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Simone
10-08-2004, 02:08 AM
I'd have to say Travis and Coldplay. (where's the vomiting icon?)

if one more person compares their boring songs to radiohead, i will shoot.

slightly bemused
10-08-2004, 04:23 AM
U2

they are farther from being all that than they are from actually being bad

Zebu
10-08-2004, 04:45 AM
Mettalica


and im jumping in for coldplay and saying that they are good.

Jonathon
10-08-2004, 05:12 AM
Jet

Recycled music, suck live.

Simone
10-08-2004, 07:31 AM
U2

they are farther from being all that than they are from actually being bad

wow, i was always afraid to say that I thought U2 were overrated :stunned: you are a brave soul.

I dig their most famous hits, but most of their stuff always struck me as pretty mediocre

incubism
10-08-2004, 07:53 AM
I agree on U2

Id say Aerosmith..if there are people that still like em :rolleyes:

Eve
10-08-2004, 10:10 AM
Jet

Recycled music, suck live.

I didn't like them anyway so couldn't overrate them either.

I like their name tho ;) :D

Imperium
10-08-2004, 10:19 AM
a whole heap of bands but these stand out...

whitestripes
oasis
metallica

Superfuzz_Bigmuff
10-08-2004, 10:20 AM
U2, The Beatles, The Sex Pistols and The Smashing Pumpkins are all overrated to fuck.

LittleMUSEalieN
10-08-2004, 11:11 AM
The Smashing Pumpkins overrated???
i guess i havent heard all that but they are one hell of a band!!!
and yup i agree on the white stripes lol. i dunno i just dont agree with teh big deal they made out of it.
and yeh U2 id say, tho like Leo said i like some of their stuff.
The Darkness.

Ollie of Symmetry
10-08-2004, 11:12 AM
OASIS!!!!! they r they most overatee band ever!

and also i thibnk GUns and Roses are, they have about 3 good songs or maybe 4 and the rest r very average :indiffere

Superfuzz_Bigmuff
10-08-2004, 11:31 AM
I'd like to add Fugazi to my list as well.

oxnoe
10-08-2004, 11:43 AM
I can't believe nobody mentionned THE DARKNESS yet. Fuck they are bad.

incubism
10-08-2004, 12:08 PM
Stereophonics too!

[iammattsguitar]
10-08-2004, 12:09 PM
oasis
the whitestripes
metallica
the darkness
nirvana
jet
the rasmus

Stuey
10-08-2004, 12:22 PM
I think BRMC are overated, replacing white stripes as 2nd headliners at reading the other year and generally being very high up in festival orders. They just seem a very dull ordinary indie band with nothing special to me.

Nancuk
10-08-2004, 12:30 PM
Jet

Recycled music, suck live.

I agree with that and add on The Darkness, U2 and Green Day.

Wackyracers
10-08-2004, 01:05 PM
I'd have to say Travis and Coldplay. (where's the vomiting icon?)

if one more person compares their boring songs to radiohead, i will shoot.Oh, this is one of those threads that people just name the bands they hate and don't want to be Publicized :rolleyes:

Caff
10-08-2004, 01:07 PM
I can't believe nobody mentionned THE DARKNESS yet. Fuck they are bad.

They're more amusing than bad.

Caff
10-08-2004, 01:08 PM
And I'd like to add that since Kurt's death...Nirvana have become painfully overrated [Fuzz is probably going to kill me for that one ;p].

Superfuzz_Bigmuff
10-08-2004, 01:16 PM
And I'd like to add that since Kurt's death...Nirvana have become painfully overrated [Fuzz is probably going to kill me for that one ;p].

Nope, I agree.

Caff
10-08-2004, 01:19 PM
Nope, I agree.

I guess that's because you can remember them at the time? In my experience it's people who probably weren't out of nappies at the time that want my head piked every time I point out that they are, sadly, overrated.

Superfuzz_Bigmuff
10-08-2004, 01:24 PM
I guess that's because you can remember them at the time? In my experience it's people who probably weren't out of nappies at the time that want my head piked every time I point out that they are, sadly, overrated.

When they where around they got as much attention as they deserved, but when he popped his clogs it all got a bit silly. Everyone jumping on the bandwagon and shit.

Elouan
10-08-2004, 01:49 PM
Kane, a dutch band :rolleyes:

Vegetable
10-08-2004, 01:55 PM
Kane, a dutch band :rolleyes:

HE! Damn, I actually wanted to say that :LOL: So euhm, I second that :p

*glam*
10-08-2004, 02:39 PM
Coldplay
White Stripes
The Strokes
KOL
The Darkness
Korn

LittleMUSEalieN
10-08-2004, 02:56 PM
HE! Damn, I actually wanted to say that :LOL: So euhm, I second that :p

totally forgot about kane lol i third that :D

Muser_Hullabaloser
10-08-2004, 02:59 PM
Oasis
Coldplay
White Stripes
Maroon 5
Jet
Stereophonics
Blink 182

Shotdown
10-08-2004, 03:26 PM
Green Day

Bollocks to you! In the nicest possible way. Green Day are if anything 'under-rated' they have so many amazing and perfect albums and the new one is shaping up to top them all. They arnt played on TV or radio enough

But i do admit Basket Case is over-rated

How To Be Dead
10-08-2004, 04:00 PM
Keane
Busted
Jet

The beatles are not over-rated :rolleyes:

Nancuk
10-08-2004, 04:02 PM
Bollocks to you! In the nicest possible way. Green Day are if anything 'under-rated' they have so many amazing and perfect albums and the new one is shaping up to top them all. They arnt played on TV or radio enough

But i do admit Basket Case is over-rated

Ok shall I reprase that? 'In my opinion, Green Day are overrated'.

How To Be Dead
10-08-2004, 04:06 PM
Ok shall I reprase that? 'In my opinion, Green Day are overrated'.
I agree .

That Little Animal
10-08-2004, 04:08 PM
the venga boys

Gman
10-08-2004, 04:20 PM
Muse. Horrendously overrated.

Simone
10-08-2004, 04:52 PM
Oh, this is one of those threads that people just name the bands they hate and don't want to be Publicized :rolleyes:


get over yourself :stunned: you're becomming too predictable.

Simone
10-08-2004, 04:57 PM
I agree on U2

Id say Aerosmith..if there are people that still like em :rolleyes:

:LOL: I always thought that I was one of the only nerds out there to love aerosmith, and that they were underrated. I get made fun of for being such a big aerosmith fan. What is it about their music that turns people off? Or is it their image or something?

LikelyLass
10-08-2004, 05:25 PM
I cant stand U2. One of the most overrated bands in history :indiffere

Grapevine
10-08-2004, 05:27 PM
Nirvana (I still like them, but they are overrated.)
The Strokes
Maroon 5
Guns 'n' Roses

ruthless
10-08-2004, 05:54 PM
The Darkness
The White Stripes
Stereophonics
Jet
Coldplay

Cortez the Killer
10-08-2004, 07:20 PM
So, all you guys who really seem to hate the White Stripes, is this a pre-Elephant decision, or post? Cause I would agree post-Elephant, but otherwise no.

ok_computer
10-08-2004, 07:47 PM
Nickelback, Creed, Stereophonics, Live...

LikelyLass
10-08-2004, 07:53 PM
Nickelback, Creed, Stereophonics, Live...

Are Nickelback and Creed thought of as good at all?

Apocalypse King
10-08-2004, 07:55 PM
Nirvana are overrated (although I still love them, been listening to them a lot recently)

Um.. Coldplay are pretty overrated.

The White Stripes are also kinda overrated, although I do like some of their work pre-Elephant.

Guns 'n' Roses. Don't see what's so great about them personnaly. I fnd them painful to listen to. Aerosmith as well actually. And Bon Jovi. That's just my opinion though.

the italian mafia
10-08-2004, 08:01 PM
the darkness
keane
chili peppers (new album ,obviously, - wasnt that all that great at all. in fact i hated it)

Britrock
10-08-2004, 08:48 PM
Pah, G 'n R are great, Appetite for Destruction is flawless. :happy:

Franz Ferdinand are horribly horrendously stupidly overrated. They're good, but they certainly are NOT the saviours of pop music or whatever.

incubism
10-08-2004, 09:01 PM
:LOL: I always thought that I was one of the only nerds out there to love aerosmith, and that they were underrated. I get made fun of for being such a big aerosmith fan. What is it about their music that turns people off? Or is it their image or something?

