[6ixty_6ix]

a gig-tech, not sure exactly wot it is, sum 1 had a link aaaages ago

[the pearl guy]

its called a rythmtech crasher, its around £50.
i wouldnt recommend getting one, mine is sitting around gathering dust, cos i have no clamp or desire to by one really.

[DominicHoward]

Although his drum setup may not have changed much since hullabaloo, his cymbal setup certainly has!

He now uses K Dark Crashes instead of the A Customs (Hullabaloo)
He uses K Hi-Hats instead of the A Customs (Hullabaloo)
He has an extra crash, it's oriental, that's all I know.
It's a 22" K Custom ride he uses, not a 20".

And yes, it's a Rhythmtech Crasher that he uses in both Megalomania (Hullabaloo) and live and recorded versions of TIRO.

And you call yourselves Dom fans...

[Mezzair]

Although his drum setup may not have changed much since hullabaloo, his cymbal setup certainly has!

He now uses K Dark Crashes instead of the A Customs (Hullabaloo)
He uses K Hi-Hats instead of the A Customs (Hullabaloo)
He has an extra crash, it's oriental, that's all I know.
It's a 22" K Custom ride he uses, not a 20".

And yes, it's a Rhythmtech Crasher that he uses in both Megalomania (Hullabaloo) and live and recorded versions of TIRO.

And you call yourselves Dom fans...

The extracrash is called the "Crash Of Doom".

I still think its a 20" ride, do you have any evidence that it is a 22"?

[no3chris]

crash of doom ! wow ! take one more o and and then you realise why he bought it :D

[the pearl guy]

haha crash of doom. who makes it? zildjian?

[|Cypher|]

haha crash of doom. who makes it? zildjian?

Yes.

Google knows all. ;)

[the pearl guy]

Yes.

Google knows all. ;)

you would have though i would have thought of that :rolleyes: ....oh well

[Aqudan]

crash of dooms are cool :cool: collin woolway had on when i went to one of his clinics

[6ixty_6ix]

wot duz it sound like? oriental?

[Aqudan]

it was quite loud and trashy and surprisingly bright

[6ixty_6ix]

doesnt sound that loud wen he uses it, not much diffrence 2 his crash

[Aqudan]

it sounded fairly loud where i was, but it could be a miking up thing

is he using the crash of dooom instead of his oriental china thingy?

[6ixty_6ix]

na wudnt ov thought so, he only uses it in tiro, citizen erased, s4a n B+H

[Nav]

What sticks does Dom use?? I've got a pair of Chad Smith vatar customs at the moment, but i wanna get the sticks Dom uses....

...As well as every over bit of kit he uses, hopefully i'll be able to do this by march, gonna raise money by teaching drums, once i have sat my grade 5 exam.

How much you reckon his kit, cymbals, stands, drums, the lot would cost, approx???

[the pearl guy]

starclassix maples go for around 1800-2000 i think...that was last time i checked. normal starclassics are a lot cheaper though.
i may just be totally wrong though...

[DominicHoward]

Yeah, I'd like to know what sticks he uses.

Ahh Oriental Crash of Doom, Travis Barker used to use on of them! :)

I might just buy one of them, they sound pretty sweet.

I don't have hard evidence, if only Dom would get off his arse, get on here and tell us.

[JamesT]

Doms Sticks are made by a small compay called Schure

the Crash of doom is mounted to his right next to the crash over his hats, its not replased the China which is still to his left between the 13 and 16 floor toms,

[JamesT]

Its a 22" ride,

hang on.. why do you want sticks like dom? do you think having his sticks will make you play better? stick choice is a personal thing its down to you do go out and get stick just cos your hero has them, you have no idea how many kids damage their arms with Travis and adrian young Sig sticks

[the pearl guy]

ypu have no idea how many kids hurt there ears listning to blink182... :D

[stiffi]

what was postman pat called when he was made redundant? :confused:

[no3chris]

drug dealin pat

[DominicHoward]

Doms Sticks are made by a small compay called Schure

the Crash of doom is mounted to his right next to the crash over his hats, its not replased the China which is still to his left between the 13 and 16 floor toms,

Well, never heard of the stick makers. Well, Shure make Mics e.t.c, sure you ain't got them mixed up?

And no, the China is just above the 16" floor tom. Slightly towards the 14".

[Megile]

Does Dom use Double Bass Pedals? it certainly sounds like he does on Hullabaloo :confused:

[Mikhail Gorbachev]

Yes he does.

[Aqudan]

if this debate starts again i may have to shoot someone :indiff:

[DominicHoward]

Course he does, christ, how clueless are you!?

[Gemsy]

Teh Dommy dwums. :D

[Nav]

Dom deso'nt use double base pedals, he had them on his kit at one point but never used them, so he took them off for the more recent gigs i think, course i may have this all wrong, but plus if you listen to the drumming on the songs, then try and play it you can play it without double base, plus on a lot of tracks he has his hi hat foot constantly going.

He had them on at the MEN and i think he might have used them to spice things up, but he doesnt use them for recording, though i dunno i suppose, you decide.

Though in my opinion he does'nt.

[the pearl guy]

he used to use them for the intro for cave didnt he? once that came off the stlist i suppose he didnt need then anymore much. sorry for continuing the old argument...

[Aqudan]

MOVING ON (sorry to all new people who want to know about doms pedals but use the search function :| theres been a million* arguments about this)

this isn't really related to his kit but does anyone know if dom had lessons or was he self taught? he seems to know his rudiments n stuff so i'm guessing he had some lessons.give me names people! hehe






*not necesarily accurate

[Nav]

He can keep his hi hat foot going constant while using his base foot for beats, so i'm guessing he used to play alot of swing or jazz, when he was learning to play.

[6ixty_6ix]

yeh i spose so but if u practise alot u can do that

[the pearl guy]

dom was into old skool rap and things and that was what got him into drumming, and then he started to get into rock more as he got older. Im pretty sure thats what he said, it was on gonzo once.

[Aqudan]

i can kinda see how that would relate to his style. He kinda picks a groove for a section and doesn't really stray from it, as would electronic drums.
makes sense in my head . .

[6ixty_6ix]

yeh tru, he usually puts his fave beat in most song like S4A and Apoc

[DistortionRox]

i need me some new skins n i love the sound of dom's toms so can anyone tell me what drum skins dom uses?

[6ixty_6ix]

remo pinstripes hav a nice sound

[the pearl guy]

aquarian double thins is it not? there is a thread on this, i started it! still u need to look around for the right heads that suit you and your kit becuase even with the same skins, your drums will be different and will have a different sounds to that of doms starclassic. still wating for my evans g2's....

[JamesT]

You will never get the sound for Doms drums with out Tama Starclassic Drums, Mics EQ Gating and Compression, so dont try,

Dom at the mo used Remo Emps on the batters and Ambasadors on the Reso,

also a CS black dont on the snare (6 1/5 Starclassic maple)
and PS3 on the kick

[Aqudan]

have aquarian dont something really bad? everyones starting to stop using / stocking them

[JamesT]

At the momant their Quality Controle aint so hot,

But in my View They still make great heads Im using them at the mo on my kit and they sound great,

Dom has never really used them on his full kit only right at the start, Then He used remo on all his toms and kick and a aquarian HE head on his snare

[6ixty_6ix]

u cudnt get doms sound out of ur drums even if u had everithin he has now, its ampliefied on his microphones, same with his cymbals they sound diffrent

[ADAM]

Anyone know the colour of his drums?

