The Beatles

[Dramatic Hammer]

Well.......?
Personaly, I find that everytime I get bored with them, I find something new that blows me away - particularly the later stuff :eek: :eek: !

[killer queen]

they are definitely a great band, and there are some stuff that I like a lot and yes I prefer their latest stage...but somehow I'm not a lot into them, I prefer The Stones :D

[Eve]

not much of a stones-fan myself, i prefer the beatles. my favourite album is still sgt.pepper, awesome.

i'm surprised there wasn't a beatles-thread yet by the way!! :eek: greatest band ever!!

[Dramatic Hammer]

I just downloaded the White album and it is amazing :eek: :eek: ! I realy, realy like it and it holds its own even against todays 'new' music :cool: . I'll be buying it as soon as I have the cash:).

[Pictures of you WILLY]

do you know, i have never got round to listening to a full album of this band. maybe i should

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

The Beatles bore me to tears.

[theimpressiveclergyman]

The Beatles bore me to tears.

What bands DO you like? Just asking...

Jondalar should be along soon, just a warning..

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

What bands DO you like? Just asking...

Jondalar should be along soon, just a warning..

All sorts but mainly Hardcore and Punk from the 70's and 80's.

[theimpressiveclergyman]

All sorts but mainly Hardcore and Punk from the 70's and 80's.

Fair enough. You seem to like grunge too... I think..

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

Fair enough. You seem to like grunge too... I think..

My name sorta gives that one away, doesn't it?

[theimpressiveclergyman]

My name sorta gives that one away, doesn't it?

It does? Er, I mean, of course it does. :o (Bear in mind that I missed most of grunge, being a child and deeply apathetic. Ah, wasted youth...)

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

It does? Er, I mean, of course it does. :o (Bear in mind that I missed most of grunge, being a child and deeply apathetic. Ah, wasted youth...)

It was the name of Mudhoney's first EP and they are wrongly credited with starting the 'grunge' movement.

[theimpressiveclergyman]

It was the name of Mudhoney's first EP and they are wrongly credited with starting the 'grunge' movement.

Ah. Thank you. Was it you who was at a Nirvana gig and got a hug from Kurt? ...Or was that someone else..

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

Ah. Thank you. Was it you who was at a Nirvana gig and got a hug from Kurt? ...Or was that someone else..

Nope, that was me.

[Thessi]

i like the Beatles. kiss mah ass. :p

[theimpressiveclergyman]

Nope, that was me.

You lucky sod. *glowers*

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

i like the Beatles. kiss mah ass. :p

That's why you're not as cool as me.

You lucky sod. *glowers*

Especially as he was a nobody at the time.

[Thessi]

That's why you're not as cool as me.
and i haven't been touched by Kurt either. *hangs head in shame*
but i do have boobs. ner.

[theimpressiveclergyman]

That's why you're not as cool as me.

Especially as he was a nobody at the time.

No-one's as cool as you. ;) (Sycophantic? Moi? :eek: )

Indie credibility to boot. *glowers again*

[JimJims]

Aye the Beatles are deadly!

My friend has a CD to put on his computer with every album and artwork, its cool.

Big fans should buy the Anthologys with the different versions of the songs.

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

and i haven't been touched by Kurt either. *hangs head in shame*
but i do have boobs. ner.

Got me there. But I could get fat and lick my own nipples.

I can't believe I've turned a thread about the Beatles into a filthy and depraved conversation about get fat and sucking my own man-tits.

And yes, I'm pissed still. Got in at 4 last night.

[Thessi]

Got me there. But I could get fat and lick my own nipples.

I can't believe I've turned a thread about the Beatles into a filthy and depraved conversation about get fat and sucking my own man-tits.

And yes, I'm pissed still. Got in at 4 last night.
if anyone can do it, it's you Fuzz. you got skill.

i got in at 4 last night too :D

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

if anyone can do it, it's you Fuzz. you got skill.

i got in at 4 last night too :D

I'm still pissed so the hangover hasn't kicked in yet. I hate getting the bus to work.

What time is it in your gay ass country?

[Thessi]

I'm still pissed so the hangover hasn't kicked in yet. I hate getting the bus to work.

What time is it in your gay ass country?
i have no hangover, i'm such a good girl :D

it's 12.10 over here, in the future.

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

i have no hangover, i'm such a good girl :D

it's 12.10 over here, in the future.

Whereas I had enough alcohol to kill an elephant.

It's only 10 ish here. I need to go home.

[Thessi]

Whereas I had enough alcohol to kill an elephant.

It's only 10 ish here. I need to go home.
respect. and you're... at work?
aren't you a brave little soldier :)

why not go home and listen to some Beatles?

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

why not go home and listen to some Beatles?

Because I'd rather but my penis in a blender and turn it on.

[Thessi]

Because I'd rather but my penis in a blender and turn it on.
mmmh. what a nice image. :LOL:

you do that only after you've posted a pic of it.