:LOL: how did they become MTVicon then??

pff its everything, im sorry..the music just annoys me..and Steven Tyler too ;)

Imperium
10-08-2004, 09:34 PM
Pah, G 'n R are great, Appetite for Destruction is flawless. :happy:

Franz Ferdinand are horribly horrendously stupidly overrated. They're good, but they certainly are NOT the saviours of pop music or whatever.

i agree, franz ferdinand are just another shitty overrated indie band with old style shitty riffs that went out ages ago, just another band bummed by radio 1

Simone
10-08-2004, 09:44 PM
Are Nickelback and Creed thought of as good at all?


yeah, by 'overrated' i didn't mean bands that are obviously bad to most people :LOL:
i meant bad bands that are "good" to most people

Simone
10-08-2004, 09:48 PM
:LOL: how did they become MTVicon then??



because of their music videos, not so much the music. their videos were always great, (livin' on the edge, cryin') :D

JimJims
10-08-2004, 09:50 PM
The Darkness
The Libertines
Snow Patrol
White Stripes
Iron Maiden :rolleyes:
Funeral for a Friend :rolleyes:
Keane
The Rolling Stones
The Killers
Stereophonics
Paddy Casey (Irish musician)
Morrissey
Pearl Jam
Silverchair
Razorlight
Hope of the States

Apocalypse King
10-08-2004, 09:55 PM
The Darkness
The Libertines
Snow Patrol
White Stripes
Iron Maiden :rolleyes:
Funeral for a Friend :rolleyes:
Keane
The Rolling Stones
The Killers
Stereophonics
Paddy Casey (Irish musician)
Morrissey
Pearl Jam
Silverchair
Razorlight
Hope of the States

The Darkness, I forgot to mention them. Also, I don't see what all the fuss is about Keane either. The Killers are another one.. I think they just sound like any old band..

Simone
10-08-2004, 10:04 PM
The Darkness
The Libertines
Snow Patrol
White Stripes
Iron Maiden :rolleyes:
Funeral for a Friend :rolleyes:
Keane
The Rolling Stones
The Killers
Stereophonics
Paddy Casey (Irish musician)
Morrissey
Pearl Jam
Silverchair
Razorlight
Hope of the States


OMG I totally forgot about the Rolling Stones! They are possibly the most overrated band in history :mad:

Apocalypse King
10-08-2004, 10:07 PM
OMG I totally forgot about the Rolling Stones! They are possibly the most overrated band in history :mad:

Quite possibly yes. They sound so boring.. I have a tape of them here, and the songs are just so forgettable.

JimJims
10-08-2004, 10:14 PM
Oh Oh i forgot on the top of my list was meant to be Guns and Roses

Caff
10-08-2004, 10:20 PM
Funeral for a Friend :rolleyes:


Fuck I AGREE. Worsrt band I've ever had to endure live...EVER, and I've seen some right shite.

Cry me a river you wannabe emo-gofficks.

Megalomaniac
10-08-2004, 10:27 PM
Keane
The Darkness
Nirvana

JimJims
10-08-2004, 10:33 PM
Fuck I AGREE. Worsrt band I've ever had to endure live...EVER, and I've seen some right shite.

Cry me a river you wannabe emo-gofficks.

Jesus it must have been a good band u were enduring them for?

Caff
10-08-2004, 10:35 PM
Jesus it must have been a good band u were enduring them for?

Muse...T in The Park this year :p.

JimJims
10-08-2004, 10:38 PM
Muse...T in The Park this year :p.

:LOL: I see, I had to endure Pink for Muse, possibly worse at Oxegen :rolleyes:

Caff
11-08-2004, 12:02 AM
i agree, franz ferdinand are just another shitty overrated indie band with old style shitty riffs that went out ages ago, just another band bummed by radio 1

*Stabs you*

Haha kidding...everyone entitled to their opinion and all that.

They're not amazing, just fun music you can dance to. And I like that. It's simple, not groundbreaking...lighthearted harmless fun.

Britrock
11-08-2004, 12:55 AM
*Stabs you*

Haha kidding...everyone entitled to their opinion and all that.

They're not amazing, just fun music you can dance to. And I like that. It's simple, not groundbreaking...lighthearted harmless fun.

Like I said originally, I think they're good, and the albums alright. BUT, they are NOT absolutely amazingly fucking incredibly stunningly great, as the media would like me to believe.

And FFAF are crap, saw them at the NME awards tour thingy (which was crap, missed the only band I went for, the aforementioned FF) and they were shite.

Caff
11-08-2004, 01:07 AM
Like I said originally, I think they're good, and the albums alright. BUT, they are NOT absolutely amazingly fucking incredibly stunningly great, as the media would like me to believe.

And FFAF are crap, saw them at the NME awards tour thingy (which was crap, missed the only band I went for, the aforementioned FF) and they were shite.

Aye trust me...even though I am a fan, I agree with you. I just have them as my "fun...hey let's all dance" band. They say they want nothing more than to write pop songs and that's what they do. It certainly isn't amazing.

FFAF should split up. It's for the good of humanity.

Imperium
11-08-2004, 02:10 PM
*Stabs you*

Haha kidding...everyone entitled to their opinion and all that.

They're not amazing, just fun music you can dance to. And I like that. It's simple, not groundbreaking...lighthearted harmless fun.

that i dont mind, just the fact that theyre made out to be so good, if they were treated as average, fair do's but there not

_x_Clare_x_
11-08-2004, 02:29 PM
just one? sorry can't the main ones that come to mind are
Nirvana the most, red hot chili peppers and metalica
also theres iron maiden, radiohead, ash and busted.

ilikecheese
11-08-2004, 07:23 PM
green day deserve all their attention.it doesnt help when basket case and time of your life is played over and over again making out its their only 2 great songs. I can think of 10 songs with videos that are mostly ignored but are very gud songs

Nancuk
11-08-2004, 09:34 PM
I must agree about FFFAF. They really are tripe.

Zerø
12-08-2004, 07:34 AM
I still don't see the point in this kind of thread.

There are very few people who will admit to liking a band and saying that they are overated for what they are.
So instead this thread is really just as 'what bands do you not like'.

incubism
12-08-2004, 07:54 AM
because of their music videos, not so much the music. their videos were always great, (livin' on the edge, cryin') :D

hmm I didnt like those a lot..they do want people to see them 'livin on the edge' real bad do they :rolleyes:

I agree with Greenday being underrated btw!

Simone
12-08-2004, 03:41 PM
I still don't see the point in this kind of thread.

There are very few people who will admit to liking a band and saying that they are overated for what they are.
So instead this thread is really just as 'what bands do you not like'.


the point of the thread is not to expose obviously bad bands as bad, and complain about teenagers buying their records, the point is to expose bands who through history have wayyy to much respect for their mediocre/boring music. and usually people don't enjoy listening to music that they think is boring and overrated, so i don't see any point in you writing that load up above. there's a big difference between saying "i hate nickelback" and "coldplay can suck my dick, those untallented retards" because coldplay is a band that generally, people are brainwashed into listening to and liking.

Zerø
12-08-2004, 04:04 PM
the point of the thread is not to expose obviously bad bands as bad, and complain about teenagers buying their records, the point is to expose bands who through history have wayyy to much respect for their mediocre/boring music. and usually people don't enjoy listening to music that they think is boring and overrated, so i don't see any point in you writing that load up above. there's a big difference between saying "i hate nickelback" and "coldplay can suck my dick, those untallented retards" because coldplay is a band that generally, people are brainwashed into listening to and liking. But it's not exposing bands that have too much respect blah blah.
It's just people exposing bands that they personally don't like.

The only person I've seen who has admitted that a band is basically overrated was Cath talking about Franz Ferdinand and saying they aren't amazing like people make out.
Everyone else has simply said the bands that they do not like.

Magdalena
12-08-2004, 04:21 PM
Franz Ferdinand - I really like them, but still. They're not as overly amazing as people say.
Radiohead - In my opinion. Now you're all going to shout at me.

Apocalypse King
12-08-2004, 04:35 PM
Pretty much every band these days is overrated. The media and the music press blow everything totally out of proportion, and record companies go so overboard with promotional stuff, it's hard to say there's anything that isn't overrated..

Zerø
12-08-2004, 04:41 PM
Pretty much every band these days is overrated. The media and the music press blow everything totally out of proportion, and record companies go so overboard with promotional stuff, it's hard to say there's anything that isn't overrated.. Now that I can agree with.