Also, how many different stands does he use?

AND...what does he tune his snare and tom-tom heads to? (is there a specific note which each head should be tuned to to sound great???)

:)

[the pearl guy]

hes had a few of varying colours. he had a very fetching emerald green colour in hullabaloo, a black kit on a live version of agitated, a silver one in a live version of citizen erased, a balck one with black hardware on the jonathon ross show, a gun metal grey one at the brit awards, and he was playing a metallic kit at the v fest, that i know for sure cos i was there! its difficult to tell cos of the lighting in these, sitll was fun looking htrough all my old mpegs. anyone know what type of pearl dom used to play befroe he got into starclassics?

[JamesT]

u cudnt get doms sound out of ur drums even if u had everithin he has now, its ampliefied on his microphones, same with his cymbals they sound diffrent

Isnt that what i said :rolleyes:

TAMA has officialy supplyed him with a Silver Sparkle Kit SC maple, Blue Sparkle SC maple ( colour now available to the public ) his new kit is a SC maple with Mirror Chrome Wrap and Black HW, All others you have seen him with have been rentals bar some used in studio,

His Old Pearl Kit was a Green Wrap Export,

As for the Cymbal Sound yes they will be EQ'd through the mic's to get them to that pitch, Hence Zildjian Z cust's cound Crap in person but great through a PA

[6ixty_6ix]

same with his K's, sound mellow and warm without microphone

[the pearl guy]

woo export! dom had the same drums as me....

[6ixty_6ix]

wot cymbals do u hav ded star?

[the pearl guy]

erm...horrible german brand schaller ones, theyre nasty but i had to cymbals when i got my kit in the summer, but next time i gig i can use my friends dads ones (his band gig with an electric not so they dont need them anymore) 20kcustom dark ride, 15+16" mehmet istanbul crashes, paiste signature splash and zildjian a newbeats.

[6ixty_6ix]

cool, i've got my eye on a Z custom 18" crash to replace my crakd 1

[the pearl guy]

hoe much is that gonna set you back? stumbled across an avedis 15" crash in a music shop in town, they were asking £200 for it. it wasnt even an a custom or anything...after some k hats of me own at the moment, but i need to get new heads for my toms first.

[6ixty_6ix]

cool, my dad owns my local music shop so i get a huge discount on cymbals etc, it'll cost me about £80

[DominicHoward]

hoe much is that gonna set you back? stumbled across an avedis 15" crash in a music shop in town, they were asking £200 for it. it wasnt even an a custom or anything...after some k hats of me own at the moment, but i need to get new heads for my toms first.

Get K Mastersounds (14"). I've got them and they're beautiful.

[the pearl guy]

yeah i love something like that, just they really do cost a lot of money :( how much did they set you back? maybye t.i.r.o can give me a discount...

[6ixty_6ix]

doubt it m8, i live in preston n its only that certain shop he manages, sum times zildjian are a bitch coz they some times don't allow discounts :indiff:

[DominicHoward]

yeah i love something like that, just they really do cost a lot of money :( how much did they set you back? maybye t.i.r.o can give me a discount...

Try www.newcastledrum.co.uk, they have great cymbal prices, without the overheads.

Problem is I got them in a sale :D Along with my 22" K Custom Ride and 17" A Custom Proj. Crash

[the pearl guy]

Along with my 22" K Custom Ride and 17" A Custom Proj. Crash

just had to add that in didnt you! yeah dpnt woryr t.i.r.o i wasnt being serious. i will have to go to the music shop i got my drums and beg for money off...they like me in there.

[ADAM]

Which Iron Cobra Pedal does he use?

A Flexi-glide? :confused:

[DominicHoward]

Which Iron Cobra Pedal does he use?

A Flexi-glide? :confused:

I guess he uses a Power-glide, most common and the best for hard hitting. It's what i've got. lol :D

[the pearl guy]

how much was ur cobra? im considering one for christmas. cheapest i can find in england is £250

[6ixty_6ix]

go on ebay m8, i saw sum for about £150-£200 ;)

[Cesium]

and 17" A Custom Proj. Crash


how's that for riding on? or do you just use it for crashing?

[ADAM]

how much was ur cobra? im considering one for christmas. cheapest i can find in england is £250

www.electromusic.co.uk - £120 ish
www.gak.co.uk - £120 ish
Live Music Shop in Peterborough - £115

Thats less than half what you've found!!!

:)

(brand new too....not second hand!)

[DominicHoward]

how's that for riding on? or do you just use it for crashing?

Crashing, it wouldnt be that good for riding IMO. I use my 18" Proj. for crashing and it's great.


And, I got my Iron Cobra from www.newcastledrum.co.uk for £119, next day delivery (that costs though, about a fiver)

[the pearl guy]

sorry i forgot to mention i was looking for a double pedal! i want to bring some of my thrash metal dreams to life :D
i may well go for eliminators though if i do decide to get a double pedal, cos there cheaper and match my kit....

[6ixty_6ix]

Iron Cobra (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38097&item=3760749691&rd=1)

sorry m8, all i cud find

[JamesT]

take alook at this thread http://209.25.203.234/showthread.php?t=60291

that tells you all you need to know about pedals, I have both the Elim and the IC i prefer the Elim more it feels lighter on the foot and with the interchangable Cams you can really get any feel you want

[6ixty_6ix]

cool sum good info ther, do Tama hav a forum like that?

[JamesT]

No only Pearl really.. there are a few others..

Drumrock.com
MikeDolbear.com
etc but Pearls is the best even if you dont play have any of their gear then there will be somthing on there for you

[GooseJuice]

PRESENT EQUIPMENT-
Tama Starclassic Maple Kit:
(widthxdepth")
22x16" Bass Drum
12x10" Tom
14x14" Floor Tom
16x16" Floor Tom

Snare Drums:
(widthxdepth")
14x6.5" Ludwig Supraphonic
14x5.5" Tama Starclassic Maple

Tama Hardware:
Tama Roadpro Stands
Tama Iron Cobra Powerglide Bass Drum Pedal
Tama Iron Cobra Veloglide Hi-Hat Stand

Zildjian cymbals:
(diameter",) from right to left:
11" Oriental Trash Splash
13" K Mastersound Hi-Hats
8" EFX (now discontinued)
20" Oriental Crash of Doom
18" K Medium-Thin Dark Crash
22" K Custom Ride
19" K Medium-Thin Dark Crash
18" Oriental Classic China

Heads:
Live-
Tom Batter: Remo Clear Ambassador
Tom Resonant: Remo Clear Diplomat
Snare Batter: Coated Ambassador
Snare Reso: Remo SnareSide Ambassador
Bass Batter: Remo Powerstroke III
Bass Reso: Tama Stock
Recording-
Tom Batter: Remo Coated Ambassador
Tom Resonant: Remo Clear Diplomat
Snare Batter: Remo Controlled Sound (w/ grey dot)
Snare Reso: Remo SnareSide Ambassador
Bass Batter: Remo Clear Powerstroke III
Bass Reso: Tama Stock

Sticks:
Zildjian Dennis Chambers Signature

[6ixty_6ix]

wow very nice kit, any pictures?

