The Strokes

[Muse*Rule]

Who here likes the Strokes?

I saw them live in November and Julian crowd-surfed right above me. They were great live. :D

Have you seen their new video for 'reptillia' its great!

Isn't Juian yummy.

[4Q Im Manx]

first album good
second album not so good. infact shite.

[Keys]

first album wasnt too bad actually, havent heard much of the second, but all thier songs sound too similar

[moodicow]

Seen a lot of the first album in 2nd hand bargain shops.................

[I_Like_Muse]

first album good
second album not so good. infact shite.

first album - okay, here's something almost different and almost good
second album - same as the first therefore, wazdapoint

[adamirl]

strokes suck, i like reptillia, a bit, the rest of their songs are crap tho
my girlfriend dragged me to see em live tho, they bored me there 2
waste of space!

[Nancuk]

Find them really boring. Saw them live and thought it was ok cause the singer just kept doing stupid stuff which kept me entertained.

[Magdalena]

I used to like them...God knows why i bought their second album, i haven't listened to it once :S

[Larsen B]

i like the first one, havent heard all the second but i like Reptilia and 12:51 and they do sound similar to the first album, i'll probably end up buying the second one day but it's not my number one album to buy quite yet...

[Nancuk]

I have changed my mind. The stokes are good.

[BurgerQueen]

Red Retro T-shirt right up your street
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3910600304

[killer queen]

I find them really boring...most of their songs sound the same so far... though I sort of enjoy Reptilia, but the rest is mostly crap...

[BurgerQueen]

I find them really boring...most of their songs sound the same so far... though I sort of enjoy Reptilia, but the rest is mostly crap...
It dont mean the t-shirt isnt cool
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3910600304&category=53010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1

[YellowSphere]

i want a "they're okay option" i wouldn't want to answer yes or no but i want to vote, considering i have to wait 4 years to vote in something of general consequence

[Sarah]

Fucking immense.

[killer queen]

It dont mean the t-shirt isnt cool
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3910600304&category=53010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1

a friend of mine has the same one but in black... that red one looks good but the black one I have to say it looks DAMN COOL, still I don't like them...lol

[BurgerQueen]

a friend of mine has the same one but in black... that red one looks good but the black one I have to say it looks DAMN COOL, still I don't like them...lol

Yeah black goes with more
But red well, red is the colour of lurve
so bid for the t-shirt people, whether u like the strokesy's or not!

[Carlos]

yea there boaring, but also bloody anoying.

there the kind o band that u could liike if u tryed hard, but wats the point in that , there standable, but it jus seems to me like music 4 the sake of it.

[kobain]

who's with me?

[Keys]

the who?

[kobain]

ok i spelt it wrong.

they rule! and the libertines! and the zutons!...it would seem i only like bands with 'the' at the beggining eh?

Nirvana!

[shackadeema]

i love the strokes theyre really good

[kobain]

im forever in their debt for spelling it wrong.

[LikelyLass]

Theres already a thread for them here that you can post on: http://board.muse.mu/showthread.php?t=608

[Hoppipolla]

i like the end has no end... a lot

[Shotdown]

WOAAAAAAAAH! :cool:

Strokes new song, what a bass line, what a different sound completely, no more dull unclear vocals. now clear, loud and agressive. Reminds me a bit of NIN...but thats just me :happy:

[Puffskein]

WOAAAAAAAAH! :cool:

Strokes new song, what a bass line, what a different sound completely, no more dull unclear vocals. now clear, loud and agressive. Reminds me a bit of NIN...but thats just me :happy:

Hell yeah! =D Love it! The chorus sounds like The Bends or something lol.

[christoph]

What's the new song called?

[Ril]

Juicebox. It's not one of my favourites, but it's not bad. I'm happy they're trying new stuff and not just churning out the same sound.

[Bexie]

Love it love it love it. <3.

[daveh]

they've had a few good songs, 12:51, Reptilia, Someday, Last Nite and this new one sounds pretty cool but otherwise they're wank

[Bexie]

Room on fire. Meh.
Is this it. Yay!

[Clunge]

Can't stand them any more, so generic :rolleyes:

[carole]

their new song's really good.. *methinks

[Bewilders]

I used to think they was shit because the julian sounded like he was singing half sleep but ive grown to like them now :)

[Kazuya vs Ummagumma]

Can't stand them any more, so generic :rolleyes:
So generic because every other band has tried to copy them. Usually very poorly.

Personally, I think they're one of the most influencial bands around. Nobody had heard of anything like them when they first came into the scene, now that simple-ish catchy style of music is being mutated everywhere...only everyone else is shit.

I just downloaded the opening track from the new album..it's splendid. Much better than Juicebox.

[kiernana]

i agree, the strokes were the first ones out of the bag, so they sort of got drowned out by the rest that followed.

i heard Juicebox recently and it's different, in a good way. nice to see them trying new things. i'd be interested in hearing the new album, thats for sure.

i was reading my NME and found some interesting things:
"...listen carefully and you'll uncover all sorts of weird and wonderful influences, from Magnetic Fields and the Pogues to - we shit you not- Muse (check Vision of Division's spiralling choruses)."
"Nick claims that the sounds of Muse, SOAD and AC/DC all contributed to the meatier guitar parts..."

should be interesting as the Strokes also seem to have influenced Matt a bit.

[Puffskein]

Pst. Here's one of the Muse-inspired tracks. It's from a radio session where they played a few tracks... They haven't finished mixing so there's going to be quite a difference on the official release.

Vision Of Division (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0KNKJBA5ISULZ0P25PMC9TUT9C)

It'll grow on you.

[Vara]

i agree, the strokes were the first ones out of the bag, so they sort of got drowned out by the rest that followed.

i heard Juicebox recently and it's different, in a good way. nice to see them trying new things. i'd be interested in hearing the new album, thats for sure.

i was reading my NME and found some interesting things:
"...listen carefully and you'll uncover all sorts of weird and wonderful influences, from Magnetic Fields and the Pogues to - we shit you not- Muse (check Vision of Division's spiralling choruses)."
"Nick claims that the sounds of Muse, SOAD and AC/DC all contributed to the meatier guitar parts..."

should be interesting as the Strokes also seem to have influenced Matt a bit.
even for the haircut:http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b101/agnosticvara/nickvsmatt.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b101/agnosticvara/mattvsnick.jpg
by the way, there is a "secret" strokes gig in paris on Saturday...:rolleyes:

[Bexie]

Pst. Here's one of the Muse-inspired tracks. It's from a radio session where they played a few tracks... They haven't finished mixing so there's going to be quite a difference on the official release.