Quite a cliché, but the media is destorying the music industry.

Nikora
12-08-2004, 04:41 PM
Franz Ferdinand - I really like them, but still. They're not as overly amazing as people say.
Radiohead - In my opinion. Now you're all going to shout at me.
YES!!! somebody else here who doesn't get radiohead :D I'm not alone

Magdalena
12-08-2004, 04:47 PM
YES!!! somebody else here who doesn't get radiohead :D I'm not alone

I thought I was the only one.
Phew.

rockchik
12-08-2004, 06:10 PM
the darkness

Andre 3000
13-08-2004, 09:44 AM
they arent overated if everybody says they are guys....

Tallulah
15-08-2004, 09:13 PM
Morrissey is not over-rated. My personal choices for overratedness are Radiohead & Nirvana.....the end.

Caff
15-08-2004, 09:53 PM
The only person I've seen who has admitted that a band is basically overrated was Cath talking about Franz Ferdinand and saying they aren't amazing like people make out.


Aye and I like them...so it's not a personal hate campaigne. It pains me to say it but Franz aren't doing anything new that makes them "saviours" or anything BUT it's the media saying things like that. Franz have admitted they just wanted to make simple pop music...and they're nice guys too so they deserve the attention..but they don't deserve to be getting raped by the media as much as they are therefore making them overrated :(.

Mikhail Gorbachev
15-08-2004, 10:01 PM
Did I mention Primus were overrated?

JimJims
15-08-2004, 10:20 PM
Morrissey is not over-rated. My personal choices for overratedness are Radiohead & Nirvana.....the end.

I think he is, the whole of Manchester just likes him because hes a Mancunian.

Deimos
16-08-2004, 10:54 AM
And NME thinks he's some kind of god. Music to slit your wrists to or what?

Deimos

theimpressiveclergyman
16-08-2004, 11:42 AM
Speaking of the NME- comparing Franz Ferdinand and The Libertines to The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. No, no, NO.

*glam*
16-08-2004, 11:59 AM
All these retro-rock bands are overrated.

Mozza
16-08-2004, 12:00 PM
And NME thinks he's some kind of god. Music to slit your wrists to or what?

Deimos

I don't ever feel the urge to slit my wrists, ever and i listen to radiohead who people make that comment about. The other day i put on massive attack and some girl said "oh i don't want to get depressed, don't make me slit my wrists", what???????

LittleMUSEalieN
16-08-2004, 12:13 PM
I don't ever feel the urge to slit my wrists, ever and i listen to radiohead who people make that comment about. The other day i put on massive attack and some girl said "oh i don't want to get depressed, don't make me slit my wrists", what???????

mahaha :LOL: with Massive Attack? come on!!!
i can understand that Radiohead can sometimes sound quite depressing (and yes i am a Radiohead fan) but come on i mean to slit your wrists to it? naah youd have to be more depressed beforehand to do that.