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

I was gonna say 'a blow job from Hannibal Lecter', but decided against it.

[Thessi]

I was gonna say 'a blow job from Hannibal Lecter', but decided against it.
that too is a nice one.
http://film.onet.pl/_i/news/duze/h/hannibal_lecter.jpg
though you might have difficulties fitting your todger in there.

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

that too is a nice one.
http://film.onet.pl/_i/news/duze/h/hannibal_lecter.jpg
though you might have difficulties fitting your todger in there.

I could get it in sideways through there. :LOL:

[Thessi]

I could get it in sideways through there. :LOL:
:eek: sounds like you really gave it some thought! :LOL:

but why, oh why would you want to?

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

:eek: sounds like you really gave it some thought! :LOL:

but why, oh why would you want to?

Circumsicion(sp?)

[Thessi]

Circumsicion(sp?)
circumcision :D
a handy word.
but yes, to an extreme chap like you, that would propably be the way to do it.

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

circumcision :D
a handy word.
but yes, to an extreme chap like you, that would propably be the way to do it.

Either that or a rusty bread knfe.

[Thessi]

Either that or a rusty bread knfe.
do i get to operate the knife?

[Superfuzz_Bigmuff]

do i get to operate the knife?

Suppose so.

You have to use the blunt side though.

[Thessi]

Suppose so.

You have to use the blunt side though.
http://www.morphography.uk.vu/thumbs/knifethumb.jpg
oh yay. i'll be gentle :D

[Agitated]

SO YES.. the beatles are good! :D :D

[Sarah]

No they aren't. Unless "good" now means "so fucking bad I want to scream into a pillow until i tear a hole in my vocal cords".

[amityrae]

Aye the Beatles are deadly!

My friend has a CD to put on his computer with every album and artwork, its cool.

Big fans should buy the Anthologys with the different versions of the songs.

I've got that cd-rom, too! It is the bomb!
My fave beatles albums are Help, Rubber Soul Revolver and Magical Mystery Tour.The songs by George on all those albums are the best. Of course, I love all the other albums but these ones are the best, IMHO.

[Thessi]

No they aren't. Unless "good" now means "so fucking bad I want to scream into a pillow until i tear a hole in my vocal cords".
i was wondering why you hadn't graced us with your comments yet...

i actually used to hate the Beatles too, but then i grew and wised up. :D

[Sarah]

You must be so proud of yourself now.

[Thessi]

You must be so proud of yourself now.
sure i am.

you'll never know, you might wake up tomorrow morning liking them.

[Sarah]

I very much doubt that.

[theimpressiveclergyman]

I very much doubt that.

So do I, somehow...

[Thessi]

So do I, somehow...
hmm, yes. you might just wake up with a song of theirs playing in your head over and over again... *evil cackle*

[theimpressiveclergyman]

hmm, yes. you might just wake up with a song of theirs playing in your head over and over again... *evil cackle*

By "you", you mean Jondalar, right?

[Thessi]

By "you", you mean Jondalar, right?
i mean whoever is reading this thread :D
i'd grace such a wonderous morning to most anyone here.

[she_had_a_username]

Nope, that was me.

You lucky son of a !@£%&%$£@% That's so cool!

Anyway, I like the Beatles. I had an obsession with them when I was younger, I'm no longer obsessed, but I still enjoy them.

Revolver = Best Beatles album

[Elouan]

Thank dad for not having thrown away all his old records. Mm, love the white album. And I love Paul when he was still a little cute beatle. Arw, he was a hottie!

[Caro]

Caroline <3s the Beatles.


That's all I have to say.

[i_love_flea]

The Beatles were my first favourite band, I remember the first time I heard them, it was when I was coming home from Scotland and my dad bought Abbey Road on the way home. :happy: After that, my brother just played me a load of Simon and Garfunkel and stuff, and since then I've been listening to rock, alt., indie, grunge etc. so The Beatles started it for me! :happy:

:unsure: sorry for the little essay, there ;)

[Elouan]

I don't like abbey road that much though. I prefer the White Album and sgt peppers loney hearts club band :happy:

[Elouan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Elouan/tas.jpg

:D

[Rocky Raccoon]

My most favorite band in the world!

[Thessi]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Elouan/tas.jpg

:D
LOVE that bag :happy:

[Primuse]

Thank dad for not having thrown away all his old records. Mm, love the white album. And I love Paul when he was still a little cute beatle. Arw, he was a hottie!
http://pserve.club.fr/PAUL.JPG
Yes,I agree,Paul was really cute when he was young. :D
Anyway,I downloaded some live Beatles videos from '63-'66 and I was really suprised how those guys were good.And they didn't even have monitors on stage,they had one microphone and screaming crowd around but they still sounded great.

[Kazuya vs Ummagumma]

I'm listening to alot of George Harrison's Beatles songs at the moment.

While My Guitar Gently Weeps <3

It still baffles me how people can not like them.

[Sarah]

Cos they suck?

Ya huh.

