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penny_mccartney
28-08-2004, 08:05 AM
Okay...is anyone else here completely obsessed with this band?
wasted rock star
28-08-2004, 10:50 AM
:LOL: I don't know about obsessed, but I do like them. A lot.
ummagumma
28-08-2004, 11:07 AM
I do like them, but when you have a friend who idolises John Lydon it does get kinda anoying....
itstentotwelve
28-08-2004, 12:01 PM
i've heard soo much about them and the band, but i haven't heard anything by them. what song/s should i download? :rolleyes:
ummagumma
28-08-2004, 02:48 PM
pretty vacant!
also their rendition of My Way (the frank sinatra song)
LikelyLass
28-08-2004, 05:28 PM
I used to be a bit obsessed, but like all obsessions of mine its died down now.
However I do still love them :cool:
theimpressiveclergyman
28-08-2004, 07:06 PM
Not obsessed. But I do love Sid & Nancy... Gary Oldman rocks my socks. :happy:
...In a strictly non-sexual way, mind.... :unsure:
LikelyLass
28-08-2004, 08:38 PM
Not obsessed. But I do love Sid & Nancy... Gary Oldman rocks my socks. :happy:
...In a strictly non-sexual way, mind.... :unsure:
I love that movie!
Gary Oldman is the man :cool:
penny_mccartney
28-08-2004, 08:46 PM
i've heard soo much about them and the band, but i haven't heard anything by them. what song/s should i download? :rolleyes:
Download Bodies and Anarchy in the UK. No Feelings is pretty good too.
Meh...you can't really go wrong, all their songs are good. Although, I must say, EMI is one of my least favorites by them. Well, it was until I found out the story behind it, but....
Okay, I'm rambling. I'll shut up now.
And yes, Gary Oldman did a great job playing Sid. :cool:
Mar_Bellamy
28-08-2004, 08:58 PM
i love them!!! but in my opinon, sid & nancy is quite soft compared to what really happened in vicious' story...
Sid Vicious 1957-1979
Museski
29-08-2004, 12:31 AM
they're awesome , used to be obsessed by them too.
penny_mccartney
29-08-2004, 07:19 AM
i love them!!! but in my opinon, sid & nancy is quite soft compared to what really happened in vicious' story...
Sid Vicious 1957-1979
Hmm..not sure I know much of their story, other than what I "learned" from Sid and Nancy.
....care to elaborate a bit?
itstentotwelve
29-08-2004, 12:36 PM
Download Bodies and Anarchy in the UK. No Feelings is pretty good too.
Meh...you can't really go wrong, all their songs are good. Although, I must say, EMI is one of my least favorites by them. Well, it was until I found out the story behind it, but....
Okay, I'm rambling. I'll shut up now.
And yes, Gary Oldman did a great job playing Sid. :cool:
great thanks all
i saw a pic of gary oldman playing sid vicious- and damn, did he look good! :D
penny_mccartney
29-08-2004, 07:06 PM
Yes...for afar he did.
But if you thought he was hot, then you really have to see the real Sid.
penny_mccartney
29-08-2004, 07:07 PM
-smacks head-
Oh yeah. He's in my avatar pic. Duh.
It's a little unproportioned, but...it'll at least give you an idea! :D
itstentotwelve
30-08-2004, 11:51 AM
i know! the sid is quite delicious! :happy:
anyway, the song i d/l was 'bodies' bloody good! i must d/l more, or buy- what ever is easier. :LOL:
penny_mccartney
07-09-2004, 05:53 AM
i know! the sid is quite delicious! :happy:
anyway, the song i d/l was 'bodies' bloody good! i must d/l more, or buy- what ever is easier. :LOL:
Oh, buy.
Without a doubt. :LOL:
bjorn82
07-09-2004, 07:10 AM
Sex Pistols are great. They created the foundation for 'punk'. Isn't it sad to see someone like Sum 41 also calling themselves punk when the SP were punk? They are soooooooooooo different from each other. The pistols are the real stuff :D
Superfuzz_Bigmuff
07-09-2004, 08:34 AM
Sex Pistols are great. They created the foundation for 'punk'. Isn't it sad to see someone like Sum 41 also calling themselves punk when the SP were punk? They are soooooooooooo different from each other. The pistols are the real stuff :D
I hope you're taking the piss.
penny_mccartney
10-09-2004, 06:13 PM
I hope you're taking the piss.