Gemsy
16-08-2004, 12:18 PM
the darkness

Pfft.

~~~

*glam*
16-08-2004, 12:30 PM
mahaha :LOL: with Massive Attack? come on!!!
i can understand that Radiohead can sometimes sound quite depressing (and yes i am a Radiohead fan) but come on i mean to slit your wrists to it? naah youd have to be more depressed beforehand to do that.

Mezzanine is quite depressing

LittleMUSEalieN
16-08-2004, 12:35 PM
Mezzanine is quite depressing

hmm i dunno i dont quite find it slit ur wrist music for some reason.. just relaxing.
i like the Bjork lyrics in ur sig btw ;)

Kizer Sozie
16-08-2004, 01:40 PM
The Darkness
The Libertines
Snow Patrol
White Stripes
Iron Maiden :rolleyes:
Funeral for a Friend :rolleyes:
Keane
The Rolling Stones
The Killers
Stereophonics
Paddy Casey (Irish musician)
Morrissey
Pearl Jam
Silverchair
Razorlight
Hope of the States


i have too dissagree with the libertines choice and morrissey altough u are the quarry is overrated in my opinion

its weird i like nearly all those bands on that list but they are overrated

plus the stoned roses, the pixies(very good but very over rated)more or else the rest of the bands that ppl; r saying are overrated i agre wit

Mort
16-08-2004, 01:45 PM
My mate keeps telling me how shite Muse are and yet, today, he was blasting The Rasmus in the car and loving it...

the italian mafia
16-08-2004, 01:49 PM
the darkness
avater stealer :indiffere

Erroneous Fiend
16-08-2004, 01:56 PM
i think U2 and the chili peppers are overated.

oh and Iron Maiden, all their songs sound the same.

How To Be Dead
16-08-2004, 03:02 PM
Oh, this is one of those threads that people just name the bands they hate and don't want to be Publicized :rolleyes:
By god you say some orginal stuff, :rolleyes:.
I think elivis was/is over-rated.

1d10t
16-08-2004, 03:29 PM
RHCP,Hives,Iron maiden,White stripes and many more.....

JimJims
16-08-2004, 11:20 PM
i have too dissagree with the libertines choice and morrissey altough u are the quarry is overrated in my opinion

its weird i like nearly all those bands on that list but they are overrated

plus the stoned roses, the pixies(very good but very over rated)more or else the rest of the bands that ppl; r saying are overrated i agre wit

Meh its just my opinion.

I think there is hardly been a big band thats hasnt been mentioned really, so its gettin a bit stupid now.

musewax
17-08-2004, 09:26 AM
faithless
eminem
50cent
black eyed peas
papa roach
the darkness

Mort
17-08-2004, 12:08 PM
oh and Iron Maiden, all their songs sound the same.
You die now.

christoph
17-08-2004, 12:45 PM
(insert popular band name here)

Neil
17-08-2004, 12:46 PM
(insert popular band name here)

Muse? ;)

efseigosejgi

christoph
17-08-2004, 12:52 PM
Muse? ;)

efseigosejgi

Radiohead :p

Rasputin
17-08-2004, 02:00 PM
Radiohead.
Radiohead :p
EDIT: Oh, hi! :LOL:

TheInfamousCJ
21-08-2004, 08:11 PM
I am rather surprised no one has mentioned one of the most clearly overrated bands in history, the Doors! Everyone talks about the enigma Jim Morrison is but his music was mediocre at best, and people at the time knew so! In comparison Nirvana may be overrated due to the early death enigma but at least they were really good when Kurt was alive. Anyway some dishonorable mentions...

The Strokes (I don't want to hear too cool rich kids riding the retro train)
Axl Rose (just him, the rest of GnR and all of Velvet Revolver are great, Axl is just annoying)
Eminem (may be a good rapper, but antagonism is his only schtick)
Pearl Jam (I just can't STAND Eddie Cheddar's voice)
Jimmy Buffett (Why the hell does this guy keep on selling out these mondo venues!)

Fox Mulder
21-08-2004, 11:57 PM
Nirvana are the single most overated band of all time, no mistake

Hoppipolla
22-08-2004, 12:23 AM
Franz Ferdinand have gotten alot of undiserved respect for the album...

The Darkness, got loads and loads of positive remarks in 2003/4 for no reason. They're just so annoying. Music I just don't like.

U2. Mediocre. Boring. Average.

Metallica. Skaters - get...over...kirk.

Hoppipolla
22-08-2004, 12:27 AM
Morrissey is not over-rated. My personal choices for overratedness are Radiohead & Nirvana.....the end.

Morrissey's another one who is getting away with an ok album being said as brilliant... :indiffere Love the smiths though. And older stuff is good.

Radiohead, get everything they diserve. They've failed to make me say "why?" once...

Hoppipolla
22-08-2004, 12:29 AM
Nirvana were a good band and I've two frikkin t-shirts of them and everything but I'm afraid they're also over-rated.

Guns N Roses.
The Beatles.
AC/DC.

christoph
22-08-2004, 12:25 PM
Metallica. Skaters - get...over...kirk.

what's that supposed to mean? :confused:

sure, kirk aint the greatest guitarist ever, but he's still decent, and metallica have made some bloody epics. i don't care if they are crap now, they have made some excellent songs.

JimJims
22-08-2004, 01:54 PM
Nirvana were a good band and I've two frikkin t-shirts of them and everything but I'm afraid they're also over-rated.

Guns N Roses.
The Beatles.
AC/DC.

:indiffere You dont like many bands do you?

Hoppipolla
23-08-2004, 11:11 AM
:indiffere You dont like many bands do you?

Wrong. I like tonnes of bands. I dislike a fair bit too.
I like many over-rated bands.
So your point? I'm not getting it.

Hoppipolla
23-08-2004, 11:14 AM
what's that supposed to mean? :confused:

sure, kirk aint the greatest guitarist ever, but he's still decent, and metallica have made some bloody epics. i don't care if they are crap now, they have made some excellent songs.

Sooo many skaters think metallica are great even to this day and that they're the best band, ever, which means they are over-rated - they're not the best band ever. Which is what this topic is about... I'm not letting personal likings into account but I don't particulalrly like metallica.

If it was about bands I hated - Keane, Ash, The Hives, etc. would be down in a flash...

JimJims
23-08-2004, 06:03 PM
Wrong. I like tonnes of bands. I dislike a fair bit too.
I like many over-rated bands.
So your point? I'm not getting it.

The Beatles are not overrated. They were more talked about for what the members did then their music. Everybody thinks they are a novelty band (Yellow Submarine, Octopus Garden, I Am the Walrus etc.) but if you listen to a few albums you realise they were some fucking good musicians with songs and harmonies etc. and not any bad since has made as many memorable and fantastic songs.

With no Beatles you wouldnt have most bands nowadays.

Ril
23-08-2004, 07:25 PM
the venga boys
noo!!! they should make a comeback!

Hoppipolla
23-08-2004, 09:11 PM
The Beatles are not overrated. They were more talked about for what the members did then their music. Everybody thinks they are a novelty band (Yellow Submarine, Octopus Garden, I Am the Walrus etc.) but if you listen to a few albums you realise they were some fucking good musicians with songs and harmonies etc. and not any bad since has made as many memorable and fantastic songs.

With no Beatles you wouldnt have most bands nowadays.

I never said I didn't like them, but there are better bands that don't get as much recognition.
If it weren't for the beatles, we would.
Another band of the likes would of eventually came around with the concept.
I talk to you knowing you're only a teenager, but hear the same ol' ramblings of a biased 50 year old.

PS: I'd prefer if the world was a more inovative place, so influencial bands, don't mean an awful lot to me. But yes, i know they were needed some point of existance.

Sam
23-08-2004, 09:19 PM
Havent read the thread, but gotta say THE LIBERTINES!
My god, its bad, tuneless....and its not raw and edgey, or punk, its just poor.
Drugs fuck up music, the libertines are a case in point.
I suppose they are the most overated of the moment, but the most over rated of all time, is Nirvana.
They didnt change the world! If you beleive that, then you're on more crack than Kurt himself.

Sam
23-08-2004, 09:22 PM
what's that supposed to mean? :confused:

sure, kirk aint the greatest guitarist ever, but he's still decent, and metallica have made some bloody epics. i don't care if they are crap now, they have made some excellent songs.
No Leaf Clover ;)

Hoppipolla
23-08-2004, 09:26 PM
Havent read the thread, but gotta say THE LIBERTINES!
My god, its bad, tuneless....and its not raw and edgey, or punk, its just poor.
Drugs fuck up music, the libertines are a case in point.
I suppose they are the most overated of the moment, but the most over rated of all time, is Nirvana.
They didnt change the world! If you beleive that, then you're on more crack than Kurt himself.

You're saying the libertines are more over-rated than franz ferdinand?! At least they pulled off an entire album that's good.

The nirvana comment is quite ironic.

Sam
23-08-2004, 09:29 PM
You're saying the libertines are more over-rated than franz ferdinand?! At least they pulled off an entire album that's good.

The nirvana comment is quite ironic.
You see, Franz are bland to me, and are way overrated, but they are totally into pop realms, so i could list all pop "artists" like britney and that, so instead i stuck to the less mainstream stuff.

Hoppipolla
23-08-2004, 09:35 PM
You see, Franz are bland to me, and are way overrated, but they are totally into pop realms, so i could list all pop "artists" like britney and that, so instead i stuck to the less mainstream stuff.

So then your comment only applies to one genre. Fair enough.
I suppose some things aren't worth mentioning.
But they have a huge alternative fan-base.

JimJims
23-08-2004, 09:57 PM
I never said I didn't like them, but there are better bands that don't get as much recognition.
If it weren't for the beatles, we would.
Another band of the likes would of eventually came around with the concept.
I talk to you knowing you're only a teenager, but hear the same ol' ramblings of a biased 50 year old.

PS: I'd prefer if the world was a more inovative place, so influencial bands, don't mean an awful lot to me. But yes, i know they were needed some point of existance.

Ah ha i didnt say you didnt like them i was just saying how they are better than how most people see them. And whos to say that a band WOULD have come around with the concept? For all the bands that have tried to copy them not one has succeded.