Vision Of Division (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0KNKJBA5ISULZ0P25PMC9TUT9C)

It'll grow on you.
You.Are.A.Legend.
:D

[moocow]

there ACE and
w00t to the supplyers of the new albums tracks. your ACE as well!:)

[Elouan]

Wooo, I'll see them tuesday :D

[Max]

I'm going to try and hope that when I get back from school, the two dates at the Hammersmith Apollo are still available *wishes and hopes*.

[Ril]

I wanna go see them in February but I'm at college that night. :(

[Angeleyes]

elo this thread is for you !! :LOL:

[Vegetable]

Wooo, I'll see them tuesday :D

how? I've read that you can only buy tickets at the door? 'Cause I read this at the Plato website: Secret Gig!
De secret gig van de Strokes vindt plaats in Amsterdam op 6 december. De bestellers die vòòr 6 december bestellen dingen mee naar vrijkaartjes voor deze secret gig. Als je graag naar dit concert wilt, moet je opletten, want vrijdag wordt de lokatie bekend (in Amsterdam, niet zo moeilijk te raden) en het is de bedoeling van The Strokes dat je gewoon een kaartje aan de deur koopt, ze willen alleen fans. :confused:

[Elouan]

Well, actually like they say: buy a ticket at the door :D

[el wormy]

hah!got me and my friends tickets earlier!20th january!

[fairy lights]

I'd love to go on 18/02 at the Hammersmith Apollo. Its a day before my 17th b'day! :D

But I'll have no one to go with. :(

[ok_computer]

Well, actually like they say: buy a ticket at the door :D Will be a nice evening this tuesday len!! :D

[Puffskein]

You.Are.A.Legend.
:D

Not yet!

(link to full album here) (http://www.livejournal.com/community/thestrokes/)

Now I am.

Ize Of The World is... probably their best song to date. It rocks so much. Anyway, be nice lads and buy the CD when it comes out. :D

[Potter]

Hey im new here :) Loving the new Strokes album, all of it is great!!

Ask Me Anything and Killing Lies rock the socks!!

[christoph]

I'm really loving the new album, it's a good sound. When is it officially out?

[Potter]

January/February I Think!!

[new born muser]

Not being able to buy any concert tickets is the pits though!:(

[Hoppipolla]

I used to dislike them quite alot, but I'm beginning to grow on them. New song is a nice change of direction, and some of the songs off their first two albums were quite good.

[Puffskein]

Album is out January 2nd...
All of their albums are great... Is This It is a fucking classic, Room On Fire has genious guitar work and great songs, First Impressions Of Earth is a revolution, with influences like System Of A Down and Muse.

Gotta love Hard To Explain, Someday, Alone Together, Soma, Reptilia, 12.51, The End Has No End, Meet Me In The Bathroom, Whatever Happened, You Only Live Once, Razor Blade, Heart In A Cage, 15 Minutes Of Pain and Ize Of The World.

[Elouan]

Tomorrow, ladieda.

[Ril]

Tomorrow, ladieda.
Ooh are you excited? ;)

[ok_computer]

Went to the pub yesterday with elouan and Fab Moretti

[jeremy kyle]

yes you did!;)

[LittleMUSEalieN]

i like the strokes.
i hate their new stuff tho.
the old stuff was mostly the same but it took my liking cause it had something special about it in a way imo (: you know like the short simple sweet theory.
the new stuff is just junk :P

[jeremy kyle]

yeah i prefer room on fire though there music is still great


COME ON JANUARY 20TH!!:D

[Elouan]

Went to the pub yesterday with elouan and Fab Moretti

Yes, he just kept buying us rounds.

[ok_computer]

yes you did!;) uhm yes, he's a friend, do you wanna see a picture??

[Elouan]

uhm yes, he's a friend, do you wanna see a picture??

Indeed, here´s one of ok_computer and fab decorating the christmastree.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Elouan/Henk-kerstboom-fab.jpg

Sadly enough he was just hiding, but there'll be more.

[new born muser]

Well, I've bought the album four days ago and it's pretty addictive.:happy:
I've been listening to it nearly exclusively since then.:D

Julian's vocals make the album for me, I think he's really come into his own in this one. He's not hiding behind that microphone for one thing!:p

... and the 'sound' is different.
Mmm, there's still one or two tracks that sounds way too similar to what they did on Room on Fire (e.g. Fear of Sleep :stunned: ).

However, they're most successful I think when they have taken risks and experimented further with their sound, case in point 'Juicebox'.
I think it makes for a very solid album, with great songs!
(Heart in a Cage must be surely one of their best!)

Despite all I've said, I think it feels like a 'transition' album. With the success of the most 'experimental' tracks, I think we're going to see a very different 'Strokes' in their next album .. and I'm so much looking forward to that.:D

As to the Muse influence ... Mmm, couldn't see very much myself, I must say.
Well, there's that 'Spanish guitar' bit in Vision of Division!:rolleyes:
... and there's a line that could be just a wee dig at them ... ( or other bands) in 'God is trying to talk to you. We could drag it out but that's for other bands to do ....'
What do you think?:p

Last thing ... I adore their intros! Did you notice how some songs have an intro that reminds you of another song and then ... changes totally into something else?
Juicebox ---- Batman tune
You only live once --- That Ice ice baby song ...

I could go on for ages about it ...
better leave it at that just now.:LOL:

[christoph]

You Only Live Once, reminded me of Summer by Sum 41 so much. It's cause of the palm muting that's all though.

Heart in a Cage is pretty awesome.

[Wowee Zowee]

I might give the new album a go.

[Nancuk]

Juice box is wicked. Finally, a really original strokes toon.