Eh? Taking the piss? Actually, I agree with her! There's a quote by somebody...can't remember who right now...and I think it describes the Pistols, in a nutshell:
"The Sex Pistols were punk...everybody else is just punk-rock."
Couldn't have put it better myself! :happy:
Not that there's anything wrong with punk-rock, mind you. :LOL:
Superfuzz_Bigmuff
13-09-2004, 09:07 AM
Eh? Taking the piss? Actually, I agree with her! There's a quote by somebody...can't remember who right now...and I think it describes the Pistols, in a nutshell:
"The Sex Pistols were punk...everybody else is just punk-rock."
Couldn't have put it better myself! :happy:
Not that there's anything wrong with punk-rock, mind you. :LOL:
So you think The Pistols laid the foundations of punk?
penny_mccartney
21-09-2004, 06:20 AM
So you think The Pistols laid the foundations of punk?
Yes. Them among other bands. But certainly them, of course.
Superfuzz_Bigmuff
21-09-2004, 09:25 AM
Yes. Them among other bands. But certainly them, of course.
Bollocks. They may have been one of the first 'Punk' bands to gain noteriety, but they definetly didn't set the foundations for it. Go and listen to The Stooges, The Sonics, The MC5, The Thireenth Floor Elevators, rtc, they set the foundations.
penny_mccartney
14-10-2004, 08:19 PM
Yes, they were before the Pistols, I'm quite aware of that. But the Pistols, as you said, were basically the first to gain notoriety. Without that, punk never would have become what it is today (though I'm not so sure that's necessarily a good thing....), and the genre would either be something that most people have never heard of or non-existant all together. You need a band like the Pistols in order to get a movement going, as well as to keep the genre alive. And yes, they did lay a lot of the foundation of what "punk" is today. For instance, John Lydon had horrible allergies, and he sometimes had to "gob" to the side of the stage between songs. People saw that and emulated him. That kind of stuff happened all the time with the Sex Pistols. I'm sorry but, while it's true that a lot of people have sadly never heard of the Sex Pistols, even fewer have heard of The 13th Floor Elevators and The Stooges. I'm not saying that doesn't mean they're as good as the Pistols, I'm just saying that you need somebody to get things moving along, which is exactly what the Sex Pistols did.
Superfuzz_Bigmuff
15-10-2004, 08:29 AM
Yes, they were before the Pistols, I'm quite aware of that. But the Pistols, as you said, were basically the first to gain notoriety. Without that, punk never would have become what it is today (though I'm not so sure that's necessarily a good thing....), and the genre would either be something that most people have never heard of or non-existant all together. You need a band like the Pistols in order to get a movement going, as well as to keep the genre alive. And yes, they did lay a lot of the foundation of what "punk" is today. For instance, John Lydon had horrible allergies, and he sometimes had to "gob" to the side of the stage between songs. People saw that and emulated him. That kind of stuff happened all the time with the Sex Pistols. I'm sorry but, while it's true that a lot of people have sadly never heard of the Sex Pistols, even fewer have heard of The 13th Floor Elevators and The Stooges. I'm not saying that doesn't mean they're as good as the Pistols, I'm just saying that you need somebody to get things moving along, which is exactly what the Sex Pistols did.
Don't get me wrong, I dislike all the Pistols stood for and how they were marketed and minupulated by Mr McLaren and Ms Westwood but they still made kick ass music. I'm just sick of people proclaiming them to be the punk band. All the gobbing and self mutilation the Pistols went through had been done before by the likes of Iggy. Plus remember that the Pistols are mostly remembered for their antics rather than the music.
The only reason the Pistols are credited by some for starting the movement is because the American scene was so small they couldn't really afford to come here and make names for themselves and there was no MTV back in teh day. There were far better English punk bands than the Pistols, it's just they (and the Clash) had the most 'listenable' music. Which is a shame coz Crass should have gone down as the greatest ever English punk band. And as I've said before, the foundations they laid were mostly ripped off from the Iggmeister, who never got the credit he deserved for what he did for punk.
penny_mccartney
17-10-2004, 03:27 AM
Don't get me wrong, I dislike all the Pistols stood for and how they were marketed and minupulated by Mr McLaren and Ms Westwood but they still made kick ass music. I'm just sick of people proclaiming them to be the punk band. All the gobbing and self mutilation the Pistols went through had been done before by the likes of Iggy. Plus remember that the Pistols are mostly remembered for their antics rather than the music.