And how do i sound like a biased 50 year old? Cause i am talking about an old band and why they are so good? Please explain yourself a bit more :rolleyes:

Caff
23-08-2004, 10:35 PM
Heh everyone has opinions and all that, see I personally think the first Libertines album is samey from the dull point of view [yes I own it] and think the Franz one is much better...even though yes many of their songs are fomularic...sorry..I'll stop being biased now!

theimpressiveclergyman
27-08-2004, 06:35 PM
Guns 'n' Roses
Nirvana
The Who
Primal Scream

ummagumma
27-08-2004, 07:00 PM
somebody once said that Jeff Buckley was over-rated, i laughed..... :LOL:

Hoppipolla
27-08-2004, 07:46 PM
Ah ha i didnt say you didnt like them i was just saying how they are better than how most people see them. And whos to say that a band WOULD have come around with the concept? For all the bands that have tried to copy them not one has succeded.

And how do i sound like a biased 50 year old? Cause i am talking about an old band and why they are so good? Please explain yourself a bit more :rolleyes:

I'm hearing a whole load of crap.
I'm not saying a band LIKE their music would come around, a band of such influencial natures would of came around. There was music before the beatles, you know. ;)

Yes, you did.

You said I didn't like much bands, in your first reply, I questioned why you said such a thing and the beatles post is what you replied with.

You're sticking up for music and using the whole "influencial" crap that a biased 50 year old would.

I don't think I do, you need to pay more attention.

Larsen B
27-08-2004, 08:49 PM
Overatedness? Nirvana easily, they may have changed whatever but still why do people still think Kurt was so great, he was good but people only remember him because he killed himself.
As for nowadays, Johnny Borrell's lot are not overrated as such, but people would have you believe that man's the saviour of songwriting..

ummagumma
27-08-2004, 09:00 PM
I do think that Nirvana were an overated... but that doesn’t mean that I disslike them, as i own most of their albums, some live stuff and various other things, and they actually made me bother to take an interest in music and the guitar....

as far as the Beatle's go, they were a great band who explored many different ideas and styles, their songs are really wonderful, but i dont really own much of their music, i have revolver which is a great album and i still love to see Paul McCartney perform live... as far as overatedness goes for the beatles goes though i am unsure because i am not hugely aware of the general scene around them at the time...

Rasputin
27-08-2004, 09:02 PM
For relaxed bands like The Hives, I think they're good if you just accept them at face value. If you realise they're not the most talented and just in for a bit of fun, I think they're good harmless fun.

Oh, and The Pixies are overrated - almost as much as Radiohead :mad:

JimJims
27-08-2004, 09:48 PM
I'm hearing a whole load of crap.
I'm not saying a band LIKE their music would come around, a band of such influencial natures would of came around. There was music before the beatles, you know. ;)

Yes, you did.

You said I didn't like much bands, in your first reply, I questioned why you said such a thing and the beatles post is what you replied with.

You're sticking up for music and using the whole "influencial" crap that a biased 50 year old would.

I don't think I do, you need to pay more attention.

You sound like a fucking moany, negative 40 year old. Everything you read that you post is usually just criticzing, as if you have something up ur arse.

There was music before the Beatles? God what a shock huh!! Boy is my face red.

So your saying a "biased 50 year old" talks about how older bands influence newer bands? Read magazines, listen to bands themselves......Muse- Smashing Pumpkins, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana etc. Jeff Buckley- Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, Nina Simone. Every band has some sort of influence on people whether be good or bad. Im not just making this up. Im passing on information.

I think you need to get whatever is up ur arse out :rolleyes:

Hoppipolla
27-08-2004, 09:51 PM
You sound like a fucking moany, negative 40 year old. Everything you read that you post is usually just criticzing, as if you have something up ur arse.

There was music before the Beatles? God what a shock huh!! Boy is my face red.

So your saying a "biased 50 year old" talks about how older bands influence newer bands? Read magazines, listen to bands themselves......Muse- Smashing Pumpkins, Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana etc. Jeff Buckley- Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, Nina Simone. Every band has some sort of influence on people whether be good or bad. Im not just making this up. Im passing on information.

I think you need to get whatever is up ur arse out :rolleyes:

If you'd kindly look back, you'd see that you made the comment, and you delved into this 'debate'.

What's up my arse, is quite frankly...

None. Of. Your. Bus-in-ess.

Nice talking to you. :happy:

JimJims
27-08-2004, 09:57 PM
If you'd kindly look back, you'd see that you made the comment, and you delved into this 'debate'.

What's up my arse, is quite frankly...

None. Of. Your. Bus-in-ess.

Nice talking to you. :happy:

Damn right it was none of my business, just thought id give ye a bit of advice though :happy:

Hoppipolla
27-08-2004, 09:59 PM
Damn right it was none of my business, just thought id give ye a bit of advice though :happy:

Well I'm hardly going to insert my hand into my anus and come out with some shitty hands just to prove you wrong.

JimJims
27-08-2004, 10:04 PM
Well I'm hardly going to insert my hand into my anus and come out with some shitty hands just to prove you wrong.

Em, right, em, do what you think best :happy:

theimpressiveclergyman
27-08-2004, 10:55 PM
Overatedness? Nirvana easily, they may have changed whatever but still why do people still think Kurt was so great, he was good but people only remember him because he killed himself.
As for nowadays, Johnny Borrell's lot are not overrated as such, but people would have you believe that man's the saviour of songwriting..

No, HE would have you believe that he's the saviour of songwriting... :rolleyes:

fortunes_fool
27-08-2004, 10:59 PM
going to get hate mail but have to say morrisey. dunno what all the fuss is about, tryed listening and ,oh ,wait still didnt get it!

JimJims
27-08-2004, 11:14 PM
going to get hate mail but have to say morrisey. dunno what all the fuss is about, tryed listening and ,oh ,wait still didnt get it!

Thats what i think as well :rolleyes:

Hoppipolla
28-08-2004, 12:10 AM
Morrissey is mostly for the average 'cool' 'rebellious' college students in england, the way I see it...

I like him, though. Love the smiths, from what i know of them.

Larsen B
28-08-2004, 12:14 AM
No, HE would have you believe that he's the saviour of songwriting... :rolleyes:

Well yeah, but then there are some who'll believe anything he says...and so on and so forth, nice music but he still wants a relationship with himself.

ummagumma
28-08-2004, 03:06 PM
when i said in front of my friends that I liked him they all wanted to kill me.....
oh well.........

Splinter
28-08-2004, 07:37 PM
Lenny Kravitz & The fuckin darkness... stupid hippies.

Mozza
28-08-2004, 08:52 PM
The darkness and the pixies, i don't get it. Everyone goes on about how great the pixies are but i don't feel it. The darkness should just go jump off a big rock

ummagumma
29-08-2004, 08:34 PM
oh yeh, i really dont like what i have heard of lenny kravits, i have heard the are you going to go my way album and the title track is alright, but basically copying hendrix, and the rest is just drivel......

Zachary
31-08-2004, 01:24 AM
It's not the band, but one person in the band that is overrated:

Tom Morelloverrated.

Larsen B
31-08-2004, 01:48 AM
It's not the band, but one person in the band that is overrated:

Tom Morelloverrated.

Hehe *applauds super pun* :LOL:

Simone
31-08-2004, 01:51 AM
It's not the band, but one person in the band that is overrated:

Tom Morelloverrated.

see zac! you ARE a genius :LOL: I told you you should post more :happy:

ummagumma
31-08-2004, 01:16 PM
tom morello, the riffs and solos are good, but i dont listen to him much...

buuuut some of the riffs just seem to ripp of led zeppelin too much.......

many years of feeling dead
31-08-2004, 09:08 PM
I can't believe nobody mentionned THE DARKNESS yet. Fuck they are bad.
i was soooooooooo pissed off wen the darkness won that brit award they only got 1 shit pop hit an they get all these bleedin awards all i dream of doin is shavin that taky hair of that leads he voice annoys me really bad

fleadude
19-09-2004, 09:42 PM
Morrisey (and the smiths goddamit)
Oasis
Limp Bizkit
Linkin Park
Outkast
Morrisey
snow patrol
keane
maroon 5
mcfly
busted
radiohead (just for Kid A really... everything else is sweet, apart from pablo honey)
Morrisey
metallica
fear factory
iron maiden
new found glory
morrisey
Simple plan
the darkness
g'n'r
Probot (for about a week)
morrisey
the ramones
sex pistols
the clash
led zepplin
bb king
elvis
morrisey
the beach boys
lenny kravitz
red hot chili peppers (just recently though)
the beatles
Morrisey

Theres a few more... but i cant think of them at the moment... also i dont wanna offend anyone.

oh and morrisey

suki
20-09-2004, 01:14 AM
Morrisey (and the smiths goddamit)
Oasis
Limp Bizkit
Linkin Park
Outkast
Morrisey
snow patrol
keane
maroon 5
mcfly
busted
radiohead (just for Kid A really... everything else is sweet, apart from pablo honey)
Morrisey
metallica
fear factory
iron maiden
new found glory
morrisey
Simple plan
the darkness
g'n'r
Probot (for about a week)
morrisey
the ramones
sex pistols
the clash
led zepplin
bb king
elvis
morrisey
the beach boys
lenny kravitz
red hot chili peppers (just recently though)
the beatles
Morrisey

Theres a few more... but i cant think of them at the moment... also i dont wanna offend anyone.

oh and morrisey
That made me laugh for some reason.

Psycho
20-09-2004, 01:28 AM
g'n'r
metallica
sex pistols

come on man...each band up there is a huge musical influence.