[Thessi]

Cos they suck?

Ya huh.
Silly moo.

The Beatles <3

George's songs are lovely, he had such a gentle voice...

[Kazuya vs Ummagumma]

Cos they suck?

Ya huh.
Well if we're going to get petty, didn't you start the razorlight thread?

[Sarah]

Before they released an album, I think.

[Rainbow]

-Yes,I agree,Paul was really cute when he was young. :D We have a look-a-like (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/Bellamy_button/paul1.jpg) on this board. :D DJ Stay <3

Anyway, I wasn't particularly interested in the Beatles for a long time, but I heard Sgt. Pepper in a book store, and fascinated with the beauty of every songs. They sound fresh, ever!

I watched a PBS special called 'Best of the Beatles' (http://www.pbs.org/previews/thebeatles/) a couple of days ago, by the way. The drummer (Pete Best) who got kicked out from the band before Ringo ... it was quite amazing he's been living his life being thought as a 'loser'. There has been rumors that he was fired because he was a bad drummer, or unfriendly, but he said "That's history. I have too much to live for'. :cool:

[Marial-B]

I do, I love them. Like with Queen, I just can't get enough of them.

I don't have a fav. album of them nor song, I just can't choose, but I have a fav. Beatles era and it's between 67' and 70'.

My fav. Beatles is... George Harrison :D. And another cool fact: I share my b-day with Ringo :D

[Green Mamba]

Who?

[Clunge]

Me.

[Ocelot Robot]

Did they ever do "Yesterday" as a band?

[uka]

hehe the beatles, they're quite alright I guess :happy:

[Hobo]

No one, lawl





Nah, they've got some alright songs.

[Bittersweet_Angelica]

Yeah I do!!!

my fav. song is: Come together..
it's sick!

[Marial-B]

Yeah :p , that song it's sticky.

Abbey Road rules!!!!!

[Orodreth]

Me! Heavy influenced! Thanks to my dad.

[Enemy]

The Beatles are so fantastic - like with Muse, I find that over 90% of their catalogue is just amazing. Really, really brilliant group :D

[iamaperfectsonnet]

like a true liverpudlian should...

I enjoy them a lot, my favourite song since I was about 4 being Maxwell's Silver Hammer

[Jase]

More like "who doesn't".

[Henz]

Anyone got that "Love" album?

Sounds interestig but I'm not sure... could be a shitty cash in....

[pubicmage]

You can hear the Love album on the official website, actually. I thought it was really good, especially the Within You Without You/Tomorrow Never Knows remix.

http://www.thebeatles.com/hearlove/index.php

[Enemy]

Love version of While My Guitar Gently Weeps = :eek: :eek: :eek: incredible.

[Rainbow]

Love version of While My Guitar Gently Weeps = :eek: :eek: :eek: incredible.Where can I hear it? I couldn't find it in the link.

Just by watching the interview, I'm not buying it (although I wouldn't mind listening to it once). The Beatles songs are great as they are, and I don't like the idea of selling them which have been changed/arranged largely by others. It's like colouring a black-and-white classic film to me.

[Sarah]

Eugh, they're as bad as Tupac for not fucking off already.

[Jimi Haze]

Eugh, they're as bad as Tupac for not fucking off already.

Yet the difference is they're one of the best bands of all time, completely revolutionary for the time and have had so many hit singles and albums it's quite amazing, not to mention 2 of them are still alive :)

Best band ever? Possibly...

Love is brilliant! Gives these already amazing songs another level at times I'd say....but then again, the originals are incredible

[Sarah]

No they aren't, they are disgustingly overrated.

[Jimi Haze]

Where can I hear it? I couldn't find it in the link.

Just by watching the interview, I'm not buying it (although I wouldn't mind listening to it once). The Beatles songs are great as they are, and I don't like the idea of selling them which have been changed/arranged largely by others. It's like colouring a black-and-white classic film to me.

It's on their myspace site -

No they aren't, they are disgustingly overrated.
:LOL:

Of course a band with what....30+ Number 1 singles and a pretty much every album they released going to number 1 (when this actually mattered!) is going to be hyped up and overrated by some people, but people can't deny the talent there in the song writing and the execution of the songs.....

[Rainbow]

I agree with you Jimi Haze, I think they are the best band ever possibly (well, this is The Beatles thread afterall, too :rolleyes: ). Or, if not as a band, it's at least a group of extraordinarily talented people. How they kept things so simple and beautiful ... that's why I don't get why you need 'Love'. No need for an another level for The Beatles.

[Caff]

Everytime I tell someone that simple pop music is sometimes better, I get told how wrong I am...but the funny thing is most of them will shout you down if you say you're not into the Beatles. Fucking funny how hypocritical/ignorant some people can be. Those people clearly like the Beatles because they think you have to like them.

[pubicmage]

No they aren't, they are disgustingly overrated.
A bit like how the Main Musers overrate Muse beyond belief?