[expanding_universe]

Just bought the new album today. :yesey:

[BlackoutMatt]

random post...I saw Albert Hammond Jr at the Belle and Sebastian Manchester Ritz gig last night, twice! He walked right past me!

small pleasures:D

[Elouan]

random post...I saw Albert Hammond Jr at the Belle and Sebastian Manchester Ritz gig last night, twice! He walked right past me!

small pleasures:D

Fab Moretti payed a part of me & Ok_computer's bill at the pub. We win! :D

[BlackoutMatt]

Fab Moretti payed a part of me & Ok_computer's bill at the pub. We win! :D

amazing!

*bows down*

[Sarah]

I think I would die if I saw one of The Strokes in person like that.

I'm not even sure why..

[[Pulkse]PeZ]

Me and the guitarist in my band, Aaron, heard Juicebox and immediately decided we should cover it. They've had a very good impression on us. ^_^ I love the first two albums... people wreck them for not evolving. I say, who care? They sound great as they are. Inspirational!

[Samey]

i love the strokes. they are one of my favourite musicians.
i can hear all the album without getting bored. they even get better and better when i listen to them!

[jeremy kyle]

20 days to go:happy: :happy: :happy: :happy:

[reenap]

pre-sale for their ATL show is today...I have to buy tickets on the sly when I'm @ work..when my boss aint there..he he...:LOL:

[reenap]

I got down with Julian Casablancas in the ATL 'Last nite' :D My ears are still ringing!! Great atmosphere too......

http://network.news.com.au/image/0,10114,5058262,00.jpg

:happy: :happy: :happy:

[jeremy kyle]

just saw them on the 20th FUCKIN AMAZING!

[unicorn*]

I Like their last album. There are a lot of good songs, but still some dull exist

[cheesecheesecheese]

I love Juicebox, that's fab. I also love 'The End has no end' for some reason. They were great at V a few years back though, even if they were all wasted on stage!;)

[Emmy]

Even more excited about Hyde Park now! Wooohh! :D

[reenap]

Even more excited about Hyde Park now! Wooohh! :D


They'll rock out...you'll have a great time...

[cheesecheesecheese]

Woo! Finallly bought the new albulm...yay! :D

[Alec Trevelyan]

I love First Impressions Of Earth! :D I thought I would check out The Strokes so I bought it and now I'm Strokes crazy. I just bought Room On Fire a couple days ago. Love it! Automatic Stop is my fav song off that album! This morning I was playing a little Juicebox on my guitar! I just love that bass line! :happy:

[expanding_universe]

You Only Live Once is one of the best album-opening tracks ever.

A-don't-don't-don't get up!

[insane_muser]

I love the strokes to bits even though to me alot of it sounds the same
Juciebox is an awesome song, and they rock hard live
:) Loving the new album...

[jeremy kyle]

strokes pwn muse

[Alec Trevelyan]

You Only Live Once is one of the best album-opening tracks ever.

A-don't-don't-don't get up!

Yeah, it so is! When I first bought First Impressions I kept on replaying You Only Live Once! :happy:

[Wowee Zowee]

Just been listening to Room On Fire after afew months, It's really good!

I might need to buy the new album hmm.

[Wowee Zowee]

You Only Live Once is one of the best album-opening tracks ever.

A-don't-don't-don't get up!
I love that song, but reminded me of razorlight abit.

[Vara]

i get the new album, it's really good.I like razorblade and On The other Side.

[Johanne28]

i get the new album, it's really good.I like razorblade and On The other Side.
THANKS TO WHO ??? :eek: :D :LOL:

Of course it's absolutly great !

[Vara]

THANKS TO WHO ??? :eek: :D :LOL:

Of course it's absolutly great !
thanks to you trouble girl...;)

[€ngel]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/isis682/Strokes/powerpuff2wb.jpg :LOL:

[Alec Trevelyan]

^
Sweet! :LOL:

I went to HMV in the city last weekend and I found "Is This It" the UK/European/Non-North American Edition with the original cover art and New York City cops on it! I was so happy! I paid $32.00 for it, (I saw it on Amazon it was $35) but I consider it collectors item so I paid all that money for it.

I love Is This It! :happy:

[Vara]

I sell 1 or 2 tickets for their gig at the french festival "Eurockéennes de Belfort" on June 30th. You can see Daft Punk,Artic Monkeys,Venus... the same day.
if you're interested =>PM

[Dramatic Hammer]

Hmm I hated them for Last Nite but after a random download/listen, they're actually quite good:).

[(James)]

I saw a pic of Nikolai with some crazy-ass mohican.

He cuts his own hair, apparently. :unsure:

[ADJ]

It's a toss up between Muse and The Strokes for my favourite band, really. Favourites include What Ever Happened, Heart in a Cage, Someday, You Only Live Once, Reptilia, Under Control, Hawaii... they're all awesome.

[destructiveaesthetic]

I want to see them again...mind I've seen them waaaay too many times but it would be great to see them in the UK.

ahhhh mohawk! he couldn't have done it himself.
http://shesfixingherhair.co.uk/various_photos/candid_262.jpg

[Sommer]

It's a toss up between Muse and The Strokes for my favourite band, really. Favourites include What Ever Happened, Heart in a Cage, Someday, You Only Live Once, Reptilia, Under Control, Hawaii... they're all awesome.

+1! :happy: You Only Live Once, Juicebox, Try Your Luck are the top fav's i can think of atm.

It took me a while to figure out which one i wanted to be my number 1 band but in the end decided to stick with Muse coz i've been sticking with them for longer. Strange moral obligations i feel.

[ADJ]

Same. I've been a Muse fan since Origin of Symmetry came out, but I've only been into The Strokes for a few months now. It's been a happy time. :happy:

What was he thinking with that mohawk? Looks a bit silly to me. Is that Nikolai second from the left? He looks different. :/

[destructiveaesthetic]

that's Nick! cocaine chic mixed in with typical guitar god syndrome...both don't suit him.

anyways I've been into the Strokes before Muse actually...I was onto the Strokes at the very beginning...and I'm a New Yorker...and I interviewed to intern with them...so I might have loyalties with them.

However, I have seen the both of them the same amount of times (and it's the highest for any band)...just don't ask how many times heh I gig too much :$

[antics]

Whoa, Nikolai looks different! Cool change.