i say...

The Darkness, Linkin Park...cant think of more..

Mort
23-09-2004, 01:58 PM
Fleadude I agree with you on everything except Iron Maiden and Led Zepplin.

hyperheart
23-09-2004, 08:57 PM
U2

they are farther from being all that than they are from actually being bad

I TOTALLY AGREE. no one understands why I think U2 are really not that great. It really annoys me.

amuser
19-10-2004, 07:59 AM
jet, the vines, all those crappy new aussie bands

Gibby
19-10-2004, 08:14 AM
This is all very indie post 2003 specific. I mean, Jet & Razorlight are totally sheng, but the most over-rated band of ALL TIME?

That particular award would have to go to U2. Some people will disagree, some will say 'well, they had some good early albums' - NO THEY DID NOT. They have half a good song in 'I Will Follow'. And that's it. Nothing they have ever done in a 27 year career has made me want to purchase it - and I'll buy any old crap! I hate Bono. I hate their music. I am just in awe at how they get away with it, frankly.

Vindaloo Curry
19-10-2004, 08:44 AM
jet, the vines, all those crappy new aussie bands


Good to see we have a true patriot here with us.

But i do agree with the jet bit. Jet are truely overated.
I also believe the darkness is overated and linkin park and evenescence

I have a whole list i could give you, but i'd be here forever and no one wants to read something that long

ghetto_game
26-10-2004, 09:37 PM
Yes! Definately Elvis! Overated and talentless! I've found the post I can say it in! Does no one else think Elvis is just poor?

Sarah
26-10-2004, 09:38 PM
Better & more relevent to the music industry than The Beatles ever were.

Larsen B
26-10-2004, 09:45 PM
Elvis, talentless?!

ghetto_game
26-10-2004, 09:47 PM
Shite guitarist (no-one can deny that!) nowhere near as good a blues singer as Robert Johnson, nowhere near as much a Rock'n'Roll inovator as Buddy Holly, didn't even write his own songs. In short, the worlds first fabricated pop star. To give him some credit, he can move his hips, but then so does J-Lo

Sarah
26-10-2004, 09:50 PM
He had the voice, face & hips to create the pop phenomenan.

Larsen B
26-10-2004, 09:53 PM
He never meant to be Robert Johnson though, Johnson was a blues man, Elvis was the white crossover. Plus he could do the dances as well as the singing which is a bit more than Britney I guess.
I agree he's teeny bit overrated by many people but I wouldn't have said he was talentless. Even just for being the first pop star he should be commended.

ghetto_game
26-10-2004, 09:53 PM
True (maybe not the voice though), although i personally wouldn't say that that is enough to get him the credibility he seems to have...or an automatic place into the UK musichall of fame alongside U2 and Madonna(wtf?!).

ghetto_game
26-10-2004, 09:54 PM
He never meant to be Robert Johnson though, Johnson was a blues man, Elvis was the white crossover. Plus he could do the dances as well as the singing which is a bit more than Britney I guess.
I agree he's teeny bit overrated by many people but I wouldn't have said he was talentless. Even just for being the first pop star he should be commended.

Maybe that's why I dislike him so much! Also, I think that guys like Buddy Holly and Johnny Cash live in his shadow which seems insane considering they did it all themselves, at to a much higher standard, the only thing they lack is his looks.

Sarah
26-10-2004, 09:55 PM
His voice may not have been anything similar to a choir boy, no. But then it shows a pretty shallow appreciation of music if you expect a voice to be perfect. His voice was unique & he COULD sing.

Personally, I don't think U2 deserve any recognition. They never did anything new. Madonna, on the other hand, has done a lot. People forget that there were very few female acts that big at the time.

Larsen B
26-10-2004, 09:57 PM
Maybe that's why I dislike him so much! Also, I think that guys like Buddy Holly and Johnny Cash live in his shadow which seems insane considering they did it all themselves, at to a much higher standard, the only thing they lack is his looks.

Yes, but that's always going to happen in popular music. The image and the music go hand in hand and Elvis was probably the first to implement it.

ghetto_game
26-10-2004, 10:00 PM
I suppose, maybe I am being a little shallow. Still I really resent all the attention he gets for achieving so little. I agree, U2, also overhyped. Still unsure about Madonna.

Larsen B
26-10-2004, 10:02 PM
I'm undecided on U2, their worldwide status was nothing new but undoubtedly my mum will justify their legendary status for me. :LOL:

Sarah
26-10-2004, 10:05 PM
You're probably feeling what I feel for The Beatles. But Elvis set the path for almost everything. He made the music industry into the multi-billion pound industry it is today.

Madonna, as I said, was a female solo artist that set new boundaries. That not all women have to sing like things like Tina Turner or Whitney Houston did.

Mort
27-10-2004, 01:58 PM
You're probably feeling what I feel for The Beatles. But Elvis set the path for almost everything. He made the music industry into the multi-billion pound industry it is today.

Still shit though.

Sarah
27-10-2004, 02:07 PM
I suppose if you want to look at his back catalogue without taking into consideration who he affected & what it meant at the time as well as how these tracks are still played forty years later. Meh. Be blinkered if you want to be.

Mort
27-10-2004, 02:12 PM
I suppose if you want to look at his back catalogue without taking into consideration who he affected & what it meant at the time as well as how these tracks are still played forty years later. Meh. Be blinkered if you want to be.
Thats the whole point of being overrated. So many people listen to him and put him down as being an insperation. But when I try and listen to him I think "Meh, its nothing special."

Sarah
27-10-2004, 02:20 PM
I think the media ruin acts over the years. If no one said 'omg they is so ace' & just gave you a few things to listen to instead to form your own opinion perhaps you would see how ace he is.

Ollie of Symmetry
27-10-2004, 02:20 PM
The most obverated band is gonna have to be 'The Libertines 'aka' Babyshambles :mad:

There both shit, god knows why so many people like em :confused:

ghetto_game
27-10-2004, 08:22 PM
Oh God, you actually bothered to do it, you prize cunt!

Well, you told me about the post, gave me your opinion and gave me the exact link, it would be hard to ignore such an offer.

ghetto_game
27-10-2004, 08:26 PM
I suppose if you want to look at his back catalogue without taking into consideration who he affected & what it meant at the time as well as how these tracks are still played forty years later. Meh. Be blinkered if you want to be.

But he wrote....one song?! And even that, he didn't write the tune to, Love me Tender is taken from "Aura Lea" an old folk song, maybe his songs are half decent, but that has nothing to do with him. That's what annoys me, anything positive about Elvis is the product of someone else, his songs, his ideas, (his hair?!). I'm still not sure if he deserves even a quarter of the credibility he gets. You're right though, his talent lies in exploitation, he was the first.

Sarah
27-10-2004, 08:35 PM
The term 'Elvis Presley' is not the man born of that name. I think people get confused with this. Just like 'David Bowie' is not the man but the man & his band. Yes Elvis had a writer & a band. But he still performed these songs impeccably. He still gave it a sound that was it's own. No one sang the songs for him & how do you know how much input he had with Colonel whatshisface? You don't know! He never exploited anyone & the fact remains that 'Elvis Presley', whether it be the man or the act, is a true talent.

ghetto_game
27-10-2004, 08:50 PM
By exploitation, I mean he exploited the media, used his looks to his advantage and only projected a possitive image(obviously understandable), what I'm saying is that the image that he projected (especially considering he didn't write the songs or play any lead instruments or sing that well) wasn't a great one.

p.s. I'm actually genuinely impressed that this hasn't turned aggresive(as things frequently do on the board) especially given your obvious liking of Presley, I'm just saying my personal opinion as well. :D

Sarah
27-10-2004, 09:07 PM
Everyone exploits the media. It's in the interest of any act hoping to make a living out of selling pieces of vinyl to as many people as they can! If he had the looks then good for him! Image is an intergral part of popular music culture. The image he projected was one of a 'sex god'. That's all. He wasn't a vocally sound crooner. He wasn't a guitar god. He stood on that stage & made women faint. Surely you need some talent to do that? The whole Elvis 'team' achieved this. & he didn't have a good role model image anyway, he brought sex into the equation.

As for me liking Elvis, I do. But I don't love the man. I just appreciate what he's done for everyone.

Truth_and_Smiles
28-10-2004, 12:04 AM
AC/DC, Aerosmith, Bon Jovi and lenny kravitz and are bands/people I find to be hugely overrated. They're lyrics are unremarkable, they don't write groundbreaking music, and just don't seem to be 'special' enough to deserve their huge following. Bastards :p

Metallica are obviously overrated; I am yet to find an album of theirs worth actually buying. Every strong track seems to be matched by a lazy piece of crap :P On the other hand, they have produced some stunningly good songs in their time, and One and Master of Puppets will be put on my play lists forever.

The Darkness is obvious, but by the same token we have to list all pop music as "overrated". No real music fan takes this kinda stuff seriously; so hating them seems a bit OTT.

As for other newer stuff, Jet and Keane have been pissing me off recently.

Beatles are overrated by those who insist on playing whole albums by them to mates, as a LOT of their music doesn't stand the test of time.
BUT, they changed the whole of music and did some excellent songs while they were at it, and Let It Be is one of my favourite tracks ever. So I guess the respect they get is reasonable...