[Caff]

A bit like how the Main Musers overrate Muse beyond belief?

Muse are probably worse in terms of that as they're still active.

[Sarah]

A bit like how the Main Musers overrate Muse beyond belief?

Not quite since it is apparently, as Cath has pointed out, one of the commandments that thou shall love The Beatles & think they are the cause of all things after 1964. Something that Muse fans in the Main Musers forum really can't quite parallel however surreal it may be to go in there.

[Rainbow]

Everytime I tell someone that simple pop music is sometimes better, I get told how wrong I am...but the funny thing is most of them will shout you down if you say you're not into the Beatles. Fucking funny how hypocritical/ignorant some people can be. Those people clearly like the Beatles because they think you have to like them.I never can't understand why you have to like what someone else likes. Criticism for art overall, is subjective and many see it as reflection of themselves. I have to note especially Paul McCartney. Even taking his lyrics only, worth putting The Beatles top of the world.

I don't feel being any sort of elite just because I like The Beatles ... I didn't like them until 2 years ago. :rolleyes: But now, as I see more bands working too hard, and they sound over-worked. It makes me appreciate The Beatles, kept music so simple (regardless how much they worked). How many bands can do that?

Jimi Haze: I listened to the samplers on MySpace, and I have to say 'meh' to LOVE. What have they done to 'Strawberry Fields Forever'? :noey:

[Caff]

There are bands around now who make "simple" music, yet they get slagged off for being "shit" or "trendy" or "NME bands" or whatever...and people fail to realise they're only doing what the Beatles did only in a modern context. Yet if someone points this out or says the Beatles are shit, they get absolutely lynched.

[Cerpin]

There's nothing wrong with simple music, as long as the songs are good.

[Wowee Zowee]

There's nothing wrong with simple music, as long as the songs are good.
Exactly. I like nothing more than listening to acoustic songs.

[Rainbow]

Yet if someone points this out or says the Beatles are shit, they get absolutely lynched.Only in England, maybe? :LOL: No one in my office knows The Beatles (they say "oh, I think I heard them in my mom's belly"), but I'm not offended. Honestly, I'm not even sure if I'm in the majority or minority in North America.

I have to add the simplicity of The Beatles is just one of the good qualities of them. To prove it, I've heard bands trying to make songs like them but no one can do it better (Oasis? :noey:). To me, music without originality does not work. People effect each other and it's the same for The Beatles, but they grew something original from it.

[Marvolo]

Tha radio just told me that Sgt Pepper was released 40 years ago today.:happy:

[Judderman]

Happy birthday Sgt Pepper!

[Clunge]

Happy birthday to the album that is NOT their best album, imo :happy:.

Revolver ftw!

[she_had_a_username]

Happy birthday to the album that is NOT their best album, imo :happy:.

Revolver ftw!

That post couldn't be more true.

<3 Revolver

Sgt Peppers is a very good album, but so overrated it hurts.

[Dramatic Hammer]

It's a bit silly to class the beatles as 'simple music' - it may be true for the first few albums but the latter stuff is way more complex....

[Emmy]

Help or Rubber Soul. Definately.

I'm a massive fan of their earlier stuff :happy: Watched A Hard Days Night today whilst trying to revise. It actually helped.

[Clunge]

I'm completely the opposite, I really can't find any interest in their work up until Rubber Soul.

Not to say I dislike their earlier work, it just doesn't grip me like their weirder stuff :LOL:.

[Emmy]

I do like their later stuff, it's got a lot more depth to it :happy: However there's just something about She Loves You or Dance With Me that just makes me smile so much. I think it's what you grow up with, I grew up with my dad playing all of their earlier stuff and so that's what I've come to love the most. I only really discovered the later work when I was about 11.

[Caff]

It's a bit silly to class the beatles as 'simple music' - it may be true for the first few albums but the latter stuff is way more complex....

Yeah but their stuff for much of the 60s was purely simple pop that "defined" the era in a way. Not that there's anything wrong with "simple" as I said...and even something that's complex musically can still be classed as a simple song in the way that it sounds.

I would actually prefer if more bands set out saying "we'll do whatever sounds good" rather than thinking that to be good you've got to do loads of wanky shite...

[progmetalfan]

I can't wait until they eventually put out some good remasters of the albums. Love easily gets the most play from me out of all the Beatles albums because it just sounds SO good.

Amazing to think that Sgt. Pepper's is twice as old as me - same goes for Pet Sounds. Those two albums have stood the test of time for very good reason and still sound as new and fresh as anything that gets put out today. Funny how much influence they had on music, yet they still seem entirely original even amongst the plethora of music available today.

[Mneme]

^Good grief--Sgt Pepper's is 40 years old! Then that means I'm...good grief! I remember when this album came out...and it was this big black round thing you played on a record player with a needle, for God's sake!:D

Still one of my all-time faves...Pet Sounds, too! Long may they play!

[mr.jingles]

Am I the only Beatles fan who thinks that 'A Hard Day's Night' was a shit movie?