[DominicHoward]

PRESENT EQUIPMENT-
Tama Starclassic Maple Kit:
(widthxdepth")
22x16" Bass Drum
12x10" Tom
14x14" Floor Tom
16x16" Floor Tom

Snare Drums:
(widthxdepth")
14x6.5" Ludwig Supraphonic
14x5.5" Tama Starclassic Maple

Tama Hardware:
Tama Roadpro Stands
Tama Iron Cobra Powerglide Bass Drum Pedal
Tama Iron Cobra Veloglide Hi-Hat Stand

Zildjian cymbals:
(diameter",) from right to left:
11" Oriental Trash Splash
13" K Mastersound Hi-Hats
8" EFX (now discontinued)
20" Oriental Crash of Doom
18" K Medium-Thin Dark Crash
22" K Custom Ride
19" K Medium-Thin Dark Crash
18" Oriental Classic China

Heads:
Live-
Tom Batter: Remo Clear Ambassador
Tom Resonant: Remo Clear Diplomat
Snare Batter: Coated Ambassador
Snare Reso: Remo SnareSide Ambassador
Bass Batter: Remo Powerstroke III
Bass Reso: Tama Stock
Recording-
Tom Batter: Remo Coated Ambassador
Tom Resonant: Remo Clear Diplomat
Snare Batter: Remo Controlled Sound (w/ grey dot)
Snare Reso: Remo SnareSide Ambassador
Bass Batter: Remo Clear Powerstroke III
Bass Reso: Tama Stock

Sticks:
Zildjian Dennis Chambers Signature

Hahahaha trying to be Dom! By the way, don't patronise us with you (widthxdiameter) shit, like we don't know.ffs

[Farmer Ted]

Hahahaha trying to be Dom! By the way, don't patronise us with you (widthxdiameter) shit, like we don't know.ffs


This is coming from the loser who used "Dominic Howard" as his username.

[ADAM]

isn't goosejuice just saying what kit dom uses? :confused:

...trying to be helpful and you slag him off! :rolleyes:

...or I may be wrong....... :D

[no3chris]

yea you could be right,.. after all ti is DOMS drum thread haha, wont you feel silly if he is

[DominicHoward]

No I won't feel silly cause he didn't exactly say, 'This is Dom's setup' or anything, so I'm quite right to think it was his own setup.

And to Farmer Ted: So because my name is DominicHoward, that means I'm trying to be Dom does it? :rolleyes: christ.

[DominicHoward]

Looking at that list again, it's pretty obvious it's Dom's kit.

[the pearl guy]

either that or someone is very rich and has a rather unfortunate dom obsession. if not they have an awesome kit.

[JamesT]

If it is just dom's specs then there is alot wrong

[DominicHoward]

If it is just dom's specs then there is alot wrong

Oh please, enlighten us

[ADAM]

Oh please, enlighten us

:LOL:

Lol!

[GooseJuice]

That's his present kit

Thought you'd all like to know what it was seeing as someone asked what it was and this thread is about his drums

P.S. No I'm not trying / pretending to be him.

[JamesT]

Drums
Maple Starclisic in Chrome with Black h/w
12x9 tom
14x14 floor
16x16 floor
22x18 bass

Snare maple Maple starclasic 14x 6 1/2 (last tour ludwig blask Beauty 14x6 1/2

Cymbals
Live Crash of Doom
A custom cymbals sizes differ for shoes, normaly 17/19 or 18/19
11" trash splash
8" A splash
14 K hats
22K ride
18" China Trash

heads
toms Remo Emp's top ambasadors bottom
Snare CS batter on starclassin
Aquarain HE on BB
PS3 on kick

that will do for now.. you cant really list stuff fdor the studio as things change from song to song

PS i know the above as i have seen the kit in person

[the pearl guy]

thats really cool, are you like friend/tech with the band?

[DominicHoward]

Drums
Maple Starclisic in Chrome with Black h/w
12x9 tom
14x14 floor
16x16 floor
22x18 bass

Snare maple Maple starclasic 14x 6 1/2 (last tour ludwig blask Beauty 14x6 1/2

Cymbals
Live Crash of Doom
A custom cymbals sizes differ for shoes, normaly 17/19 or 18/19
11" trash splash
8" A splash
14 K hats
22K ride
18" China Trash

heads
toms Remo Emp's top ambasadors bottom
Snare CS batter on starclassin
Aquarain HE on BB
PS3 on kick

that will do for now.. you cant really list stuff fdor the studio as things change from song to song

PS i know the above as i have seen the kit in person

Well you've got most of that wrong

[JamesT]

why

[DominicHoward]

why

For a start he uses K crashes now instead of A custom projections and it's a 22" K custom ride, not just regular.

[6ixty_6ix]

actually he doesn't use K crashes, at M.E.N he used A custom's, he uses K crashes when recording. And he does change his ride normally, K custom, K, K dry ride...

[JamesT]

Thanks for that TIRO

I saw the kit twice and both times he was using A customs. as to the ride i couldnt ID it i know it was a K or K custom 22" it had been cleaned so much that the logo's had worn off.

As to how i saw it,
I work for a company that provides Logistics, Security and all sorts of other things for tours, I dont actualy work on the muse tour :'(

But on a day of i got chance to just tag along and how could i turn that down

[JamesT]

Looking at some photo's of his kit got some gigs Hes using a 14x12 floor and a 16x14 floor

http://www.microcuts.net/gallery/dataz/media/59/Dom_02_-_Znith_de_Toulouse_-_March_22_2004.jpg

cant argue with that

[the pearl guy]

i suppose he may well use different crashes for different things, at rock am ring he was riding a k crash during hysteria i think it was. it doesnt really matter too much anyways. does anyone know of a place that can beat £117 for a k 14" mini china? that silver sc is gorgeous.

[satan]

Although his drum setup may not have changed much since hullabaloo, his cymbal setup certainly has!

He now uses K Dark Crashes instead of the A Customs (Hullabaloo)
He uses K Hi-Hats instead of the A Customs (Hullabaloo)
He has an extra crash, it's oriental, that's all I know.
It's a 22" K Custom ride he uses, not a 20".

And yes, it's a Rhythmtech Crasher that he uses in both Megalomania (Hullabaloo) and live and recorded versions of TIRO.

And you call yourselves Dom fans...


He uses the rythm tech crasher on apocalypse please too :)

[satan]

Ok, like, I really want to learn how to play the drums, and have been reading a lot of material on the net, and following threads and such. how do you guys recommend someone go about learning how to play the drums? i.e. where would you start?

[the pearl guy]

personally i think its better to have lessons somehwere that has there own kit, to see if u want to stick with it.preferably someone working from home as a professional teacher or through your school. the latter is better cos u get our of lesons then... then after a few months look into buying a kit, something like a pearl forum or a second hand export ex or even elx. i find that a mix of being tought the technical side of drumming and working out all my own songs and material in my own time makes for a pretty balanced way of approaching it. it was four years of lessons before i got my own kit and i found that that really spurred my playin on rather that hindering it becuase i was so eager to play that whenever i got the chance i worked hard to make the most of my time. still its very much a personal thing and many musicians not just drummers have learn by ear and trial and error and have become very accomplished in there field of expertise. it does not make you any less of a musician if u decided to take the tought route or just by ear, as many many people may make u feel. all i can say is just take it easy and have fun, and well done for picking the nosiest and most annoying to move around instrument...

[satan]

personally i think its better to have lessons somehwere that has there own kit, to see if u want to stick with it.preferably someone working from home as a professional teacher or through your school. the latter is better cos u get our of lesons then... then after a few months look into buying a kit, something like a pearl forum or a second hand export ex or even elx. i find that a mix of being tought the technical side of drumming and working out all my own songs and material in my own time makes for a pretty balanced way of approaching it. it was four years of lessons before i got my own kit and i found that that really spurred my playin on rather that hindering it becuase i was so eager to play that whenever i got the chance i worked hard to make the most of my time. still its very much a personal thing and many musicians not just drummers have learn by ear and trial and error and have become very accomplished in there field of expertise. it does not make you any less of a musician if u decided to take the tought route or just by ear, as many many people may make u feel. all i can say is just take it easy and have fun, and well done for picking the nosiest and most annoying to move around instrument...