And although they're not overrated at all (rarely spoken of in fact), currently Biffy Clyro are annoying me a lot, as everyone around here thinks they're absolutely amazing. They're good....but not ''better-then-muse'' good... :rolleyes:

Mort
28-10-2004, 11:00 AM
I think the media ruin acts over the years. If no one said 'omg they is so ace' & just gave you a few things to listen to instead to form your own opinion perhaps you would see how ace he is.
My mum has an LP of his around somewhere. I've listend to it a couple of times. I'm not a fan.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 02:27 PM
If I haven't said franz - I should.
Franz.
And...
muse... lately.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 02:30 PM
AC/DC, Aerosmith, Bon Jovi and lenny kravitz and are bands/people I find to be hugely overrated. They're lyrics are unremarkable, they don't write groundbreaking music, and just don't seem to be 'special' enough to deserve their huge following. Bastards :p

Metallica are obviously overrated; I am yet to find an album of theirs worth actually buying. Every strong track seems to be matched by a lazy piece of crap :P On the other hand, they have produced some stunningly good songs in their time, and One and Master of Puppets will be put on my play lists forever.

The Darkness is obvious, but by the same token we have to list all pop music as "overrated". No real music fan takes this kinda stuff seriously; so hating them seems a bit OTT.

As for other newer stuff, Jet and Keane have been pissing me off recently.

Beatles are overrated by those who insist on playing whole albums by them to mates, as a LOT of their music doesn't stand the test of time.
BUT, they changed the whole of music and did some excellent songs while they were at it, and Let It Be is one of my favourite tracks ever. So I guess the respect they get is reasonable...

And although they're not overrated at all (rarely spoken of in fact), currently Biffy Clyro are annoying me a lot, as everyone around here thinks they're absolutely amazing. They're good....but not ''better-then-muse'' good... :rolleyes:

What?! Biffy Clyro are good, and Muse are too. But Muse are way more over-rated, nationwide. And here, you're looking for the biffy fans, because I don't see all that much raving about them. Plus, lately, I think they're better.

Pajoon
28-10-2004, 02:39 PM
AC/DC, Aerosmith, Bon Jovi and lenny kravitz and are bands/people I find to be hugely overrated. They're lyrics are unremarkable, they don't write groundbreaking music, and just don't seem to be 'special' enough to deserve their huge following. Bastards :p

Metallica are obviously overrated; I am yet to find an album of theirs worth actually buying. Every strong track seems to be matched by a lazy piece of crap :P On the other hand, they have produced some stunningly good songs in their time, and One and Master of Puppets will be put on my play lists forever.


Is Lenny Kravitz really rated as anything other than a poor man's Hendrix?
As for Metallica, I don't understand you can't say they're overrated! They were regarded as one of the best heavy metal bands in the world up to the release of the latest album, and rightly so. Their first 4 or 5 albums are almost faultless.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 02:41 PM
Is Lenny Kravitz really rated as anything other than a poor man's Hendrix?
As for Metallica, I don't understand you can't say they're overrated! They were regarded as one of the best heavy metal bands in the world up to the release of the latest album, and rightly so. Their first 4 or 5 albums are almost faultless.

The last eleven years have sucked, actually. Some OK songs doesn't cut it. They're completley over-rated, and in my opinion - also very boring.

Pajoon
28-10-2004, 02:46 PM
The last eleven years have sucked, actually. Some OK songs doesn't cut it. They're completley over-rated, and in my opinion - also very boring.

Not true. S&M came out in 1999, and that's a class album. And if you're going to be pedantic and say some OK songs doesn't cut it, give me the name of a band who've never put a musical foot wrong?

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 02:48 PM
Not true. S&M came out in 1999, and that's a class album. And if you're going to be pedantic and say some OK songs doesn't cut it, give me the name of a band who've never put a musical foot wrong?

I said the few good songs that they have, don't cut it for me. A few bad songs is alright.

That's boring, shit and mainstream. Bleh. They're just the new cool.

Pajoon
28-10-2004, 02:52 PM
I said the few good songs that they have, don't cut it for me. A few bad songs is alright.

That's boring, shit and mainstream. Bleh. They're just the new cool.

No, you said: "Some OK songs doesn't cut it" And you really should have picked a band you knew about to discuss. How the hell are they the NEW cool? As I said, if anything, their latest album has made them less loved by critics and fans alike.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 02:54 PM
No, you said: "Some OK songs doesn't cut it" And you really should have picked a band you knew about to discuss. How the hell are they the NEW cool? As I said, if anything, their latest album has made them less loved by critics and fans alike.

Yes. Which meant that the songs that are ok, don't do it for me.

Metallica aren't my cup of tea. I think their music is boring, and lately also shite. Therefore I think they're over-rated. Now. Do me a favour. Shut up.

Paul
28-10-2004, 02:57 PM
Coldplay are bloody superb.

Overrated for me:

The Strokes
The Killers
Kasabian
Lostprohets

Pajoon
28-10-2004, 02:57 PM
Yes. Which meant that the songs that are ok, don't do it for me.

Metallica aren't my cup of tea. I think their music is boring, and lately also shite. Therefore I think they're over-rated. Now. Do me a favour. Shut up.

If you'll look back, you actually replied to me. And anyway, I probably would have shut up if you'd said that in the first place, but you stated things as fact and not an opinion. All I was doing was correcting your wrongness.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 02:58 PM
Coldplay are bloody superb.

Overrated for me:

The Strokes
The Killers
Kasabian
Lostprohets

Well... Kasabian really are. Even though I like them. And there is no doubt about the others minus the strokes. Funnily enough, I've been brought up with everyone hating the strokes around me. But in America - hell yes. But I do like Kasabian and The Strokes. The Killers can be alright, but Lost prophets. Ugh.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 02:59 PM
If you'll look back, you actually replied to me. And anyway, I probably would have shut up if you'd said that in the first place, but you stated things as fact and not an opinion. All I was doing was correcting your wrongness.

Edit: I was only expecting a minor disagreement.
Do I have to add 'in my opinion' to every fuckin' post I make. It's implied. My words - my opinion.

Pajoon
28-10-2004, 03:03 PM
I wasn't expecting a disagreement.
Do I have to add 'in my opinion' to every fuckin' post I make. It's implied. My words - my opinion.

You started the disagreement you fucking tard. And yes, you really should, other people seem to without any problem.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 03:04 PM
You started the disagreement you fucking tard. And yes, you really should, other people seem to without any problem.

I edited that just before you made that post. ;)
And if you're too moronic to see that my words are coming from me - my opinion, then that's your problem.

Pajoon
28-10-2004, 03:07 PM
I edited that just before you made that post. ;)
And if you're too moronic to see that my words are coming from me - my opinion, then that's your problem.

It's not really a problem, because I've got nothing else to do, if I did I wouldn't be an Internet message board, would I? So I might as well bring you up on your faults. Anyway, I'm bored now, I'll go find more wrongs to right.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 03:08 PM
It's not really a problem, because I've got nothing else to do, if I did I wouldn't be an Internet message board, would I? So I might as well bring you up on your faults. Anyway, I'm bored now.

Yeah, me too. That was all quite pointless.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 03:09 PM
It's not really a problem, because I've got nothing else to do, if I did I wouldn't be an Internet message board, would I? So I might as well bring you up on your faults. Anyway, I'm bored now, I'll go find more wrongs to right.
find other people, please. *exits*

Sarah
28-10-2004, 05:08 PM
Coldplay are bloody superb.

Overrated for me:

The Strokes
The Killers
Kasabian
Lostprohets

So true. Add Franz in there. Strokes weren't pre-Room On Fire & Kasabian lost it over the summer.

Caff
28-10-2004, 05:42 PM
Kasabian are VERY overrated. Even though I like them...but god they're not amazing or revolutionary or anything.

Sarah
28-10-2004, 07:42 PM
Definately. Nice enough. Just nothing new or special at all.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 07:44 PM
Add Franz in there. Strokes weren't pre-Room On Fire & Kasabian lost it over the summer.

Hmm agreed. Franz have been over-rated ever since 'take me out' was released. Even though I liked that song.

Sarah
28-10-2004, 07:46 PM
Hmm agreed. Franz have been over-rated ever since 'take me out' was released. Even though I liked that song.

Aye. I half liked that & Shopping For Blood. That's it.

Bexie
28-10-2004, 07:46 PM
Keane.
Why? They are utter shite.
Sorry if this offends you, have a go at my sig if it does :D

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 07:47 PM
Keane.
Why? They are utter shite.
Sorry if this offends you, have a go at my sig if it does :D

Heh. Keane have a major hate-base though. So many people think they're "liek so unkul"
I hate keane. Especially the main guy, just to add in.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 07:49 PM
Aye. I half liked that & Shopping For Blood. That's it.

Mm. I liked take me out and Jacqueline. Is all. Jacqueline is just fun, for when I'm in the mood.

Sarah
28-10-2004, 07:52 PM
Heh. Keane have a major hate-base though. So many people think they're "liek so unkul"