The only reason the Pistols are credited by some for starting the movement is because the American scene was so small they couldn't really afford to come here and make names for themselves and there was no MTV back in teh day. There were far better English punk bands than the Pistols, it's just they (and the Clash) had the most 'listenable' music. Which is a shame coz Crass should have gone down as the greatest ever English punk band. And as I've said before, the foundations they laid were mostly ripped off from the Iggmeister, who never got the credit he deserved for what he did for punk.
Hmm...I've never heard of Crass. I'll have to see if I can find some downloads of theirs anywhere....
And...as for the self-mutilation thing...well, I was never really into that anyway. That was Sid's thing, more of a way to get attention than anything, and that aspect of the Pistols really annoys me. I mean...Sid was cool and all, but that was before he got into all the drugs, really. Actually, it was more just before he joined the band period. Have you read John Lydon's biography, Rotten? Judging by how much you know about the whole punk scene, I'm sure you have. But if not, then you should definitely check it out. ;)
Anyway, I want to thank you for coming to this thread and challenging my viewpoints on punk. To tell you the truth, I don't know much about it at all. I took a Survey of Rock Music class my first semester in college (I'm in my third now....), so I was really only taught what I learned, other than what I read in Lydon's bio. So yeah, I'm sure that I have a very biased opinion towards punk. I have, of course, heard of Iggy Pop, but I will admit that I don't really know any of his music, much less of what all he contributed to punk. It's something I'm definitely going to have to research now.
One last question. Did you live through the punk era? It really seems like it. Either that, or you just have some sort of attraction to it. I think it's pretty obvious that I didn't, but I'd like to learn all that I can. So thanks again! :happy:
Drunk muser
17-10-2004, 08:24 AM
Bollocks. They may have been one of the first 'Punk' bands to gain noteriety, but they definetly didn't set the foundations for it. Go and listen to The Stooges, The Sonics, The MC5, The Thireenth Floor Elevators, rtc, they set the foundations.
Seconded!!!
Seconded!!!
Thirdedidided.
They're decent to listen to.. but compared to other punk bands... they're Busted.
penny_mccartney
18-10-2004, 07:23 AM
Thirdedidided.
They're decent to listen to.. but compared to other punk bands... they're Busted.
Busted? I beg to differ. I happen to love their music. I think John Lydon was certainly in his song-writing prime while he was with the Pistols. And think of how much they changed for England!
Superfuzz_Bigmuff
18-10-2004, 10:08 AM
Hmm...I've never heard of Crass. I'll have to see if I can find some downloads of theirs anywhere....
And...as for the self-mutilation thing...well, I was never really into that anyway. That was Sid's thing, more of a way to get attention than anything, and that aspect of the Pistols really annoys me. I mean...Sid was cool and all, but that was before he got into all the drugs, really. Actually, it was more just before he joined the band period. Have you read John Lydon's biography, Rotten? Judging by how much you know about the whole punk scene, I'm sure you have. But if not, then you should definitely check it out. ;)
Anyway, I want to thank you for coming to this thread and challenging my viewpoints on punk. To tell you the truth, I don't know much about it at all. I took a Survey of Rock Music class my first semester in college (I'm in my third now....), so I was really only taught what I learned, other than what I read in Lydon's bio. So yeah, I'm sure that I have a very biased opinion towards punk. I have, of course, heard of Iggy Pop, but I will admit that I don't really know any of his music, much less of what all he contributed to punk. It's something I'm definitely going to have to research now.
One last question. Did you live through the punk era? It really seems like it. Either that, or you just have some sort of attraction to it. I think it's pretty obvious that I didn't, but I'd like to learn all that I can. So thanks again! :happy:
I didn't grow up through the 70's but my older brother was into the British scene in a big way so I picked alot of it up through him. I got into the American stuff later from reading interviews with Nirvana, Mudhoney, Duff McKagen etc, who harp on about the American bands like Black Flag, Big Black, Naked Raygun, Dead Kennedys, etc which then goes back to Teh Sonics, MC5, The Stooges et al. Just read up on all the bands from the sixties I mentioned, they're credited with starting it even if it was termed 'garage rock'.