Heheh, well, the thing is I'm 23 and well out of school. I looked at my college and they don't offer any precussion lessons or anything. So I guess I would have to go to a shop or studio or something. I haven't had the money yet to invest in lessons, so I've been trying to teach myself basic things by ear. I want to get a pair of drum sticks and maybe a practice pad or something so I have something bang on besides furniture.

I sound really good with chopsticks, china, and silverware. :)

Thanks for the advice though. I will look into finding someone who teaches and has their own kit, etc, as you recommended.

[JamesT]

Go and Get some Sticks any top brand. (vic firth, promark, Valter, Regal tip) and a practice pad.. its not alot of fun but it makes you better. then go and get some lessons if your in the UK they go for round £10 - £15 an hour.. dont buy a kit to start with as you mite no like drumming.

after a while if you want to keep going ket a kit.. there are 1000's out there keep away from cheep ones they may save you money to start with but it will break and you'll out grow it fast.

Look at Pearls Exports, Tama's Rockstars, or Premiars Artist's

need any help just e-mail me im on a tour now so i only have my MSN e-mail really. TigerADV@hotmail.com

[the pearl guy]

Heheh, well, the thing is I'm 23 and well out of school. I looked at my college and they don't offer any precussion lessons or anything. So I guess I would have to go to a shop or studio or something. I haven't had the money yet to invest in lessons, so I've been trying to teach myself basic things by ear. I want to get a pair of drum sticks and maybe a practice pad or something so I have something bang on besides furniture.

I sound really good with chopsticks, china, and silverware. :)

Thanks for the advice though. I will look into finding someone who teaches and has their own kit, etc, as you recommended.

haha sorry about that i didnt check to see how old u were, i must have sounded annoyingly patronising. that advice about pads is all good. my techers and parents and friends have all gone mad cos of my constant tappin with anything i can find...hehe.

[6ixty_6ix]

i'm exactly the same, been playing for 3 years now without a lesson at all. I suggest buying a crap kit like stagg or percussion plus and advance of that building your kit up gradually.

And buy a metranome!

[Nav]

any of you guys know where i could buy tama starclasic with the same set up as dom, maybe less cymbals, but bassically the same drum wise?? And for how much?
Cheers, Andy

[DominicHoward]

any of you guys know where i could buy tama starclasic with the same set up as dom, maybe less cymbals, but bassically the same drum wise?? And for how much?
Cheers, Andy

It's gonna cost you a fair bit as his set up doesnt come as a standard 'pack' if you like.

Try Newcastle Drum Centre (www.newcastledrum.co.uk), they're pretty decent with prices, and get a quote.

[the pearl guy]

try www.electromusic.co.uk there good, but i think that they havent got there starclassic page up and running yet. they are good if u want extras like add on toms.
also try www.poolepercussion.com, www.adcdrums.co.uk. try ur local tama dealer as well, they might be able to beat the price you ar quoted on the internet.

[6ixty_6ix]

How much do those Ludwig "Black Beauty's" cost dom uses? cheers

[|Cypher|]

He uses the rythm tech crasher on apocalypse please too :)

Is that what it is called? I thought was just some crazy custom crash he bought from japan?

[GooseJuice]

How much do those Ludwig "Black Beauty's" cost dom uses? cheers


£300-450 depending on size and store

[the pearl guy]

the rythm tech crasher is like for pieces of bent metal, restin gon top of each other over a metal base.
here (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.marcandella.ch/WG8/RhythmTech/MetalPercussion/Crasher.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.marcandella.ch/WG8/RhythmTech/MetalPercussion/H_MetalPercussion.htm&h=185&w=300&sz=16&tbnid=8juVCzB_FdkJ:&tbnh=68&tbnw=110&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drhythm%2Btech%2Bcrasher%26hl%3Den%26l r%3D%26safe%3Doff)
here we go tis the first thingy.
i hbave one to sell if anyone wants one, bargin price of £20 with free p&p.

[6ixty_6ix]

the rythm tech crasher is like for pieces of bent metal, restin gon top of each other over a metal base.
here (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.marcandella.ch/WG8/RhythmTech/MetalPercussion/Crasher.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.marcandella.ch/WG8/RhythmTech/MetalPercussion/H_MetalPercussion.htm&h=185&w=300&sz=16&tbnid=8juVCzB_FdkJ:&tbnh=68&tbnw=110&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drhythm%2Btech%2Bcrasher%26hl%3Den%26l r%3D%26safe%3Doff)
here we go tis the first thingy.
i hbave one to sell if anyone wants one, bargin price of £20 with free p&p.

Make it £15 and you got a deal! why don't you like it?

[Aqudan]

possibly a strange question, but how to the crasher things attach to a kit? Do they have there own built in thing or do you need a seperate attachment?

[JamesT]

TAMA starclassic maples dont come in packs only the birtch does, a shop may make a pack but TAMA does not supply them as such for a kit like dom, (you cant get the same colour as him, TAMA no do the old blue sparkle kit but not the chrome or black HW,) would set you back about £1800 with no stands or cymbals,

Ludwig Black Beautys 14 x 61/2 go for around £450 but they come on ebay alot. Look at the Ludwig 400's they sound much better IMO and go for about £320

Of your on a budget look ar the Ludwig 300 @ about £99 its about the same as the 400 but made in china with a few lower grade parts, Or there is the Pearl Chad smith @ £150 that sounds just like a 400,
Dom is now using a Starclassic Maple in 14x 61/2

A ribon crasher attaches to any cowbell holder or a cymbal stand top (with no cymbal on) it has an eye bold like you see on a cowbell

[DominicHoward]

TAMA starclassic maples dont come in packs only the birtch does, a shop may make a pack but TAMA does not supply them as such for a kit like dom, (you cant get the same colour as him, TAMA no do the old blue sparkle kit but not the chrome or black HW,) would set you back about £1800 with no stands or cymbals,

Ludwig Black Beautys 14 x 61/2 go for around £450 but they come on ebay alot. Look at the Ludwig 400's they sound much better IMO and go for about £320

Of your on a budget look ar the Ludwig 300 @ about £99 its about the same as the 400 but made in china with a few lower grade parts, Or there is the Pearl Chad smith @ £150 that sounds just like a 400,
Dom is now using a Starclassic Maple in 14x 61/2

A ribon crasher attaches to any cowbell holder or a cymbal stand top (with no cymbal on) it has an eye bold like you see on a cowbell

Rhythm Crasher*, although I think I've heard it called a ribbon crasher before.

[GooseJuice]

Stores buy in starclassic maples individually and sell them as kits.
E.G.: They order a bass and couple toms and sell them as 'a kit.'

You can custom order anything on the starclassic birch and maple lines but in some cases it may take upto 6 months for when the store phones them up for you and when you actually recieve it
Custom order includes:
tom sizes 8x7" through to 24x18",
undrilled birch bass drum,
20 or so finishes in laquer or 3 choices in wrap,
sound focus rings,
gold AND black hoops (though if you want black, the drum store will say it's not available...but it is)
and klots more look on tama.com

i know lots about starclassic kits becuase i'm getting one soon (yay!) and my drum teacher is endorsed by them so i'm constantly been given all this information

P.S. If you're thinking of buying a tama kit wait until 2005: something new and special is coming out!! (i can't say much more as it's classified info) :p

[DominicHoward]

Stores buy in starclassic maples individually and sell them as kits.
E.G.: They order a bass and couple toms and sell them as 'a kit.'