Aside from Ringo's performance, there wasn't anything good about it IMO.

[Marvolo]

Am I the only Beatles fan who thinks that 'A Hard Day's Night' was a shit movie?

Aside from Ringo's performance, there wasn't anything good about it IMO.

I've never seen any of their movies,are they any good?

[Humphrey Goldenbollocks]

There are bands around now who make "simple" music, yet they get slagged off for being "shit" or "trendy" or "NME bands" or whatever...and people fail to realise they're only doing what the Beatles did only in a modern context. Yet if someone points this out or says the Beatles are shit, they get absolutely lynched.

most music is actually quite simple.

and none of these bands are doing what the beatles did. none are pushing the technology we have today for a start, that's what the beatles did in the 60's. if i gave you a 4-track tape recorder, i'd be impressed if you came up with anything as complex as the beatles' later stuff!

[lostkiwibird]

I've never seen any of their movies,are they any good?

A Hard Days Night is excellent. Help is a bit naff and very dated but it has funny bits and a few good songs. Magical Mystery Tour is awful awful awful :rolleyes: apart from I Am The Walrus. Let It Be I haven't seen so I can't say.

[Georgy Drachenkoeter]

I like them.
Dunno half of the stuff they made, but I guess they got me interested in music somehow. :happy:
But for someone in the age of 10 to 15 it isn't too easy to have the Beatles as they're fav band and everyone knowing it. :rolleyes:

[Waldo]

You say you want a revolution well you know, we all want to change the world....I'm listening to it now. :happy:

[Clunge]

I hope that's the good version, the single version.

Not Revolution 1 or 9, they pale in comparison :(.

[miele]

Favourite beatles tune guys?

For some weird reason, mine's "i'm only sleeping" at the mo'.

[Waldo]

There's different versions? :confused: I like Revolution cos it seems pretty metal fro the Beatles, Eleanor Rigby is great, and Day Tripper and Help!. :)

[miele]

Forgot to say: A hard days Night is ace! Finding it at the stores is hard tho'.

Good taste Santi, btw. i like ur choices.

[Clunge]

There's different versions? :confused: I like Revolution cos it seems pretty metal fro the Beatles, Eleanor Rigby is great, and Day Tripper and Help!. :)
There are three Revolutions:

- Revolution 1 (Kinda poppy, bobbing tune)
- Revolution 9 (Tripped out weirdness, basically just noises)
- Revolution Single Version (Heavy metal Beatles :D)

[Clunge]

Oh, and as for favourite Beatles while I'm here:

- I Want You (She's So Heavy)
- And Your Bird Can Sing
- Don't Let Me Down
- Love You To
- Norwegian Wood
- Revolution

[Kazuya vs Ummagumma]

At the moment:

Carry That Weight
Here Comes The Sun
While My Guitar Gently Weeps

George Harrison is the man.

[Waldo]

Forgot to say: A hard days Night is ace! Finding it at the stores is hard tho'.

Good taste Santi, btw. i like ur choices.

:D I like Hard Day's Night.

Eh, I have Revolution on a compilation disc...dunno what version it is haha.

[miele]

At the moment:

Carry That Weight
Here Comes The Sun
While My Guitar Gently Weeps

George Harrison is the man.

+12324356471

I was so very sad when he died, felt a huge irreplaceable loss. Been in love with the man since I was about 7.

[Waldo]

+12324356471

I was so very sad when he died, felt a huge irreplaceable loss. Been in love with the man since I was about 7.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. :'( He shouldn't have smoked. :noey: And he wrote Something too didn't he? THat made me cry. :'( Dammit, I want them all to be alive right now. :(

[miele]

aaaaw *hugs*

Would it be strange to say the Beatles (the ones that heve died) sorta affirms my belief that there is heaven? :$

I need to stop hallucinating....

[Waldo]

:LOL: Not at all. Dayummm........John died before I was born so I never had any hopes of seeing them live. :'(

[miele]

Apparently they stopped performing live loooong before they broke up. bcoz it got to a point they couldnt hear themselves play anymore from all the screaming.

Silly girls.

[Waldo]

I know. And they weren't even hot or anything. :LOL: They even stopped playing and then everyone was still singing along so loudly, so they just laughed. That's the thing about being famous, no matter how ugly you are, someone's gonna think you're hot. Just cos you're famous. :noey:

[Emmy]

Am I the only Beatles fan who thinks that 'A Hard Day's Night' was a shit movie?

Aside from Ringo's performance, there wasn't anything good about it IMO.

I love A Hard Days Night :LOL: Not as much as Help! though.

"There's more here than meets the eye"
Everyone laughs at Ringo's sudden apprehension.
:D

[Rainbow]

:D I like Hard Day's Night.Wiki says: "Film critic Roger Ebert cites the film as one of the Top Films of All Time. In 2004 the magazine Total Film named A Hard Day's Night the 42nd greatest British film of all time. In 2005, Time.com named it one of the 100 best films of the last 80 years. It is currently ranked the fourth greatest film of all time on Rotten Tomatoes". :eek:

I heard the song called 'Because' for the first time. What a beautiful song!