Busted? I beg to differ. I happen to love their music. I think John Lydon was certainly in his song-writing prime while he was with the Pistols. And think of how much they changed for England!
I didn't say they were Busted. I like them too. But compared to other punk bands they're Busted.
And it wasn't just them that changed england. Thye became famouse as a result of their anti-monarchy way of thinking.
Superfuzz_Bigmuff
18-10-2004, 12:45 PM
Also lets remember that the most contraversial song the Pistols ever did was 'Bodies' and that never definetly confirmed which side of the arguement they were on.
penny_mccartney
21-10-2004, 04:38 PM
Also lets remember that the most contraversial song the Pistols ever did was 'Bodies' and that never definetly confirmed which side of the arguement they were on.
I wouldn'y think that, necessarily. I mean, after all, God Save the Queen really got them into a lot of trouble. That one definitely had the most response - John even got attacked for writing it, as I'm sure you already know. While Bodies was a very controversial song, people just didn't care about it as much, especially when placed next to songs like GStQ. That caused a lot of controversy.
penny_mccartney
21-10-2004, 04:40 PM
Oh yeah, and the reason it never said which side they were on was because they didn't really care about the abortion, one way or the other. The song was really about an insane fan who's name was....Pauline. :unsure:
Superfuzz_Bigmuff
22-10-2004, 09:49 AM
I wouldn'y think that, necessarily. I mean, after all, God Save the Queen really got them into a lot of trouble. That one definitely had the most response - John even got attacked for writing it, as I'm sure you already know. While Bodies was a very controversial song, people just didn't care about it as much, especially when placed next to songs like GStQ. That caused a lot of controversy.
Yeah, but attack someone who has absolutley no relavance at all is a little pointless, isn't it?
Sarah
22-10-2004, 10:33 PM
Listening to Pretty Vacant right now. I love how they cay 'cunt' without it being censored off this single. Smmmart.
penny_mccartney
23-10-2004, 06:10 AM
Yeah, but attack someone who has absolutley no relavance at all is a little pointless, isn't it?
Well yes, but that's besides the point. The fact still remains that that particular song got the most reaction...the most notice. A lot more so than "Bodies".
penny_mccartney
23-10-2004, 06:24 AM
Listening to Pretty Vacant right now. I love how they cay 'cunt' without it being censored off this single. Smmmart.
hehe You know, I actually noticed that before I even read about it. I was listening to it one day, and I thought, "Wow. It really sounds like they're saying 'cunt'! I can't believe they never realized that!" I thought it was so hilarious. But yeah, when I read that they did that on purpose, it was even better.
You know...as much as they all hate the Beatles, that's actually a lot like something they did. In the song "Girl", in the backups, they're saying the word, "tit, tit, tit, tit," over and over again. They, too, thought that it was hilarious as hell to be able to get something like that to play on the radio. It's kind of interesting to me that somebody they despise so much can end up being like them in quite a few ways.... :rolleyes:
Dream Digger
23-10-2004, 02:51 PM
(...)they were marketed and minupulated by Mr McLaren and Ms Westwood(...)
EXACTLY. They were (IMHO!) essentialy a boy-band put together by Malcolm McLaren to make some cash for him.
Then again, I'm also biased. I happen to totally hate them.
penny_mccartney
23-10-2004, 08:07 PM
EXACTLY. They were (IMHO!) essentialy a boy-band put together by Malcolm McLaren to make some cash for him.
Then again, I'm also biased. I happen to totally hate them.
Who the hell doesn't? God, he pisses me off to no fucking end! I mean, not only did he totally manipulate them, but he also made them basically live as his indentured servants or soemthing. Oh yes, and let's not forget how he, Steve, and (Paul) left John completely broke with nothing more than a couple of useless contracts! Oh, and then the thing to top it all - trying to steal Johnny's name. Grrr. That just did it for me there.