[Sommer]

Yeah, it so is! When I first bought First Impressions I kept on replaying You Only Live Once! :happy:
I reckon putting that track at the beginning was what made the whole album so impressive! I didn't like them much when i heard 12.51 or Last Nite on radio many years back, then when FIOE came out one of my mates kept on pushing me into buying it. I'm glad i did! I used You Only Live Once for a design project video soundtrack, proved to be a great success. I named them my heroes. Now that's something Muse didn't get :p

I've been into the Strokes before Muse actually...I was onto the Strokes at the very beginning...and I'm a New Yorker...and I interviewed to intern with them...so I might have loyalties with them.
On a NZ music magazine called Rip It Up there was "The Strokes Guide to New York" with Albert Hammond Jr., that was pretty much the only reason i bought that issue :LOL:
The Strokes made NY a dream holiday destination for me. :D

[Alec Trevelyan]

I reckon putting that track at the beginning was what made the whole album so impressive! I didn't like them much when i heard 12.51 or Last Nite on radio many years back, then when FIOE came out one of my mates kept on pushing me into buying it. I'm glad i did! I used You Only Live Once for a design project video soundtrack, proved to be a great success. I named them my heroes. Now that's something Muse didn't get :p

I now that I think of it... all the first tracks of their albums are brilliant! LIKE! "What Ever Happened?" and "Is This It"! Awesome tracks! You Only Live Once and What Ever Happened? I just them love to death! Video project with You Only Live Once, Good work. :D

[Mandy_]

Major bumpage.
I'm late but in love.:happy:

[Lynzi]

The first and the third albums were good but the second was shite. overall though I like them:)

[Lucifer Sam]

Why does everyone say Room on Fire was crap? Because that's what all the critics said? I can find nothing wrong with it at all. It shits all over First Impressions of Earth in my opinion.

[XxsnowflakesxX]

first impressions of earth = love it

[Lucifer Sam]

There's only 3, maybe 4 songs that I like from FIOE. But hey, each to their own. I can listen to Room on Fire from start to finish, but not really with FIOE.

[Mandy_]

I love them all.
I think they've done a great job at making consistently good albums.
Its a rarity these days to find a band like that.

So stop bitching for no reason people.:rolleyes:

[salty eyes.]

I like The Strokes. :]

I like all their albums. :o

[coxoxi]

Love Strokes... Wish to see them live... :(
Especially love him:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1350/34ah0.jpg

:D

[Marvolo]

I love them all.
I think they've done a great job at making consistently good albums.
Its a rarity these days to find a band like that.

So stop bitching for no reason people.:rolleyes:

Yeah,in your opinion.

[Liam]

Why does everyone say Room on Fire was crap? Because that's what all the critics said? I can find nothing wrong with it at all. It shits all over First Impressions of Earth in my opinion.

I just find it bores me. Other than a couple of songs it's just quite average, and they're a far from average band

Yeah,in your opinion.

Have to agree there.

1st album = great, summed up their sound perfectly. each song brought something slightly different to the album.

2nd album = mostly uninteresting. reptilia and 12:51 stand out, but aside from that there were few other good tracks.

3rd album = a good comeback. a lot more quality songs, but didn't flow right as an album in places.

[Mandy_]

darling let me a googogogogogoooo:D

[Max]

This band are gooooood but I'm glad they've taken a long break. The last album was far too long and only a few songs were that good...

[Mandy_]

This band are gooooood but I'm glad they've taken a long break. The last album was far too long and only a few songs were that good...

Maybe its just opinion but I can't see how anyone didn't think every song was superb. I just love it. Never skip a song.

[Max]

Maybe its just opinion but I can't see how anyone didn't think every song was superb. I just love it. Never skip a song.

Maybe it's to do with the lyrics in part. Ask My Anything has lyrics at points that make Chris Martin look like Tom Waits. :LOL:

[Mandy_]

Maybe it's to do with the lyrics in part. Ask My Anything has lyrics at points that make Chris Martin look like Tom Waits. :LOL::eek:

I can't believe you think that!!:LOL: Maybe they're not the best but they definitely aren't comparable, he said himself that he had nothing to say.:P

[Max]

:eek:

I can't believe you think that!!:LOL: Maybe they're not the best but they definitely aren't comparable, he said himself that he had nothing to say.:P

Not that line neccessarily, but:

Don't be a coconut
God is trying to talk to you

WTF?! :LOL:

[Mandy_]

Not that line neccessarily, but:

Don't be a coconut
God is trying to talk to you

WTF?! :LOL:
:LOL:
You've got a good point. But they've loads of good lyrics to make up for it.

[Wowee Zowee]

I do quite like The Strokes which will surprise everyone in here.

[Max]

I do quite like The Strokes which will surprise everyone in here.

:eek: OMG!!!11!1!!!!1

[Wowee Zowee]

:eek: OMG!!!11!1!!!!1
I know i know. You thought The Strokes and me being a snob would mean id hate them.

[Noel Gallagher]

The Strkes were great back in 2001, Is This Is It was and still is a great album Hard To Explain and Last Nite both excellent and catchy as fuck singles. Room on Fire was an alarming dissapointment howether and despite returning to form with First Impressions of Earth I still don't think they will ever be able to reach the heights of the first album

[Idiot Drugs]

The Strkes were great back in 2001, Is This Is It was and still is a great album Hard To Explain and Last Nite both excellent and catchy of fuck singles. Room on Fire was an alarming dissapointment howether and despite returning to form with First Impressions of Earth I still don't think they will ever be able to reach the hieghts of the first album

I think they could with their next album...Albert Hammond Jr has turned out to a gem of a song writter so hes gonna help the strokes along massively

[Alun]

One thing I like about the Strokes is that they are very orchestrated, there is always that set control over it, you know what is coming is very safe and catchy. I like the way they can put all the different rhythms together and put unusual notes in the middle of songs, but my favorite song of all is Trying Your Luck, is the best.