I hate keane. Especially the main guy, just to add in.

God knows why they do. They are so bland that it's bizarre they provoke a reaction other than severe apathy.

Caff
28-10-2004, 07:53 PM
Hmm agreed. Franz have been over-rated ever since 'take me out' was released. Even though I liked that song.

That's not really their fault. It's a shame Darts of Pleasure was ignored because I think that song is far superior but the media jumped on the TMO bandwagon.

Although yes as much as I love them, they're overrated.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 08:59 PM
That's not really their fault. It's a shame Darts of Pleasure was ignored because I think that song is far superior but the media jumped on the TMO bandwagon.

Although yes as much as I love them, they're overrated.

Darts of pleasure and all the other songs minus take me out and jacqueline, i think, are boring.

gilly
28-10-2004, 09:11 PM
all the crappy indie bands that NME bum are definately overrated. no offence to anyone who actually likes bands such as franz ferdinand and the libertines etc etc. it pisses me off tho when people only like a band because they're famous/fashionable

Caff
28-10-2004, 09:37 PM
I like Franz because their music makes me happy...not cos NME said so. Plus they're nice guys...just a shame their band is overhyped to fuck.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 09:38 PM
I like Franz because their music makes me happy...not cos NME said so. Plus they're nice guys...just a shame their band is overhyped to fuck.

And boring. :p

markofled
28-10-2004, 09:43 PM
U2 are the most overated and the Darness!

I hate all those bands that seem to come out at the same time and sound kinda similar last yr is was the coral and the thrills this yr its snow patrol, Keane and hoobastink. thay all kinda suck. Oh and i dnt like Stincubus.

Sarah
28-10-2004, 09:50 PM
The Coral didn't come out last year. They have been around since 2001 & that's just with their label.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 09:51 PM
The Coral didn't come out last year. They have been around since 2001 & that's just with their label.

Mm Yeah. And Snow Patrol came out err... 1999... again on label.

The Nargmaster
28-10-2004, 09:55 PM
Couldn't be bothered to read 15 pages....

But easily the most over-rated band are the Darkness. Easily.

Caff
28-10-2004, 10:17 PM
And boring. :p

Hahah your opinion.

To be honest I'm more in love with one of Alex's old bands more than Franz at the moment. At least it was something a little different.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 10:21 PM
Hahah your opinion.

To be honest I'm more in love with one of Alex's old bands more than Franz at the moment. At least it was something a little different.
Well...they're not that exciting. Meet me half way?

Caff
28-10-2004, 10:23 PM
Oh I think I've said before in this very thread they're nothing new, and unless you like them they're quite dull! I happen to be in the "like them" camp, but unlike most fans can accept they've got more hype than their music deserves BUT then again I think they deserve the success because they haven't got ego problems...unlike some overrated bands.

Hoppipolla
28-10-2004, 10:26 PM
Oh I think I've said before in this very thread they're nothing new, and unless you like them they're quite dull! I happen to be in the "like them" camp, but unlike most fans can accept they've got more hype than their music deserves BUT then again I think they deserve the success because they haven't got ego problems...unlike some overrated bands.
Well, I think they're growing. The killers egos need to be shot about seven dozen million times to make them somewhat bareable. Eugh!
But they do look more and more cocky by the minute. Soon they'll think they're the revulotionaires of rock'n'roll. \m/ Party on 2005/6.
G'night.

Paul
28-10-2004, 10:56 PM
Agree with Cath that FF are perhaps a bit overrated.

However, that doesn't stop them from having probably the best album I've bought in a long time. Every track is brilliant. Not since Coldplay's last effort can I say that I can listen to the full album without any desire to skip a track (except for Clocks, which I don't like but can appreciate as a good track :) )

Caff
28-10-2004, 11:00 PM
I can listen to the album all the way through and not get bored. It's my best buy of this year. Sometimes skip Cheating On You though.

The Kid
28-10-2004, 11:14 PM
Radiohead
Nirvana
Guns and Roses
Keane

Hoppipolla
29-10-2004, 09:36 AM
I can listen to the album all the way through and not get bored. It's my best buy of this year. Sometimes skip Cheating On You though.

Bought Hope of the States? I listen to all of that without a skip.

Hoppipolla
29-10-2004, 09:37 AM
Radiohead
Nirvana
Guns and Roses
Keane



OK. Someone seeing radiohead as over-rated, I don't usually care, but putting them in a list with those. Ugh.

Larsen B
31-10-2004, 08:36 PM
Is Lenny Kravitz really rated as anything other than a poor man's Hendrix?
.

He's the conservative, less revolutionary and more wank version of him yes. :D

The Nargmaster
01-11-2004, 06:22 PM
Explain please how radiohead are over-rated. You've got 5 minutes.

Mozza
01-11-2004, 06:29 PM
I have to say, I don't think The Killers have ego problems and I do really like their album. Razorlight are a band that I thought would have a really good album but I found it somewhat average

Hoppipolla
01-11-2004, 07:44 PM
I have to say, I don't think The Killers have ego problems and I do really like their album. Razorlight are a band that I thought would have a really good album but I found it somewhat average

Not the killers, just Brandon.

ghetto_game
01-11-2004, 07:48 PM
At last! Yes, Razorlight and Franz Ferdinand! Overhyped/Overrated. Oh, I agree, wossisface about your list, but how did Radiohead make there way in?!

Hoppipolla
01-11-2004, 07:56 PM
At last! Yes, Razorlight and Franz Ferdinand! Overhyped/Overrated. Oh, I agree, wossisface about your list, but how did Radiohead make there way in?!
Magdalena! :p

theimpressiveclergyman
01-11-2004, 08:10 PM
Franz Ferdinand.
I am indeed in the "like them" category, but still... They're not life-changing.
Just a fun band, innit.

Sarah
01-11-2004, 10:09 PM
I have to say, I don't think The Killers have ego problem

I agree, they are just shit.

Caff
01-11-2004, 10:19 PM
They can't be as bad as the Kills for being shite, although...similar names...similar quality of music!

Sarah
01-11-2004, 10:22 PM
They're shite too, aye. Although they aren't aped by every emo-er in the country. No one apes The Kills. ;)

Caff
01-11-2004, 10:25 PM
Within good reason hahaha. They are PAINFUL to watch. The first support act for Franz was really funny and got everyone in the mood...the Kills lived up to their name and made most people look like they were at a funeral...never mind a Franz gig!

And the woman was so pissed at the aftershow, she nearly clattered Michelle, me and Esther about three times!

Sarah
01-11-2004, 10:33 PM
Hotel or VV or something. Gah. Cunt. Although Bob Log is so ace. I love that man & his music.. wow.

Caff
01-11-2004, 10:36 PM
Even though he gets a lot of laughs [understandably] I am actually amazed at how good he was with guitar..while drumming with his feet at the same time as well! Funny guy, funny songs too!

Sarah
01-11-2004, 10:50 PM
Hahah. Yeah! At first it is 'wtf'. Then it's ':O' as he plays slide guitar with a girl on each knee & playing the drums. Shame the rumour that he was one of the Strokes isn't true!

Caff
01-11-2004, 10:55 PM
Yeah he was at the aftershow too...so ruins the illusion when you see him without his costume haha!

The Sweedish girls on his knees were filming us :s.

Hoppipolla
01-11-2004, 10:59 PM
Lately, I see the Killers as being more of an uncool thing to like anyway. :indiff: They really just aren't THAT good, and get far too much attention.

Sarah
01-11-2004, 11:17 PM
They're ugly too.

Mort
02-11-2004, 02:24 PM
Fecking ABBA! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

ghetto_game
02-11-2004, 03:12 PM
The Smiths....and Duran duran and Bon Jovi, especially Bon Jovi

abi
02-11-2004, 03:20 PM
Within good reason hahaha. They are PAINFUL to watch. The first support act for Franz was really funny and got everyone in the mood...the Kills lived up to their name and made most people look like they were at a funeral...never mind a Franz gig!


Yes, the Kills were very painful to watch. They are shite.

I don't think Razorlight are overrated. They are brilliant live.

As for Franz, they're only overrated if you take them too seriously. I just think they're a fun band, not life changing or anything though.

Pajoon
02-11-2004, 03:23 PM
I don't think Razorlight are overrated. They are brilliant live.


On a Razorlight related point, they've fucked up the re-release of 'Rip It Up' royally, no?

abi
02-11-2004, 03:27 PM
On a Razorlight related point, they've fucked up the re-release of 'Rip It Up' royally, no?

Erm, I haven't actually heard it yet :unsure:

Larsen B
02-11-2004, 09:41 PM
Razorlight are overrated.
They sound like the Libertines would if they ever thought about production, which is a bad thing by the way....and Borrell is a King K-nut.

Darkshines
02-11-2004, 11:05 PM
don't kill me greenday fans, but i think they are sooo overrated. They sound like the typical whiny american rock group, and i don't like most of their songs..only american idiot seems ok...and as for their new one, something Dreams Boulavard...i don't really like it that much...reminds me of an avril lavigne song..the one called "happy ending" or something..you know, the "uh uhh uh uh" part?? the beat's also pretty boring in my opinion..generally, i don't really even like american music..UK music is the greatest :D anyways, that's just MY opinion..i know most of you people probably disagree with me, but meh, whatever...

Teh Man v1.2
03-11-2004, 02:26 PM
personally,i think people who say bands like nirvana and radiohead are shite need to stop being so superficial and open their minds more...

Larsen B
03-11-2004, 02:31 PM
That in itself, is a narrow minded statement.

€ngel
03-11-2004, 02:37 PM
The most overrated band is Metallica. All the songs that became hits were either written by dave mustaine or stolen (like nothing else matters). Pah!