You can custom order anything on the starclassic birch and maple lines but in some cases it may take upto 6 months for when the store phones them up for you and when you actually recieve it
Custom order includes:
tom sizes 8x7" through to 24x18",
undrilled birch bass drum,
20 or so finishes in laquer or 3 choices in wrap,
sound focus rings,
gold AND black hoops (though if you want black, the drum store will say it's not available...but it is)
and klots more look on tama.com

i know lots about starclassic kits becuase i'm getting one soon (yay!) and my drum teacher is endorsed by them so i'm constantly been given all this information

P.S. If you're thinking of buying a tama kit wait until 2005: something new and special is coming out!! (i can't say much more as it's classified info) :p

2 things,

1. Who is your drum tutor?
2. Well why the hell do you know if it's classified? Are they putting the Exotix out for general release or something?

[Aqudan]

P.S. If you're thinking of buying a tama kit wait until 2005: something new and special is coming out!! (i can't say much more as it's classified info) :p

i was gonna order mine next week, is it something i'm really gonna want or are you just over hyping ?

[6ixty_6ix]

i've heard there changing the font in tama :indiff:

[GooseJuice]

1. Who is your drum tutor?
2. Well why the hell do you know if it's classified? Are they putting the Exotix out for general release or something?

1. www.andyedwardsmusic.com for more info
2. not exotix, a completely new line

i was gonna order mine next week, is it something i'm really gonna want or are you just over hyping ?

just wait until after the NAMM winter show.
by all means order a starclassic they're amazing, but from what i've been told, this new line is orgasmic.

[the pearl guy]

i've heard there changing the font in tama :indiff:

brilliant.

[JamesT]

Alot of stuff was leaked at NAMM, I talked to some guys their and got the low down. its nuthing really special, nuthing that other companys dont offer already at better quality and prices,

Its actualy called a ribbon crasher, a company "Rythem tech" calls their a rythem crasher and this name has stuck, kind of like how we all call personaly tape players "walkmans" but really only Sony ones are.

Man Andy Edwards teaches you, I had lessons from him about 6 years ago he was a good drummer but a lame teacher i hated the guy, so i moved to the guy who gave him lessons :p much nicer guy and better player and teacher

[Aqudan]

was talking to shop people today, its just going to be lots of little things, the only reason you might want to wait is because theres probably going to be new colours and the prices may possibly go down.
but then again they might also go up . .

[GooseJuice]

tama superstar


cough

[DominicHoward]

Dont Give The Game Away :o

[DominicHoward]

no caps? ridiculous

[6ixty_6ix]

what a crap name for a series

[the pearl guy]

oh well whatever its called i know i still wont be able to afford one!

[Nav]

Gonna be getting a new kit, same sizes as doms kit, but plus one top tom cause its cheaper that way...strange...
Cost me about a grand for the kit and cymbals and hardware etc, getting it in rockstar custom, not starclassic though, cause i cant afford the starclassic yet, cant wait gonna be cool.

[6ixty_6ix]

How does Dom attach his splashes? is there 2 connecting rods on his crash?

[no3chris]

think so

[GooseJuice]

How does Dom attach his splashes? is there 2 connecting rods on his crash?

boom stand holding up a splash, and a multi clamp attached to the standwith a short boom arm attached to the multi clamp holding up the other.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/DUCK_/hfhfhf.jpg

[6ixty_6ix]

ahhhhh right i see, i'm hopin to get some splashes for xmas, altogether costing £82, 2 stagg splashes, boom stand and conecting rod, what are those brushes he uese? hot rods??

[the pearl guy]

my gf jusy got me a cowbell for christmas and i was wondering, what do you think will be the easiest way of attatching it? i want to attatch it to my 12" mounted tom stand that is fixed into my bass drum but im not to sure about how to go about it. im thinking clamp onto a cowbell holder but cos they use different attatchments as opposed to cymbals i have nop idea what im doing.
i was thinking about getting a stagg splash after christmas, they any good?
cheers
andrew

[the pearl guy]

oh yeah and what is this?

http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/153045/watis.JPG

is it some kind of jobby that means the drum is always set to that height each time? i know theres a word for that but i cant remember it. thats doms second floor tom in the pic btw.

[DominicHoward]

oh yeah and what is this?

http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/153045/watis.JPG

is it some kind of jobby that means the drum is always set to that height each time? i know theres a word for that but i cant remember it. thats doms second floor tom in the pic btw.

memory lock tbh

[the pearl guy]

ah yeah thats the one memory locks.
cheers bud.

[no3chris]

wot do they do :S

[the pearl guy]

the make sure all your gear like toms n cymbals are all set at the same heigh and positions each time u set it up again.
i think...
theres probably a much more technical way of explaining that.

[GooseJuice]

That memory lock look ugly, it takes up space and make your drums and stands look naff, what I do is just put a permanent marker where the tom or floor tom leg height goes, and it's unviewable.
And when you want to reposition / re move something, white spirit takes it off.

Tadaa.

[DominicHoward]

I'd prefer to use a memory lock tbh.

Where can you buy them separately, might get a few in after xmas

[GooseJuice]

I've never seen that sort of memory lock before, it must be some special Tama one?

You can get normal little ones anywhere really, just make sure it fits onto the stand / clamp / whatever. All the big companies have them, DW, Pearl, etc, can't go wrong with a named brand.

[6ixty_6ix]

what are hot rods?

[the pearl guy]

what are hot rods?

ta daa (http://www.wwbw.com/Promark-Hot-Rods-i17011.music)

"for when brushes are to quiet and sticks are to loud"
there made up of small rods of wood taped together, there quieter than normal sticks.

[GooseJuice]

^^^^^^^^ ha, good safeways stick holder

i used to gaffa tape a pringles can to my hi hat stand for a stick holder. :happy:

[the pearl guy]

^^^^^^^^ ha, good safeways stick holder

i used to gaffa tape a pringles can to my hi hat stand for a stick holder. :happy:

hahaha cheers, everyone likes to make fun of that!
i got a brand spanking new stick bag for crimbo though, as well as a dixon stick holder clamply type thing that holds 2 pairs of sticks so i feel its the end of an era for the ol' safeways bag.

pringles ay...thats a new one!
what kit do you play goosejuice?

[6ixty_6ix]

jus bought some hot rods btw dead star, they sound really really nice :D

[GooseJuice]

hahaha cheers, everyone likes to make fun of that!
i got a brand spanking new stick bag for crimbo though, as well as a dixon stick holder clamply type thing that holds 2 pairs of sticks so i feel its the end of an era for the ol' safeways bag.

pringles ay...thats a new one!
what kit do you play goosejuice?


I've got the maple dw pacific in white onyx sizes 22 10 12 14 16 and 14 snare

Cymbals are 14" a custom mastersounds (selling soon though to get some 13" k's) 17" and 19" a custom crashes, and 21" k heavy ride, xmas money will bring in a 18" avedis china high and a couple splashes

if you've got msn add me, always good to talk to fellow drummers: sameoldmatt@hotmail.com

[the pearl guy]

sound nice mr juice. how much you selling those hats for? im in dire need of cymbalige (i know that aint a word, ive had a little to drink :p )
i just payed my music store some hideous amount to get all my toms with g1 and g2's and to sort my snare out as well. i need something cheapish to sound good cos i am a biot sort of cash now.
what a silly rambling post......