[Ril]

Any news on when they'll be releasing new material? It's been ages. :(

[gwezza]

Not that line neccessarily, but:

Don't be a coconut
God is trying to talk to you

WTF?! :LOL:

:LOL: too true

I think they could with their next album...Albert Hammond Jr has turned out to a gem of a song writter so hes gonna help the strokes along massively

Oh my God, the 2 AHJr albums are sooo good, just classic songwriting, absolutely beautiful songs, I think over 2 albums only one song is bad and the rest get 5 stars - impressive.
Any news on when they'll be releasing new material? It's been ages. :(

Last I heard Pharrell Williams wanted to produce their new album :( and Albert Hammond Jr was gallavanting with Agyness Deyn :( she'll break his heart

[papercut01]

Any news on when they'll be releasing new material? It's been ages. :(

they should be back in the studio early next year.. i'm guessing that albert's music pushed things back for the band, but i don't mind because i like his songs :)

[mishaussiemusefan]

i love the strokes....is this it was brilliant especially for a first album... i can't wait to see em live next time they come...:)

[Hi, how may I help you?]

juicey juice ! <3

[QueenOfNerds]

juicey juice ! <3

:LOL:

Strokes are cool, never seen um live though.

[Hi, how may I help you?]

aye, me neither !

it's on my things to do before i'm an old person list :D

[orangepeel]

Can't wait for them to start recording again. Really want to see them live.

[forevermusic]

I'm a sucker for the two main hooks - Reptilia and Last Nite.

Any songs below I'd like?

[Hi, how may I help you?]

I'm a sucker for the two main hooks - Reptilia and Last Nite.

Any songs below I'd like?

oh dear.

i'll get you going

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wdgTkSzSyVg
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ri5K28MSY_A
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cbRe5mxR0q0

[Orpheus3]

Does anyone else think that First Impressions DOESN'T suck?

I like that album more than Room on Fire. Critics thought it was boring.

Am I just crazy?

[Ro]

Does anyone else think that First Impressions DOESN'T suck?

I like that album more than Room on Fire. Critics thought it was boring.

Am I just crazy?
I like it. For me it's Is This It > First Impressions > Room on Fire

[Josefine]

No album that got a song like 'Heart in a Cage' on it can truly suck...but yeah, it's their weakest album imo :yesey:

[Josefine]

According to NME (http://www.nme.com/news/the-strokes/42301) (:rolleyes:) they've started to write the new album :)

[Hi, how may I help you?]

According to NME (http://www.nme.com/news/the-strokes/42301) (:rolleyes:) they've started to write the new album :)

sweeeeet

[Mandy_]

FUCKING GOOD.:D

[Idiot Drugs]

About time, if they hurry up I'm betting there's a headline slot or 1st Support slot waiting for them at Reading

[TaperJeanGirl]

According to NME (http://www.nme.com/news/the-strokes/42301) (:rolleyes:) they've started to write the new album :)


WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


now some summer festivals please :D

[Josefine]

WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


now some summer festivals please :D

YEEEEES please :D

[davetoms]

According to NME (http://www.nme.com/news/the-strokes/42301) (:rolleyes:) they've started to write the new album :)

About time too. :D

[Josefine]

About time too. :D

Definately!!!

[Kylee]

About time too. :D
finally!

[Kylee]

Automatic Shop <3

[Hi, how may I help you?]

Trying your luck <3

[Josefine]

Alone, Togheter <3

[Kylee]

Trying your luck <3
<3

[lyricalwax]

Holy shit people be ready to piss your pants, solo Julian album coming out this autumn called 'Phrazes of the Young', and guess what? it's frickin' awesome!

Check it out bitches!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXpXpYLoCek


:awesome::awesome::awesome:

[Josefine]

Holy shit people be ready to piss your pants, solo Julian album coming out this autumn called 'Phrazes of the Young', and guess what? it's frickin' awesome!

Check it out bitches!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXpXpYLoCek


:awesome::awesome::awesome:

Jules <3 :happy:


Just...I want a The Strokes album :supersad:

[Mandy_]

what the hell. i thought the strokes have been working on a new album.

looks kewl, but still.

[lyricalwax]

what the hell. i thought the strokes have been working on a new album.

looks kewl, but still.

They are still working on a new album, it's scheduled for release 'in the early stages of next year', that's all that anyone knows. This one's already been recorded so apart from a small US tour (lucky bastards!) it shouldn't really affect the release of the Stroke's record all that much.

Anyway, from that preview I am absolutely STOKED, such a huge change in sound with layered synths and bass-heavy beats, it sounds awesome! I've listened to it an unhealthy amount of times already. Couldn't really care less if Strokes album is delayed for a bit if it means a whole extra one from Julian, and it's only a few months away! At least it will keep me tided over until new Strokes does actually drop.

I think I need to make his own page or something..

[Ril]

I'm really looking forward to this. :happy:

[Davy]

I'm really looking forward to this. :happy:

+1

Sounds like it could be brilliant

[Suvi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzMJyUboKwQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flj%2Dtoys%2Ecom%2F%3Fjournalid%3 D3616053%26moduleid%3D20%26preview%3D%26auth%5Ftok en%3Dsessionless%3A1249718400%3Aembedcontent%3A361 6053%252620%2526%3Aafae60&feature=player_embedded

:happy:

i seriously can't wait..

[Muttley]

I was listening to the second album by The Bravery the other day and thought of The Strokes again :happy:

It had been more than a year since I last listened to the first 2 albums (I remember it well because I had a heated discussion about which one was better with a friend at a BBQ in june) so then I dug out First Impressions Of Earth.

[Josefine]

12:51 was played on the radio yesterday :happy: Oh dear, my teenage self really did adore this band....:happy:

[Muttley]

What do you mean? Your teenage self is gone? :(

Don't you like Coldplay and KoL anymore? :p

[Josefine]

What do you mean? Your teenage self is gone? :(

Don't you like Coldplay and KoL anymore? :p

My teenage self ia always present :phu: My feelings for The Strokes on the other hand is not so much obsessive adoration nowadays :LOL:


I love KOL, but the latest album......:noey:

[Muttley]

Yeah, I like Coldplay but when other bands turn into them it's :noey:

[Kylee]

Finally some new music. Hopefully it's better than First Impressions.

[Hi, how may I help you?]