Come to think of it, I haven't seen Hard Day's Night nor listened the whole Abbey Road album. I like Beatles from those best albums, but can't say I know them enough, yet. :$ shit.

[Waldo]

Wiki says: "Film critic Roger Ebert cites the film as one of the Top Films of All Time. In 2004 the magazine Total Film named A Hard Day's Night the 42nd greatest British film of all time. In 2005, Time.com named it one of the 100 best films of the last 80 years. It is currently ranked the fourth greatest film of all time on Rotten Tomatoes". :eek:

I heard the song called 'Because' for the first time. What a beautiful song!

Come to think of it, I haven't seen Hard Day's Night nor listened the whole Abbey Road album. I like Beatles from those best albums, but can't say I know them enough, yet. :$ shit.

I've never watched the movie. After I get a record player, I want to get all their records. Not CDs, records. :D

[miele]

I know. And they weren't even hot or anything. :LOL: They even stopped playing and then everyone was still singing along so loudly, so they just laughed. That's the thing about being famous, no matter how ugly you are, someone's gonna think you're hot. Just cos you're famous. :noey:

:eek: Blasphemy! Have you seen George Harrison when he was really young and clean-shaven?

:p:)

Is it wrong that a lot of the men I fancy are dead? George Harrison, River Phoenix, james Dean, jeff buckley.... damn. *Heads to the necrophilia thread*

[Waldo]

:eek: Blasphemy! Have you seen George Harrison when he was really young and clean-shaven?

:p:)

Is it wrong that a lot of the men I fancy are dead? George Harrison, River Phoenix, james Dean, jeff buckley.... damn. *Heads to the necrophilia thread*

:LOL: Nope, not at all. But I can't think of anyone cute that is dead haha.

Yes I have, he didn't look all that good. :p Just my opinions tho haha. I forgot Jeff Buckley was dead...:erm:

[miele]

:
Yes I have, he didn't look all that good. :p Just my opinions tho haha.

Boo to that. :p :LOL:

[Waldo]

Boo to that. :p :LOL:

:p Hehe.

[Rainbow]

Not CDs, records. :DRecords rocks. I love the process of playing, and the large jackets which can be nice display. :D

[Waldo]

Records rocks. I love the process of playing, and the large jackets which can be nice display. :D

I want a record player. Haha. After I get one (I swear I will, I will! :LOL:) I will try to buy as little CDs as possible.

[Bradass]

I still sincerely believe that The Beatles were and are the best band ever to grace this planet with their presence.

[jrallen]

I heard the song called 'Because' for the first time. What a beautiful song!shit.

One of my favorite songs of all time. try doing salvia when you listen to it. it really takes you somewhere

[Clunge]

I still sincerely believe that The Beatles were and are the best band ever to grace this planet with their presence.
I sincerely agree.

[miele]

I still sincerely believe that The Beatles were and are the best band ever to grace this planet with their presence.

Aaah, that's an awesome thing to believe in.

[mr.jingles]

I still sincerely believe that The Beatles were and are the best band ever to grace this planet with their presence.

I believe that there's been few bands who have taken rock music to a further level than The Beatles did, but what can't be denied is that without The Beatles, music wouldn't have evolved in the way it has done for the past 40 years.

The Beatles achieved what no other band or any other artist has been capable of doing and that can't be denied, regardless of whether you think there's been a better band than The Beatles or not.

[Clunge]

The Beatles are still light-years ahead of most bands producing music these days.

[medusa_ c]

...

but what can't be denied is that without The Beatles, music wouldn't have evolved in the way it has done for the past 40 years.



care to explain why?

[Enemy]

care to explain why?

Tomorrow Never Knows - from what I've learned in Music Culture lessons, is the first song to properly use sampling. Now that is awesome!

[Mneme]

The one that did it for me at first was Day Tripper--after that, all I wanted to do was play the drums!

Forget the violin lessons!

[medusa_ c]

Tomorrow Never Knows - from what I've learned in Music Culture lessons, is the first song to properly use sampling. Now that is awesome!

Indeed.Good enough,but is that all?

[Waldo]

I still sincerely believe that The Beatles were and are the best band ever to grace this planet with their presence.

They are. :)

[Sarah]

Are they?

[Waldo]

Are they?

Yes.

[medusa_ c]

Yes.

says who?

They're not the best band ever,not because some other band is,but because there isn't A best band.It's just a thing only someone naive would say,or what;someone that's come full circle,has listened to everything and has come to a final conclusion.Otherwise it just an unfounded statement.

[Waldo]

says who?

They're not the best band ever,not because some other band is,but because there isn't A best band.It's just a thing only someone naive would say,or what;someone that's come full circle,has listened to everything and has come to a final conclusion.Otherwise it just an unfounded statement.