[DominicHoward]

how much are you selling the projections for. i might just buy them :D

sorry deadstar ;)

[the pearl guy]

eh, doesnt matter, however cheap they might be i know that i still have no chance of being able to buy them. im skint and my cheques from christmas havent even cashed yet...

[GooseJuice]

I only got em in june so i'll aim high and say £150 but knowing my luck I'll get weasled down to £120, but no less! :indiff:

[the pearl guy]

exactly...no chance of raising that at all! i only hve £80 which is going to drums heads n new years eve.
ill just go to the music store now and oogle over the k custom special dry ride.
ho hum

[GooseJuice]

what heads you getting? Get some Aquarian's!

first time i've had them and they're killer, specially the superkick on the bass.

for 2 ply over 1 ply check out double thins over classic clear
or for 1 ply over 7.5 ply check out classic clear over hi-frequency

thats what i recommend for toms

[the pearl guy]

going for the g1 on the reso and g2 on the batter, or maybye ambassador on the reso and emporer on the batter but the shop near me is very anti remo so i will probably go for the evans. i would get some aquarians but nowhere near where i live stocks them. i though of getting some aquarians but nowhere near where i live stocks them and i dont like buying drum things on the internet, i like to try them out first.
i may go for some next time i look for heads. i need to upgrade my cymbals first before i look for heads again.
updated pics in my sig btw.

[6ixty_6ix]

very nice kit mr.Deadstar

[the pearl guy]

cheers
its my baby, i love it to bits. its getting g1's and g2's on monday.

[6ixty_6ix]

g1s?

[the pearl guy]

theyre a signle ply version of the g2. similar to the remo ambassador.
i think that what u meant by the question mark...sorry if it wasnt

[6ixty_6ix]

i see what type of cymbals are you planning to purchase?

[the pearl guy]

k custom hats, k custom special dry ride, then some sabian aax crashes, and an aaxplosion crash too, and a k mini china. i just need tof ind that briefcase filled with hundreds of £50 notes....

[GooseJuice]

Very nice choices of the hats and ride

May I ask why you're getting sabian crashes with zildjian hats and ride? Seems odd to me, becuase I'm sad, I have to everything of the same company.

[DominicHoward]

Very nice choices of the hats and ride

May I ask why you're getting sabian crashes with zildjian hats and ride? Seems odd to me, becuase I'm sad, I have to everything of the same company.

:) so do i

[the pearl guy]

i played a kit that had some a customs on it and i really dislikes them...i dunno why. i might go all k and get some k crashes as well, but there are some really nice aax crashes in my local shop, and some nice hhx ones too. plus i always think its cool to mix and match.
i want that ride more than anything, its so so so nice. it took me about 3 seconds of the bloke hitting it before i turned around and though i want one of those, more than anything. my main concern is getting my drums sounding good before i worry about cymbals, i can always borrow cymbals from my friends dad whos band just never ever uses them. theyre pretty sweet as well.

[ADAM]

I bought some new pinstripes for christmas and i wanted to get them to sound just right. I have 12, 13 + 16" toms.

Does anyone know what tune each head should be tuned to to make them sound really nice.

Is there a recording that I could buy/download where each skin (By this i mean batter head AND resonant head) is being struck so that i can copy it and make mine sound cool??!!!?

If not...is there any advice on how to tune them just right?

I know the techniques I just need to know the sound they should make to contrast nicely with one another.

Ta!

:)

[GooseJuice]

^^^ If you record anything it ends up sounding different to what the drums sound like in person.

What some people do is tune to intervals, 4ths I think, example: hum the first part of "Here comes the bride"...but youve only got 3 toms so...the first or last 3 hums I guess.

What I do though is just tune them to what sounds best to you, their 'sweet spot' as its normally known as.

If possible, definately if you plan on gigging with the kit, tune them in a big venue, not your room. Becuase they'll sound horrible when you play them live if youve tuned them in your room.

You've got pinstripes so theyll eliminate any overtones that most people dont like. But dont add anything else to them, or you may aswell be hitting a dead cardboard box or something.

Spend more time tuning the bottom / resonant / ones you dont hit side of the drum, becuase thats what you actually hear more of, not the top / batter / side you do hit.

It'll take hours to achieve good results, and its frustrating the first... 50 or so times you tune them, but after that youll learn to love tuning and itll be an :rolleyes: orgasmic experience

[GooseJuice]

P.S. this may be of some use:

"prof. sound's drum tuning bible"

http://home.earthlink.net/~prof.sound/

[ADAM]

cheers, i just wandered if there was a site where you click a link "If you want your drums to sound like this..." (a recording of nicely tuned drums plays) "...then tune your heads to this..." (a recording of each drum head being struck is played).

That way, because you're copying an already tried and tested tuned drum, your drums will sound that way.

If that doesn't exist, would it be worth someone making one?!?!?! (I don't know how to!)

....It'll be really popular for drummers wanting to tune!!!!! :) :)

[6ixty_6ix]

it'd take hours and hours and hours and hours... but part from that yeh wud be good

[Nav]

Gonna be ordering my new kit in the next week or so, tama rockstar custom, with a extra floor tom, gonna have the same sizes as doms kit, on everything except the extra tom tom, comes with 5 sabien cymbals to, and hardware, then i'm gonna spend £200 on it, maybe getting new cymbals.

[6ixty_6ix]

very nice nav_muse, why does everyone go for the rockstar?

[Dramatic Hammer]

It's the cheapest..... :rolleyes:

[6ixty_6ix]

lol spose so :LOL:

[Nav]

Nar, the stagestar and swingstar are cheaper, its cause the rockstars the one down from starclassic, and has the same fitting as the starclassic and sounds cool.

[the pearl guy]

sounds good, what colour are you gonna get?
the only problem i have with the rockstars and the starclassics is that i this the startcast mounting system is ugly, but then againt thats just my personal opinion. i hate dw lugs as well, i think theyre ugly too...

[Nav]

not sure yet, i had a look at the colours last night, saw a couple i liked, but i'll decide some time this week.

[6ixty_6ix]

is it true dom got his starclassic customly made chrome?

[JamesT]

hay hay im back :cool: been doing session work over xmas so no time to post anyway.

Yes Dom does get his kit custom made. TAMA do this only for endorsors same with black and gold h/w

The pic posted earlyer "asking what is this?" memory lock was part right, it was a floor tom leg bracket. there was a memory lock attached to it. these make it so you get the same set up each night.

and £150 for a 2nd had A cust projection crash. you must be joking you can get a 18" new for that much. anyway Sabian AAXplosions sound much better. and are cheeper

[the pearl guy]

good to see you again mr T (hehe how cool did that sound... :rolleyes: ) where what the thing about an a custom crash? do you have any more pics of your custom drums?

[GooseJuice]

sounds good, what colour are you gonna get?
the only problem i have with the rockstars and the starclassics is that i this the startcast mounting system is ugly, but then againt thats just my personal opinion. i hate dw lugs as well, i think theyre ugly too...


Better than a digusting Pearl cheapey design L arm :LOL: They're so old now, get with the times Pearl.

[GooseJuice]

TAMA do this only for endorsors same with black and gold h/w

Not necessarily, you can custom order them, they just dont advertise this on their site. You can also custom order performer bass drums undrilled or custom order a maple basses drilled (not that anybody would want to) Or find yourself a Tama endorsee and order the kit through them ;)

anyway Sabian AAXplosions sound much better.