Rediscovering my love for these guys :D

[Josefine]

Rediscovering my love for these guys :D

Every now and again I go all "Awwww, I do love these guise:happy:". Not as hardcore a fan as I used to be though...

[Max]

Everytime I hear the Julian Casablancas song, I think why the fuck are they not back as The Strokes. :( 11th Dimension is so crappy.

[davetoms]

The Strokes to headline Isle of Wight 2010. :)

[Samuel]

The Strokes to headline Isle of Wight 2010. :)

Really?!? There's hope for reading then.

[Suvi]

The Strokes to headline Isle of Wight 2010. :)
w000t! :eek: :awesome:

[Hi, how may I help you?]

Everytime I hear the Julian Casablancas song, I think why the fuck are they not back as The Strokes. :( 11th Dimension is so crappy.

I love 11th Dimension!

[sparkle19]

I love 11th Dimension!

:LOL: Me to. It's a bit cheesy but it's a nice upbeat tune. I also like Left & Right in the Dark as well.

[Max]

Really?!? There's hope for reading then.

I'd place them as a good bet for next year's Reading. Not that I'll be going next year. :LOL:

[gwezza]

Gah listening to This Is It Again, can't comprehend the immensity!

[Velourio]

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaii :awesome:

[Kylee]

http://www.babelgum.com/4021289/julian-casablancas-11th-dimension-video.html

[Furygirl]

http://www.babelgum.com/4021289/julian-casablancas-11th-dimension-video.html

From Julian C's solo effort. ^

Thanks for posting. Hmmmm.... On first listen, I'm not sure what to say. My initial response is that it's not really my thing, but it kinda drew me in. It's catchy.

I hope The Strokes can get their act together and release an album this year. It's what they've been saying, but who knows?

[lyricalwax]

From Julian C's solo effort. ^

Thanks for posting. Hmmmm.... On first listen, I'm not sure what to say. My initial response is that it's not really my thing, but it kinda drew me in. It's catchy.

I hope The Strokes can get their act together and release an album this year. It's what they've been saying, but who knows?

I adore his album, even though it's only 8 tracks long there are some fantastic songs on there. Was thinking of starting a separate thread but I'd probably be the only person posting considering the lack of love for Strokes solo efforts. Went to his tour last week and it was amazing.
If anyone's interested he's also covered an SNL Christmas song called I Wish it Christmas Today.

Having said all that, I can't wait for the new Strokes album either, I think they start writing/recording next year.

edit: that video is made of pure awesome.

[Kylee]

Thanks for posting. Hmmmm.... On first listen, I'm not sure what to say. My initial response is that it's not really my thing, but it kinda drew me in. It's catchy.

I hope The Strokes can get their act together and release an album this year. It's what they've been saying, but who knows?
I heard 11th Dimension a couple months ago from Stereogum and have liked it ever since. Definitely not as strong as anything from The Strokes, but it's catchy and nice to listen to. The music video brings teh lulz :chuckle:


I adore his album, even though it's only 8 tracks long there are some fantastic songs on there. Was thinking of starting a separate thread but I'd probably be the only person posting considering the lack of love for Strokes solo efforts. Went to his tour last week and it was amazing.
If anyone's interested he's also covered an SNL Christmas song called I Wish it Christmas Today.

Having said all that, I can't wait for the new Strokes album either, I think they start writing/recording next year.

edit: that video is made of pure awesome.
I haven't even heard his entire solo album yet, didn't even know it was released yet tbh. Yeah I can't wait for the new Strokes album either. There also going to be headlining a few festivals next year, so new material by then maybe?

[Exo-Daniel]

im loving the strokes =D pretty much got 'ize of the world' on repeat. apparently they're finally starting to work on the next album.

[Suvi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcye5kvbgAs

<3 :chuckle: love these guys!

[Thrived]

im loving the strokes =D pretty much got 'ize of the world' on repeat. apparently they're finally starting to work on the next album.

Yeah according to Julian's twitter, it should be coming out in September? I'm actually so excited!

Ooo I'm happy we have a Strokes thread, I'm new here, so this is cool :D

[Hi, how may I help you?]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcye5kvbgAs

<3 :chuckle: love these guys!

Thanks for posting that :LOL: Looks like they're just pratting about :chuckle:

And where's Jules :supersad:

[Suvi]

Thanks for posting that :LOL: Looks like they're just pratting about :chuckle:

And where's Jules :supersad:
i think jules was touring at the time :erm:

[Thrived]

i think jules was touring at the time :erm:

and doing plenty of interviews I propose, which means more videos to look out for! :D

Fabrizio and Nick seriously made me laugh.. especially Fab. I liked the jamming session they had at the end :LOL: Gotta love Nikolai!

[Josefine]

I really NEED to see them this summer :supersad: IOW or Rockness.....

[Furygirl]

Yeah according to Julian's twitter, it should be coming out in September? I'm actually so excited!



Yay! I hope that's true. :happy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcye5kvbgAs

<3 :chuckle: love these guys!

That was entertaining! :LOL: But they need to get it together! Now I think September of this yes for the new album might be a little ambitious. Maybe 2011? What's one more year after all this time? :chuckle:

[Thrived]

Yay! I hope that's true. :happy:

That was entertaining! :LOL: But they need to get it together! Now I think September of this yes for the new album might be a little ambitious. Maybe 2011? What's one more year after all this time? :chuckle:

Okay so what I claimed to see on Twitter isn't there now.. I'm wondering if I even heard the news on Twitter :stunned: I join too many sites!

However, I found some articles on it, sounds like they really are heading for September:
http://www.nme.com/news/the-strokes/49676
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1Dcg9M/spin.com/articles/new-strokes-record-expected-september?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=spintwitter/r:t
http://www.xfm.co.uk/news/2010/the-strokes-album-gets-september-release

Furygirl, I agree it's a bit ambitious of them. Plus I think Julian will be touring solo for most of this year?