I'm not saying they're the best band ever, but they've probably made the biggest impact on the music industry ever.

[Sarah]

I don't know. I think Spice Girls had a bigger impact.

[Waldo]

I don't know. I think Spice Girls had a bigger impact.

On three-eight year old people. Eight years at the most. I think now it'd probably be 6. ;)

[Lucifer Sam]

Resting my head, on the sea bed.

[Sarah]

On three-eight year old people. Eight years at the most. I think now it'd probably be 6. ;)

I thought you were talking about the industry? :erm:

[Waldo]

I thought you were talking about the industry? :erm:

Yeah, but also talking about their fanbase too. I'm sure Spice Girls have lost lots of fans, but the again Beatles have too. But I'm sure they still have more than them.

[Crayola]

Tomorrow Never Knows - from what I've learned in Music Culture lessons, is the first song to properly use sampling. Now that is awesome!

:noey: It'd been around for decades before that. Bill Buchanan's stuff predates The Beatles by at least a decade. The Beatles were the first commercially succesful band to use advanced production and recording techniques but the pioneers of it were around in the late 1940s. The Beatles were just the right band at the right time, even though they nicked all their early stuff from The Big Three. All the techniques had been around for years before them - they just brought it to the mainstream, although that was a major feat they're given far too much credit for what they actually did.

Some Big Three stuff, recorded three years before the Beatles formed (after watching a Big Three gig, incedentaly)

http://www.merseybeatnostalgia.co.uk/html/the_big_three.html

[mr.jingles]

I don't know. I think Spice Girls had a bigger impact.

Speaking of The Spice Girls and The Beatles does anyone know why 'A Hard Day's Night' gets so much praise, while 'Spiceworld' got nothing but negative reviews?

Sure, 'A Hard Day's Night' has better music, but both movies are poorly written and they're a pointless pile of shit made with the only excuse of capitalizing on the massive popularity of an artist.

[Waldo]

Speaking of The Spice Girls and The Beatles does anyone know why 'A Hard Day's Night' gets so much praise, while 'Spiceworld' got nothing but negative reviews?

Sure, 'A Hard Day's Night' has better music, but both movies are a poorly written and pointless pile of shit made with the only excuse of capitalizing on the massive popularity of an artist.

Never seen A Hard Day's Night. I remember a LITTLE bit of Spice World on TV when I was three. I glared at it the entire time.

[Sarah]

Speaking of The Spice Girls and The Beatles does anyone know why 'A Hard Day's Night' gets so much praise, while 'Spiceworld' got nothing but negative reviews?

Sure, 'A Hard Day's Night' has better music, but both movies are a poorly written and they're a pointless pile of shit made with the only excuse of capitalizing on the massive popularity of an artist.

Because people think various members of The Beatles are gods. Despite half of them proving otherwise by dying.

[Enemy]

:noey: It'd been around for decades before that. Bill Buchanan's stuff predates The Beatles by at least a decade. The Beatles were the first commercially succesful band to use advanced production and recording techniques but the pioneers of it were around in the late 1940s. The Beatles were just the right band at the right time, even though they nicked all their early stuff from The Big Three. All the techniques had been around for years before them - they just brought it to the mainstream, although that was a major feat they're given far too much credit for what they actually did.

Some Big Three stuff, recorded three years before the Beatles formed (after watching a Big Three gig, incedentaly)

http://www.merseybeatnostalgia.co.uk/html/the_big_three.html

Oh right... naughty Beatles!

[Rainbow]

Saw 'Imagine' DVD for the first time.

Sad. :(

[freeworld]

they are truly a genius,, they create a hugh tons of simple riff that becomes a beautiful music,,

[That Little Animal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOUGwHVJsV8

I don't think a song with worse lyrics was ever made... And the lyrics aren't the only terrible thing about this song.. Ugh.

[Fluffy the Conqueror]

lmao ringo's such a tard.

the funniest thing I ever saw was McCartney's comments about the making of the white album... I guess for back in the USSR Ringo was gone or kicked out or something, so paul, lennon, and harrison all laid down different drum tracks... Someone later asked McCartney if he considered Ringo to be the best rock 'n' roll drummer, and he laughed and said "he wasn't even the best drummer in the Beatles..."

:LOL:

pwnt.

[That Little Animal]

lmao ringo's such a tard.

the funniest thing I ever saw was McCartney's comments about the making of the white album... I guess for back in the USSR Ringo was gone or kicked out or something, so paul, lennon, and harrison all laid down different drum tracks... Someone later asked McCartney if he considered Ringo to be the best rock 'n' roll drummer, and he laughed and said "he wasn't even the best drummer in the Beatles..."

:LOL:

pwnt.

I heard the same story, only it was John saying it...

[Fluffy the Conqueror]

I heard the same story, only it was John saying it...

oh okay yeah that's right... :LOL: ... I was shooting from the hip there.... :LOL:

still. Ringo. Dolt.