Did you know he ran for mayor of London a while ago? Ha, what a fucking idiot! He wanted to pass laws that were completely ridiculous! For example, he wanted liqour to be served in public libraries. I mean...serisously, what the hell?! Needless to say, he withdrew from the race before the actual voting day. (I don't know why, I'm sure he could have won! :rolleyes:)
...he wanted liqour to be served in public libraries. I mean...serisously, what the hell?!
:LOL:
Dream Digger
24-10-2004, 08:48 PM
By writing "hate them" I meant the Sex Pistols not McLaren (to be honest, he's so pathethic he doesn't even deserve my hatred).
I don't like bands who can't play, I can't stand Rotten's voice, and I especially dislike talentless, aggressive dickheads like Sid Vicious.
Sarah
25-10-2004, 08:30 AM
I don't like bands who can't play, I can't stand Rotten's voice, and I especially dislike talentless, aggressive dickheads like Sid Vicious.
I think you missed the entire point of them, then.
Superfuzz_Bigmuff
25-10-2004, 08:36 AM
I think you missed the entire point of them, then.
I second this point.
Dream Digger
25-10-2004, 04:05 PM
Well, I just hate that kind of... erm, *stuff*. Is having different taste in music than yours equals "missing the point"?...
I have the same right to hate them as you have the right to love them.
Sarah
25-10-2004, 04:09 PM
I never said anything like that. It's the fact that you hate the reason why they were so revolutionary. Normally, unless you're a conservative bastard, people like that even if they hate the music. That rebellious streak..
LittleMUSEalieN
25-10-2004, 04:31 PM
me likes teh pistols ^^
penny_mccartney
25-10-2004, 08:40 PM
I never said anything like that. It's the fact that you hate the reason why they were so revolutionary. Normally, unless you're a conservative bastard, people like that even if they hate the music. That rebellious streak..
I agree. Whether or not you like the music, you should be able to appreciate all that they contributed to what music that you probably listen to today. And, even if not, let's say you listen to pop or something...well, obviously that wasn't much influenced by the punk movement, but just say you listen to pop. You should still appreciate the way they stood up for what they believed in, even though there were horrible (and sometimes life-threatening) consequences. That has nothing to do with their music.
Anyway, on another note, I think John's voice is either something you love or hate. Me, I fell in love with it right away. It was so different from the norm, something that I could actually listen to without getting bored. But my friend Jamie absolutely hates his voice. Seems like your either one extreme or the other.
And as for Sid...well, he wasn't even originally a Pistol. Plus, Nancy had a lot to do with his behavior, and she had just about everything to do with his drug addiction, so...yeah. Now, I know you could say that it's his fault for going along with Nancy, and letting fame get to his head and yadda, yadda, yadda, and it is. But I can't help but feel a bit sorry for the poor guy every time I think of how much he was manipulated and changed because of being in the band. In John's autobiography, he himself decribes Sid as having been "sensitive and really a bit shy", saying that Sid just tried too hard to impress people. I'm sure we've all experienced that in one point in our lives, though maybe not to the same extent as Sid. Basically, I just think that fame was not for him. He wasn't prepared for it, he didn't know how to deal. Poor guy. :'(
Dream Digger
26-10-2004, 08:00 AM
OK...
I do appreciate *one* thing: if there had been no Sex Pistols, many, many people (probably yourself included, Penny) wouldn't have their favourite band. Anyone who makes even a single person happy with their music is valid. Even if I totally hate that music. ;)
As for their contribution to music... well there must have been some. Me, I like Placebo very, very much, and I'm sure the Pistols and other punk bands are some of their major influences. But I also love stuff that has been before punk, and against which punk stood, namely Prog-Rock (King Crimson, Jethro Tull etc). So, as you can see, I appreciate musicianship (btw, Muse are GREAT musicians!), of course not for its own sake but for MUSIC's sake - and that's what the Pistols definitely lacked. Why the fuck did they kick out Glen Matlock? He was probably too good as a musician, methinks... :rolleyes:
Sid? OK, there may be some truth in what you're saying... But I'll always hate him for the "today I killed a cat" line. It may sound stupid to you, but that's how it is. I'm a cat lover (I would be equally outraged if the line said "today I killed a dog", though).