[Jack Skellington]

i think jules was touring at the time :erm:

Yeah he is! I wen't to see him :). I asked him about when the new Strokes album would be out and he said "hopefully this Fall, if not the beginning of 2011."
-shrug-

[Thrived]

Yeah he is! I wen't to see him :). I asked him about when the new Strokes album would be out and he said "hopefully this Fall, if not the beginning of 2011."
-shrug-

You met him? You spoke to him? *majorly jealous!*
but wheey, a new album this fall! :D

[Simar]

I love The Strokes, they have lots of fans here in Argentina. When they finish recording, they must come and play here!

I want to see them face to face... haha

c u

[TaperJeanGirl]

nme is reporting a secret gig in london tomorrow night. Can't link to the article on this phone

[gwezza]

Rock Nessssssssssssssssssssss s s s s ss sss s s s s sssssssss

[Max]

nme is reporting a secret gig in london tomorrow night. Can't link to the article on this phone

It's on. Tickets go onsale at 9pm through the Dingwalls site. I'm too lazy to link.

[Josefine]

fucking yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!


:d:d:d:d

[scorpiocheech]

I'm gonna be seeing The Strokes at Outside Lands Festival in San Francisco! Fuck yeah!!!

[Josefine]

Best gig of my life - 450 capacity and the guys were so spot on! Fucking brilliant, I have on words! 17 song set list, opened with new work city cops and just kicked ass from there. I can now did happy!

[TaperJeanGirl]

New York City Cops, Reptilia, Juicebox, Heart in a cage and Last Nite were fucking mental. So much sweat around - it was dripping from the ceiling.

No new songs, but they didnt need them, the old stuff was so fucking kick ass and they were so happy to be back.

Massive thankyou to Pope and Max for giving up their tickets to two uber fan girls could go - YOU TWO ARE MADE OF SO MUCH EPIC WIN <3

The Strokes are back with a vengeance.

[Josefine]

And closing with take it or leave it...phwoar!

[Hi, how may I help you?]

The Strokes are back with a vengeance.

awriiiiiight! :awesome:

[Josefine]

awriiiiiight! :awesome:

We were totally taken aback me how brilliant they were - and we are twe total fangirls whe probably would've thought the gig had been awesome he they'd come out and covered n'dubz. I have no words.

[Girl_Afraid]

We were totally taken aback me how brilliant they were - and we are twe total fangirls whe probably would've thought the gig had been awesome he they'd come out and covered n'dubz. I have no words.

So.
Jealous.

:p

[klock]

Glad you guys have a great time, and that The Strokes are playing great live! Can't wait to see them in October. :happy:

[Josefine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgvYdmimWcc

[TaperJeanGirl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovx-8HOoDxQ

so.fucking.good.

[Josefine]

we spaffed.

[TaperJeanGirl]

a lot

[Josefine]

Best.band.t-shirt.EVER!

http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp152/plus_mig/venison021.jpg
http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp152/plus_mig/venison022.jpg

[Ro]

JEALOUS!

[TaperJeanGirl]

Pics are now up on flickr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15646652@N08/sets/72157624121522741/

Just need to sort my video out now to upload to youtube



http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4688015511_3b2c6ccb2f.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1265/4688012399_433d13a5ea.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4688618324_e2ee8fe727.jpg

[muselee321]

I love the Strokes, but... their music all sounds the same.

[lyricalwax]

Pics are now up on flickr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15646652@N08/sets/72157624121522741/

Just need to sort my video out now to upload to youtube



http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4688015511_3b2c6ccb2f.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1265/4688012399_433d13a5ea.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4688618324_e2ee8fe727.jpg



Awesome pics.
Am incredibly jealous, was refreshing for like an hour trying to buy tickets for that.

[Hi, how may I help you?]

http://forums.thestrokes.com/ :LOL:

[Furygirl]

http://forums.thestrokes.com/ :LOL:

I'm very perplexed by that forum. :confused:

[Hi, how may I help you?]

I'm very perplexed by that forum. :confused:

Completely overhauled by spammers

[Ro]

'Viagra soft instructions for use'

OMG IT'S THE NAME OF THE NEW ALBUM!

[Glorious Resistance]

How I would die to see them live... :'(

[happypanda]

ooh thanks for putting the videos up :) I'm seeing them in... 11 days, I think. So excited :happy:

[Gigapoodle]

In the last couple of weeks I've realized that The Strokes are fucking brilliant.

[Creeper McSexyPants]

In the last couple of weeks I've realized that The Strokes are fucking brilliant.

God yes, they need to get their asses to LA, nao!

[deanob17]

Fucking brilliant is an understatement.

And hmmm, who will I be seeing at approximately 10PM on Saturday night.... let me think, let me think.... oh thats right!!!

THE FUCKING STROKES!!!!!

Splendour in the farking Grass baby :D

[Calliope.]

Fucking brilliant is an understatement.

And hmmm, who will I be seeing at approximately 10PM on Saturday night.... let me think, let me think.... oh thats right!!!

THE FUCKING STROKES!!!!!

Splendour in the farking Grass baby :D

You are so freaking lucky :supersad: I desperately wanted to go to that....

[deanob17]

You are so freaking lucky :supersad: I desperately wanted to go to that....
I'd argue if I could :p Except for the fact that probably the last month has been spent as an excited mess, and now it's beginning to climax. Could be messy...

[Gigapoodle]

Fucking brilliant is an understatement.

And hmmm, who will I be seeing at approximately 10PM on Saturday night.... let me think, let me think.... oh thats right!!!

THE FUCKING STROKES!!!!!

Splendour in the farking Grass baby :D

You're so lucky :supersad:

I bought Is This It? On a whim the other day, because I heard it was good....I was blown away. Every song is so perfect. Never once have I listened to an album and liked every song on it. I've been listening to their other stuff too, which is amazing. God this band is awesome :awesome:

[deanob17]

You're so lucky :supersad:

I bought Is This It? On a whim the other day, because I heard it was good....I was blown away. Every song is so perfect. Never once have I listened to an album and liked every song on it. I've been listening to their other stuff too, which is amazing. God this band is awesome :awesome:
I was exactly the same, I'd heard good things, and I knew that 'Is This It' was meant to be one of the albums of the decade, so I figured it was worth a go. Well every single song hit me immediately, it was perfect start to finish. And then when you take into account the fact that Someday and Hard to Explain are amongst the very best songs of a very, very long time, and you've got a real gem.