Debatable

and are cheeper

Undebateable :stunned:

[DominicHoward]

The pic posted earlyer "asking what is this?" memory lock was part right, it was a floor tom leg bracket. there was a memory lock attached to it. these make it so you get the same set up each night.


so it's a memory lock then

[the pearl guy]

Better than a digusting Pearl cheapey design L arm :LOL: They're so old now, get with the times Pearl.

sod off :p

[the pearl guy]

just got a weatherking ambassador, and and an ebans snare side hazy 300 for my snare...
orgasmic. and they also conned me into getting one of those specialy desogned evans eq muffling thingys. im a right muppet...

[DominicHoward]

you suuuure are :)

[6ixty_6ix]

Grab yourself a bargain K ride ebay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10174&item=3774010878&rd=1)

[the pearl guy]

love to, but im totally skint. some new heads, a boom n clamp and a stagg splash and little britain dvds have just cleaned my bank account out.

[Nav]

hey, my drum teacher mentioned something about a new muse play along drum book, he said he's gonna get back to me with prices etc, once i find how much they are, and a website etc i'll post it up here for everyone.

[GooseJuice]

^^^^ safeee

that k ride is lovelyyy, im gonna get me a massive cymbal collection down the years, you can never have too many cymbals. speaking of which i want a brilliant finish k or k custom, i only have 1 k ride at the mo (sob sob, woe is me)

[JamesT]

I'll get some more pics of it this weekend for you. im doing some gig's as a warm up for a tour. still undecided what cymbals to take with me :confused:

at the mo my set up is

Paiste Sound Formula
13" med hats
20" power ride

Sabian AAX 10" splash

Zildjian Z custioms 17"&18" med crashes Or A custom 18"&19" projections
18",20" or 22" china

and a old Zildjian cymbal i have no idea what it is other than its 20" its about med to thin in weight and a bit batterd making it sound like a Crash of Doom but darker and more trashy. all i can think of is that its a K of some kind thats been abused.

Anyway
I dont want to take my Paistes on the road and you cant buy them anymore so i need replacements for them and i need another splash thats more high pitched,
Im going to Zildjian on Thursday with my tech and Sound tech to look at cymbals and talk about endorsments.



Whats wrong with pearls L arms? they are the most secure tome arm on the market the Ball mounted arms can move me freely but in turn dont offer the same stability in holding the tom in place, hence alot of people with custom kits including me use Pearl tom arms, My tech uses the lower budget ones on mine when we tour as even if it comes loose during a show the gears hold it in place

[JamesT]

Tama does not do custom orders you can phone them and ask i did. they do do a virgin bass on the SCP put it will be about a 6 month wait, so i was told,

the Scast mounts look the same as any other RIM style mount but dont work the same, they attch the the rim not the lug or rention rod and dont grip one firm enough for my liking they wobble lick crazy

[GooseJuice]

bump


(keeping the thread aliveeeeeeeee)

[the pearl guy]

<thinks of something drummy to say....>

paradiddle.

in other new i ported my bass drum head, and installed my silly evans muffleing device, it sound rather awesome.

[JamesT]

Nice one "pearl guy", i dont dampen mine at all the only thing thats in there is very smallbit of pillow padding that dont touch any of the heads, its just for the shure Beta 91 to sit on,

as for my trip to Zildjian, yes im now a Zildjian Endorser, just need to figer out what cymbals i want now. i have 4 diffrent tours already booked for this year and a recording session all with very diffrent needs, its hard to think what would suit each one. I would like to keep the basic set up the same but just chang crash cymbals for each session but wellhave to see

[DominicHoward]

endorsee* :)

[the pearl guy]

mmm very nice mr t. how does it work? do you get all gear free, or do you have to pay a little bit, n can you have as many of em as you like or are there fixed quotas?

and has anyone seen the videos for the pearl reference series drums on the pearl website :eek: they seem pretty damned amazing really.

[DominicHoward]

pearl reference!? wtf sort of name is that :D

[the pearl guy]

yes i agree the name is naff, but according to pearl they have put more research one htis series of drum than any other drum, ever. they are calling in the most acoustically advanced drum in the world, they decided to stop making drums out of all maple, all birch etc, and to mix and match to suit the size and depth of each drum. the only 100% wood drum is the 12x12 maple drum, the rest are all a mix. go to www.pearldrum.com and watch the videos.

awesome.

[axxe chikka]

i thought he used tama starclassics ?
he does use tama starclassic i'm 100 % sure

[ADAM]

mmm very nice mr t. how does it work? do you get all gear free, or do you have to pay a little bit, n can you have as many of em as you like or are there fixed quotas?

...am interested too..... ;)

[the pearl guy]

he does use tama starclassic i'm 100 % sure

as are we! with the nice drool induicing black hardware....

[axxe chikka]

he does use tama starclassic i'm 100 % sure
My drumming brother posted that while logged in under my name. He was reading the first few pages, had no idea that the thread had gotten this long and replied to someones query. I got stuck into him when I saw it , cos it was like "Thanks, Captain Obvious!"

[the pearl guy]

lol siblings.....

[JamesT]

Endorsments can work in a number of diffrent ways most Companys have many diffrent leves of endorsment A being the top, the B, C, D, E etc..

Not alot of people get free gear. i bet Dom dosnt, only your TOP players get Unlimeted free stuff and the company makes the money back on the amout of idiots that buy stuff just coz their hero has it OCDP only has to artists who get free gear Adrian Young and Travis. not even Joey got free stuff in his years with them ( how many OCDP kits are their in the world that look just like Travis Barkes? )

Any way here is some info on endorsments and how to get one.

Discount. does what it says on the Tin. You get s discount on what ever product it is normaly there are a few diffrent levels like 25% 35% 50% 70%. at the lower end of this the company will not give you any exposure as your not worth it, like my endorsments with Jalapeno and Zildjian

the next level up is getting a free amout of gear up to a set amout each year and then a discount if you go over that here the company will expect you to be in their add's to promot the gear you use, they mite also ask you to do clinics and be at launches of new gear or at NAMM

next is the holy grail of endorsments FREE STUFF!!! only the best of the best get this

Getting an Endorsment

Unless the company aproches you as Zildjian did with me you will need to make the first contact a great idea is to phone them and talk to the AR (artist relations) team and see if its posible for you to get an endorsment of them. Then Send in a press pack,
Mine for Zildjian had
6 of the most reacent albums ive played on and the ones im most proud off also reviews of the CD's and info about them, where recorded who with was i in the band or just session etc.
For my 2 personal bands T-shirts CD's stickers photos of gigs and reviews, Adverts info on the bands. What they really want to know here is. Is their product going to be seen and heard my alot of people and are you a good rep for it.
Then i put in loads of other stuff like a demo of a new band im in. my plans for this comming year. and any other projects ive been in. etc Panto/musical pit work teaching clinics etc

Put all you can get in a nice folder with a friendly letter and send it off to them. and then wait and see.

if you get an endorsment you dont go to shops anymore you get your stuff straight from Zildjian or what ever. aslso if your giging and you cant get your stuff to you call them up and they will provide it for you!

im going to be in studio for 2 days but if anyone want to e-mail me.
TigerADV@hotmail.com and i'll get it on my laptop

[GooseJuice]

Yeah i got a question

How are them jalapeno drums? I was looking at them but how do you think they compare to big brand name top line kits?