Superfuzz_Bigmuff
26-10-2004, 08:01 AM
Well, I just hate that kind of... erm, *stuff*. Is having different taste in music than yours equals "missing the point"?...
Jondalar's right more than I am. Be careful.
Sarah
26-10-2004, 09:33 AM
Why the fuck did they kick out Glen Matlock? He was probably too good as a musician, methinks... :rolleyes:
Why does anyone leave a band? Because they don't meet eye to eye, usually. & apparently Matlock was a bit too much of a nice boy to sing about anarchy.
penny_mccartney
28-10-2004, 04:44 PM
Why does anyone leave a band? Because they don't meet eye to eye, usually. & apparently Matlock was a bit too much of a nice boy to sing about anarchy.
Yeah, Glen didn't want his mummy to get upset with him. He had to get her approval for each and every single song. :rolleyes:
But he did bring a good musical element, I'll agree with that much. But...the Pistols didn't want happy, nice, Beatle-style music. You can't possibly be in a band with three other people, all oh whom want to go in a different direction, musically. It just doesn't work.
penny_mccartney
28-10-2004, 04:55 PM
I do appreciate *one* thing: if there had been no Sex Pistols, many, many people (probably yourself included, Penny) wouldn't have their favourite band. Anyone who makes even a single person happy with their music is valid. Even if I totally hate that music. ;)
hehe Yeah, glad you at least see that way. I hate people who, since they don't like a particular band, think that nobody should like them.
As for their contribution to music... well there must have been some. Me, I like Placebo very, very much, and I'm sure the Pistols and other punk bands are some of their major influences. But I also love stuff that has been before punk, and against which punk stood, namely Prog-Rock (King Crimson, Jethro Tull etc). So, as you can see, I appreciate musicianship (btw, Muse are GREAT musicians!), of course not for its own sake but for MUSIC's sake - and that's what the Pistols definitely lacked. Why the fuck did they kick out Glen Matlock? He was probably too good as a musician, methinks... :rolleyes:
Hmm...well, that's true for me too. I love The Beatles. I mean, come on! The Pistols were totaly anit-Beatle! But I don't care really. I mean, that's them, this is me. But then again, I love a lot of music in which you can see their influence. In fact, my favorite System of a Down song is "Pogo". I can't help but think of the pogo dance, even though they mention an actual pogo stick in the song. :happy:
Oh yes, and John was into the music. In fact, he hated the way that Malcolm wasn't.
Sid? OK, there may be some truth in what you're saying... But I'll always hate him for the "today I killed a cat" line. It may sound stupid to you, but that's how it is. I'm a cat lover (I would be equally outraged if the line said "today I killed a dog", though).
Meh...I thought that line was hilarious. (And no, I don't hate cats) I really love that song because that was when Sid finally started being able to be his own person, and to form an opinion about things. For example, my favorite part is:
For what is a prat?
What has he got?
When he wears hats
And he cannot...
etc. Those lines are about John, and, even though he's my favorite Pistol, I think it's so cool the way Sid just totally rips on him. (hehe) Sid has always had a sense of humor, and I think it finally becomes apparent in the song "My Way".
One thing that's confusing me, though. Either you're older than I think you are, you're a closet Pistols' fan, or you used to be a fan of theirs. How do you know the song "My Way"? I'm lucky if I can find somebody who knows the song "Anarchy in the U.K.", but "My Way"?
....God, I think I'd piss my pants with excitement if I met somebody who actually knew that song.... :LOL:
Sarah
28-10-2004, 05:10 PM
A lot of people know about 'My Way'. Such an ace cover. Only decent thing that boy ever did.
penny_mccartney
29-10-2004, 10:39 PM
I dunno, he's pretty funny in the song "Something Else". I mean, the words aren't any different than the original (I think it's by Chuck Berry maybe....), but the scene where he sings it is really funny.
Ah, and he was in that one band, The Vicious White Kids. I don't know much by them, but they seem okay....
Dream Digger
31-10-2004, 06:17 PM
No, I'm not that old (25), and I've always hated the Pistols... But yeah, I know "My Way" - I saw the video for that song on one of those 60s/70s/80s music programmes (I rather like old stuff, so I watch such programmes whenever I can).
penny_mccartney
02-11-2004, 02:26 AM
No, I'm not that old (25), and I've always hated the Pistols... But yeah, I know "My Way" - I saw the video for that song on one of those 60s/70s/80s music programmes (I rather like old stuff, so I watch such programmes whenever I can).