The other two albums, I think, are still absolutely amazing, but maybe just contain one or two weak songs each, which ITI doesn't. Either way, seeing them live will be an amazing experience :D

[Calliope.]

I'd argue if I could :p Except for the fact that probably the last month has been spent as an excited mess, and now it's beginning to climax. Could be messy...

:LOL: I know how it feels. I'll have to just listen to triple j to hear it...

You're so lucky :supersad:

I bought Is This It? On a whim the other day, because I heard it was good....I was blown away. Every song is so perfect. Never once have I listened to an album and liked every song on it. I've been listening to their other stuff too, which is amazing. God this band is awesome :awesome:

I'm buying it very VERY soon :awesome:

[deanob17]

:LOL: I know how it feels. I'll have to just listen to triple j to hear it...



If you hear someone yelling out "OH MY GOD!!!" ala the person in HAARP when TAB comes on, you'll know its me ;)

[Calliope.]

If you hear someone yelling out "OH MY GOD!!!" ala the person in HAARP when TAB comes on, you'll know its me ;)

I'll be expecting that :yesey:

[polandspring]

Good songs, but even their hits seem to have the exact same riffs, I can't tell them apart until the words start

[shadowkay]

yeah you're right exactly the same

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfDTkxV-X2w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM2Ssne97ek

:rolleyes:

[Gigapoodle]

I just got Room On Fire today, and it's bloody awesome so far :happy:

[Burning_October]

I had always appreciated Is This It but it hadnt really hit me until a couple days ago. Halfway through Barely Legal, I went "oh fuck this actually is fantastic". This Someday kicked in, and I was like "oh, fuck yes this is a truly brilliant".

[Pig Man]

I'm starting to get into them, listened to Room On Fire and liked it. I'll be listening in order now ^^

[Furygirl]

I have much love for The Strokes. :happy:

Apparently the new album is now being delayed (again?) until March 2011. :(

http://www.spin.com/articles/strokes-new-album-due-march

[deanob17]

Time for me to be a bitch to you all....

But just got back from Splendour in the Grass, and they absolutely killed it. The set list was absolutely perfect for me. The Modern Age, Soma, I Can't Win, Whatever Happened, Under Control. I wasn't expecting any of these, but as each of them started, I lost my shit a little bit more. Not to mention Someday, Heart in a Cage and You Only Live Once.

Words can't explain how goot the set was. Half way through The Modern Age, I almost started crying out of complete joy.

I really couldn't imagine that show being topped through the festival. Until Mumford and Sons last night. Somehow, I think they just pipped them. But bloody hell, it was something fucking else.

[Calliope.]

Time for me to be a bitch to you all....

But just got back from Splendour in the Grass, and they absolutely killed it. The set list was absolutely perfect for me. The Modern Age, Soma, I Can't Win, Whatever Happened, Under Control. I wasn't expecting any of these, but as each of them started, I lost my shit a little bit more. Not to mention Someday, Heart in a Cage and You Only Live Once.

Words can't explain how goot the set was. Half way through The Modern Age, I almost started crying out of complete joy.

I really couldn't imagine that show being topped through the festival. Until Mumford and Sons last night. Somehow, I think they just pipped them. But bloody hell, it was something fucking else.

Woah, that mustve been awesome :supersad:

Setlist = :pope:

[Gigapoodle]

Time for me to be a bitch to you all....

But just got back from Splendour in the Grass, and they absolutely killed it. The set list was absolutely perfect for me. The Modern Age, Soma, I Can't Win, Whatever Happened, Under Control. I wasn't expecting any of these, but as each of them started, I lost my shit a little bit more. Not to mention Someday, Heart in a Cage and You Only Live Once.

Words can't explain how goot the set was. Half way through The Modern Age, I almost started crying out of complete joy.

I really couldn't imagine that show being topped through the festival. Until Mumford and Sons last night. Somehow, I think they just pipped them. But bloody hell, it was something fucking else.

Goddamn :stunned:

Glad you had an amazing time! That sounds absolutely fantastic :awesome:

[Bobbie86]

Bumpty bump. Fuck I LOVE this band. Saw them in July at the hordern. Almost cried with joy when they came on stage :D

[happypanda]

Bumpty bump. Fuck I LOVE this band. Saw them in July at the hordern. Almost cried with joy when they came on stage :D

Me too :happy: I want to see them again

[Glorious.]

Time for me to be a bitch to you all....

But just got back from Splendour in the Grass, and they absolutely killed it. The set list was absolutely perfect for me. The Modern Age, Soma, I Can't Win, Whatever Happened, Under Control. I wasn't expecting any of these, but as each of them started, I lost my shit a little bit more. Not to mention Someday, Heart in a Cage and You Only Live Once.

Words can't explain how goot the set was. Half way through The Modern Age, I almost started crying out of complete joy.

I really couldn't imagine that show being topped through the festival. Until Mumford and Sons last night. Somehow, I think they just pipped them. But bloody hell, it was something fucking else.

Heart in a Cage, Someday :stunned:
Jealous. But that was amazing for you.

[TaperJeanGirl]

Bumpty bump. Fuck I LOVE this band. Saw them in July at the hordern. Almost cried with joy when they came on stage :D

Fuck i miss them. Saw the comeback gig in London in June with 450 other people and its still the best gig of my life. When they started with NYC Cops i completely lost my shit. :happy:

New album and tour now please!

[klock]

For some reason, I feel a sense of nostalgia when I listen to The Strokes. I don't know why, considering their music isn't really that old. Anyone else agree?

Saw them 2 weeks ago and they were great. Julian sang the Thundercats theme song. :chuckle:

[smiss]

For some reason, I feel a sense of nostalgia when I listen to The Strokes. I don't know why, considering their music isn't really that old. Anyone else agree?

Saw them 2 weeks ago and they were great. Julian sang the Thundercats theme song. :chuckle:

I agree! But it it makes me feel sad to see how this amazing band almost split :stunned: I know they're releasing a new album in 2011 but it sounds like the last one :( And I won't miss them on the next Tour.

But all the solo projects were brilliant. Especially for Julian Casablancas ! His album is soo good, and I like Nickel Eye songs too. But they are definately better together!