[the pearl guy]

not even Joey got free stuff in his years with them

even joeys seen the light and come to pearl....

[JamesT]

I really love them, before i got them i looked at all the top kits from Tama. Pearl, Yamaha, OCDP, Mapex, Sonor DW and many others. but for me Jalapeno came out on top i played one at a gig where my old kit couldnt be taken to it, and the Tour manager hooked me up with one for the show, and i loved it and so did my tech and sound tech, we meed about with it in sound check and i took the heads of and tuned it up to see how easy it was (Very!) the next day i got on phone to Dave at Jalapeno and he was most helpful it talking to me about sizes and colours and all the other options on the kit. off set lugs RIM's he even made the vent in the bottom of the kick bigger so i could pass a cable through for the May mic system i use in there.

the kit was finished in 8 weeks and came to be the day befor its first gig, it looks and sounds awsome! the kick is by far the best part of the kit not needing any dampening to kit it soundidng full and powerfull,

the over all sound of the kit is very punchy and agressive the toms sing for as long as you want and far out shine anything that ive played.

at the mo ive using the kit in rock gigs in small ish venuse (500+ people) and in pop gigs of larger sizes 2000+ its been to every recording session ive done and everyone coments on how great they sound,

another thing is, its nice to be able to phone up the guy who made my drums by hand (even the shells unlike OCDP and others ) at any point and talk to him about them during the build. o and all of your drums will be made from the same tree so they match sonicaly

at the mo i have a 10 and 8 inch tom on order :D and me and dave are working on ideas for my snare

[DominicHoward]

poor tree.

[GooseJuice]

<3 trees

[6ixty_6ix]

i've been playing drums for 2 years now, not had one lesson in my life, do you think this will effect me later on? ty wez

[the pearl guy]

shouldnt too much really, maybye some small issues with posture or grip or something like that......eh. i dunno really...

[DominicHoward]

ive never had a lesson either, i'm not dead or crippled yet :)

[JamesT]

The only thing really will be in your basic playing, how you hold the stick, sit, etc. people who dont have lessons normaly used their arms way more than they should most things can be done from the rist, using the simple "molor" style of playing on your hats cuts down the work load by 1/2, i'd advise you just to go to a drum teacher for 2 lessons or so to make shure your doing everything right if not you WILL damage your body and it will begin to show in later life, befor tours i always go and see my drum teacher for a few lessons to get me back in shape as well as to see if i have picked up any bad habits and to help me drop them befor the tour starts

also ALWAYs wear ear plugs ew evidence show that it is only saft to listen to a snare drum for about a 1 min after thjat damage can be done and some can be for life

[6ixty_6ix]

yeh i got these huge headphones that drown sound owt big time, yeh i have found problems with playing my hi-hat i cnt really do it that fast, i even struggle with muscle museum, and i can't play the bass as fast as i want to my ankle kinda limps out but i'll keep practicin!!

[the pearl guy]

yeah i always practice with earplugs too, i had nasty incident involning a lot of band practise followed by a lot of tinnitus, it may still affect me in later life. i tell everyone than i play with, including guitarists to play with plugs on cos i think its just plain stupid not to. and some people say well ill just play quieter, well that doesnt get rid of the high end frequencies, which earplugs are designed to eliminate. i have some little in ear ones that have like 3 different levels of sound protection.

[GooseJuice]

i use earplaugs underneath headphones, that does the trick.

I recommend headphones, that way you can have personal cd player headphones underneath the isolation headphones, so you can hear the music clearly and barely the drums.

[the pearl guy]

yeah that sounds like a good idea. i though of that but theo nly bigish headphones are my dads from the 70's and theyre a bit on the dogy side.

[JamesT]

Live i uses Shure inear monitors, thay cost a bomb but they are graet, they cut out almost all out side noise to the point where i need my drums puting through them

[the pearl guy]

just looking at the sing for absolution cduk video that muse did a few months ago and it looks suspiciously like dom is using a pearl i hat stand, elimnator i would guess.

its sunday afternoon and im bored so...eh. i dont care that i rewound it about ten times to make sure

[DominicHoward]

why did you tell us that? :)

[6ixty_6ix]

he used a Ludwig kit once in Lowlands didnt he?

[the pearl guy]

why did you tell us that? :)

eh, well the thread is about doms drums. and its pearl so i feel the need to spread the goodness around :D

[DominicHoward]

true.

[6ixty_6ix]

i am in desperate need of a cymbal, my 16" A custom crash cracked whilst i was playing last night and i need a replacement pronto but the problem is i'm skint, my band has a gig coming up in 3 days and i need a cymbal under £50

i've been looking at paiste 101's and sabian solar, what should i do?

thanks :)

[GooseJuice]

You can't gig with sh!tty brass cymbals like that you'll get no projection or decent sound or nuffink. Shame on your for breaking the beloved a customs :p If I were you I would save up (if possible) and get the new A Custom Medium, or A Mediumsthose won't break, and are ten fifty milliontimes better than solar or 101.

[the pearl guy]

yeah dont go down the dark path of solar....i played a kit with some on....shudders...if u have another crash then you could just do without the second crash. or you can do what i did and find an old cymbal in your friend garage and say, can i have this and then he goe yeah i dunno where that came from...

the aax and hhx crashes are nice too. u may be able to get a wuhan or something, theyre meant to be okish (the chinas at least) and theyr pretty cheap too.

[6ixty_6ix]

you wouldnt belive my luck, we had the gig last nite and my mates dad was there with a brand new 17" K custom crash, i was over the moon! :D

[JamesT]

STAGG!!!!

These guys cymbals are great. the quality control on them isnt the best so you may need to try a few to find the best one but once you do i would put them up against any Sabian Paiste or Zildjian, and they are 1/2 the price!!!

beleve me in 2 years stagg cymbals will rock

[no3chris]

STAGG!!!!

These guys cymbals are great. the quality control on them isnt the best so you may need to try a few to find the best one but once you do i would put them up against any Sabian Paiste or Zildjian, and they are 1/2 the price!!!

beleve me in 2 years stagg cymbals will rock

ive got one word for you.. no


haha

[6ixty_6ix]

STAGG!!!!

These guys cymbals are great. the quality control on them isnt the best so you may need to try a few to find the best one but once you do i would put them up against any Sabian Paiste or Zildjian, and they are 1/2 the price!!!

beleve me in 2 years stagg cymbals will rock

basically.................................na

[the pearl guy]

the splashes are ok...id still go for some k's though

[the pearl guy]

need some help, its my birthday soon, and im thinking of upgraing some of my cymals becuase mine suck arse. i think i will have a buget of around £200, beuase my mum said she would get something for that price a few months ago. i was wondering what i should upgrade first? should i look into getting somehing like an aax or hhx pack (it would mean pushig the buget) or should i start with some new hats or a ride?
im looking at k's becuase they are my fav line of cymbal.
any help appreciated
cheers
andrew

[DominicHoward]

i'd go with some new hats. erm, with £200, i don't know. check out www.uk-cymbals.com (i think) for some brilliant prices.

[DominicHoward]

www.uk-cymbals.co.uk then

[the pearl guy]

yeah, i though about that but they do have the most gorgeous k custom special dry ride down at the local music shot and they said i could have it for 185, tis meant to be 250. im sorely tempted.

[DominicHoward]

what do you use more of, ride or hats?

[the pearl guy]

hard question, i try to use both equally normally. and to make maters worse my friends migth be selling a new telecaster so i might have a chance to buy that...
grrr