Ah, I see. Well, that makes sense then.
LittleMUSEalieN
21-05-2005, 10:55 AM
And as for Sid...well, he wasn't even originally a Pistol. Plus, Nancy had a lot to do with his behavior, and she had just about everything to do with his drug addiction, so...yeah. Now, I know you could say that it's his fault for going along with Nancy, and letting fame get to his head and yadda, yadda, yadda, and it is. But I can't help but feel a bit sorry for the poor guy every time I think of how much he was manipulated and changed because of being in the band. In John's autobiography, he himself decribes Sid as having been "sensitive and really a bit shy", saying that Sid just tried too hard to impress people. I'm sure we've all experienced that in one point in our lives, though maybe not to the same extent as Sid. Basically, I just think that fame was not for him. He wasn't prepared for it, he didn't know how to deal. Poor guy. :'(
i agree, but i think it also has a lot to do with his youth and growing up in general... and that things started going downhill from then, i can't remember all the facts.. but like with his parents split, and his mums new bfs, and allways moving and stuff, and the state their appartment was in and that his mum made it a causal thing to just sit down and get drugged up on the couch in the livingroom with him. i remember sumwhere in some interview that lydon said when he went home with simon 1 day and saw the state he was living in, he was really shocked and it had a great inpact on him.
btw i love this thread :D
LittleMUSEalieN
26-05-2005, 03:20 PM
Oi back up here you!!
has anybody seen the dvd "the filth and the fury"??
mr.jingles
01-12-2006, 04:28 PM
The Sex Pistols were complete utter shit. The only reason why they received so much media attention was thanks to their image and the controversy they created. Sort of like the Madonna of rock bands.
Now, I'm not punk biased. The Clash, the Ramones, and Green Day are pretty good bands, but the Pistols don't have an inch of talent on them.
pubicmage
01-12-2006, 04:31 PM
the Pistols don't have an inch of talent on them.
Try using your ears to realise how wrong that statement is.
Milky Joe
10-11-2007, 01:13 PM
Why on earth has this thread been ignored for so long?
Has anyone been to see them at Brixton or is going to? I went yesterday, and they were very good :)
Why on earth has this thread been ignored for so long?
Has anyone been to see them at Brixton or is going to? I went yesterday, and they were very good :)
Because they are are an old crap band who weren't that good even when I was young.
this thread is really short... wierd
yea i was obsessed with them about 4 years ago, then i got tired of them.. they are good, but are a little overrated.
Milky Joe
11-11-2007, 03:42 PM
Because they are are an old crap band who weren't that good even when I was young.
Nice that someone finally posted, but we don't need that. They were really good the other day.
pubicmage
11-11-2007, 03:44 PM
I like them, but I would much rather see the original Public Image Ltd reform. They were much more unique.
susurr0
11-11-2007, 03:57 PM
Try using your ears to realise how wrong that statement is.
Try using your ears to realize how much Sex Pistols suck.
Seriously ;).
pubicmage
11-11-2007, 04:23 PM
Try using your ears to realize how much Sex Pistols suck.
Seriously ;).
Try looking up 'subjectivity' in the dictionary. It seems like an alien concept to you. :)
E-Mused
11-11-2007, 04:34 PM
Ooo yeah I really like the sex pistols.
Nice that someone finally posted, but we don't need that. They were really good the other day.
Just trying to wake up an old thread sweetheart:)
I like them, but I would much rather see the original Public Image Ltd reform. They were much more unique.
No no no no no, something is either unique or it isn't you absolutely can't say more unique.
PIL were in fact terrible and all the better for it.
pubicmage
11-11-2007, 05:28 PM
No no no no no, something is either unique or it isn't you absolutely can't say more unique.
PIL were in fact terrible and all the better for it.
Fair point.
But they were easily the best group of the new-wave era. Their first two albums were far more inventive than what the majority of other pop musicians were doing at the time.
EvanMael
11-11-2007, 05:33 PM
PIL were in fact terrible and all the better for it.
Even the song 'Public Image'?
I mean it's undeniably a classic...
pubicmage
11-11-2007, 05:35 PM
Even the song 'Public Image'?
I mean it's undeniably a classic...
Poptones is better! Keith Levene's metallic drone-like guitar sound on those early records is so good.
EvanMael
11-11-2007, 05:37 PM
Poptones is better! Keith Levene's metallic drone-like guitar sound on those early records is so good.
Is that on Metalbox? Because I havn't got that yet:(
Oh and Sex Pistols are a great band, but it's hard to say much more because they only made one album.
pubicmage
11-11-2007, 05:43 PM
Yes, it's one of the best tracks on the album, imo. Check this video out, it's an abridged (but good) performance of it on the Old Grey Whistle Test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnBq98uUJE4
As for the Sex Pistols, I like NMTB, but I find myself listening to their demos and b-sides more often. Substitute and No Fun are great covers.
EvanMael
11-11-2007, 05:48 PM
It's not what exactly what I expected but it's quite cool song actually.
Judderman
17-11-2007, 11:36 PM
the sex pistols are twats and there audience are the most obnoxious, tight arsed fuckers ever. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH
/rant.
Milky Joe
18-11-2007, 10:18 AM
the sex pistols are twats and there audience are the most obnoxious, tight arsed fuckers ever. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH
/rant.
:LOL: :\mm/:
mr.jingles
19-11-2007, 07:40 PM
Why are they Sex Pistols considered legends is beyond me.
My guess is that if you can't make good music, controversy is a great way to sell it.
Just look what it did to Madonna.
playing hammersmith apollo in september...
Noel Gallagher
25-06-2008, 01:48 PM
playing hammersmith apollo in september...
Love the Pistols hoping to get to that gig, the difference between them and any other punk band of that era was that the pistols were a Rock n' Roll band dressed like punks they had ball that the other did. Compare them to the Damned for example who were just bizarre.
r.e.d.r.u.m.
26-06-2008, 08:36 PM
are they any good these times? next week i'll be on the festival they play on and i wonder if i should see them or go and see jay z :LOL:
GorkerMorker
26-06-2008, 08:40 PM
are they any good these times? next week i'll be on the festival they play on and i wonder if i should see them or go and see jay z :LOL:
Fuck Jay Z, these guys are legends, even if they aren't good anymore, they won't be playing many gigs anymore.
Fuck Jay Z, these guys are legends, even if they aren't good anymore, they won't be playing many gigs anymore.
it all depends on what sorta music you like, jay-z and sex pistols are really quite different styles, but if you are undecided...how many more oppurtunitys are you guna have to see the pistols..
r.e.d.r.u.m.
26-06-2008, 08:46 PM
and how many opportunities to see jay-z :D
but
I can be far from the stage seeing jay-z or in the first row on sex pistols after cocorosie performance
and how many opportunities to see jay-z :D
but
I can be far from the stage seeing jay-z or in the first row on sex pistols after cocorosie performance
id go see the pistols.
this will be like, your last chance ever to see them
whereas jay-z...he's guna be round for a few more years
r.e.d.r.u.m.
26-06-2008, 08:50 PM
haha, no, not in Poland ;)
but I must think about it
haha, no, not in Poland ;)
but I must think about it
well, what style of music do you prefer?
GorkerMorker
26-06-2008, 08:59 PM
I know that I'm going to see them at Lowlands for sure.
Jay-z is touring alot with other artists, especially since this 'feature duet rage' is continueing, he'll definitely think up new artists combos.
r.e.d.r.u.m.
26-06-2008, 10:11 PM
don't really listen to sex pistols and jay-z... i love the mars volta, bjork, radiohead, cocorosie etc
WutDaFucksy
04-09-2008, 06:53 PM
good at hammersmith :yesey:
Noel Gallagher
04-09-2008, 10:38 PM
good at hammersmith :yesey:
Lucky Bastard!
Good to see The Pistols have got it over 30 years on from Never Mind The Bollocks.
Sophie.
05-09-2008, 11:34 AM
I didn't go see them at Hammersmith. I saw them at Brixton last November, and I'm going to wait until they start charging a reasonable price for their gigs (if they continue gigging) before I see them again.
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