The guy has to be in the running for most overrated musician of all time.

[Clunge]

Hehe, that song is absolutely hideous :LOL:.

[greg]

the beatles aren't just a band, they're fucking great. they invented pop and no-one has managed to surpass them in 40 years. completely underrated

[Clunge]

I wouldn't say underrated in the slightest, I just think a lot of people are very sick of hearing the 'best band ever' tag and so we have a generation of people who just say they're shit without knowing any better.

I'm very much in the best band ever camp. I put the whole of Sgt. Peppers on whilst we were in the park a few days ago to some friends who really didn't know The Beatles. Most thought it was shite, I was very sad :(.

I Want You (She's So Heavy), And Your Bird Can Sing, Norwegian Wood, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Don't Let Me Down and Tomorrow Never Knows are six of the best songs ever, easily some of my favourite songs of all time.

[achi]

I wouldn't say underrated in the slightest, I just think a lot of people are very sick of hearing the 'best band ever' tag and so we have a generation of people who just say they're shit without knowing any better.

I'm very much in the best band ever camp. I put the whole of Sgt. Peppers on whilst we were in the park a few days ago to some friends who really didn't know The Beatles. Most thought it was shite, I was very sad :(.

I Want You (She's So Heavy), And Your Bird Can Sing, Norwegian Wood, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Don't Let Me Down and Tomorrow Never Knows are six of the best songs ever, easily some of my favourite songs of all time.


Sgt.Peppers is one of the best albums ever!!!:happy:

Great songs :yesey: While My Guitar Gently Weeps and Don't Let Me Down are awesome!xD:happy:My favorites are A Day In The Life and Strawberry Fields Forever .I'll never get tired listening at them..whatever song that is.

[ScarredEyes]

I wouldn't go so far myself to say that The Beatles are the best band ever; though full acknowledgement should be given to their influence on music today, it's seen everywhere. Being such a far ranging group, I feel that there is something for everyone to enjoy. My favourite Beatles albums is The Magical Mystery Tour.

[That Little Animal]

I wouldn't go so far myself to say that The Beatles are the best band ever; though full acknowledgement should be given to their influence on music today, it's seen everywhere. Being such a far ranging group, I feel that there is something for everyone to enjoy. My favourite Beatles albums is The Magical Mystery Tour.

What's great about them is that they were always progressive and popular at the same time. In their time they covered the entire spectrum that includes everything from underground, alternative and mainstream rock to boyband music. I don't think any other band has ever covered that much ground.

[ChasingDreams]

Hehe I was singing a Beatles song when I saw this thread. I love the Beatles, I have around 150 Beatles songs on my iPod. My current favorite is Across the Universe :D

[achi]

I wouldn't go so far myself to say that The Beatles are the best band ever; though full acknowledgement should be given to their influence on music today, it's seen everywhere. Being such a far ranging group, I feel that there is something for everyone to enjoy. My favourite Beatles albums is The Magical Mystery Tour.

It has Strawberry Field Forever on it ...:happy:

[greg]

I challenge anyone to name a better band in ANY genre than the beatles.

[ScarredEyes]

I challenge anyone to name a better band in ANY genre than the beatles.
Any genre that The Beatles covered, anyway. I don't think doom metal was their forte.

[Caff]

I wouldn't say underrated in the slightest, I just think a lot of people are very sick of hearing the 'best band ever' tag and so we have a generation of people who just say they're shit without knowing any better.



Likewise there are people who know nothing about them yet trot out "omg best bad ever" and they're just as annoying, if not more.

I wouldn't go so far myself to say that The Beatles are the best band ever; though full acknowledgement should be given to their influence on music today, it's seen everywhere. Being such a far ranging group, I feel that there is something for everyone to enjoy. My favourite Beatles albums is The Magical Mystery Tour.

Probably around about how I feel.

[E-Mused]

I have Sgt. Peppers on vinyl :happy: that's nice

[Gemsy]

Something in the way she moooves... attracts me like no other lover... something in the way she wooooos meee...

I don't want to leave her now
You know I believe her now

nee neenee ne ne neeeeoowwwww (that's a guitar noise)

[Dramatic Hammer]

Any genre that The Beatles covered, anyway. I don't think doom metal was their forte.

Helter Skelter!

[hyperactivebliss]

The Beatles = simply amazing! I'm not sure if they actually are the best band of all times but I grew up on them. Just... awesome.

[hyperactivebliss]

I saw Paul McCartney in concert in Quebec City last week. Most amazing concert I've ever been to! He played for nearly 3 hours... it was so so so awesome. I can't do it justice with words :p

[Alun]

The Beatles are over rated.

[Jackstin]

The Beatles are over rated.

They could be the best band ever and they'd still be overrated. People bum them so much that it makes it difficult to remember that actually they were an excellent band in their time.

EDIT: There are plenty of bands better than The Beatles. As for studio bands..arguably none...but then again arguably a few.

[Noel Gallagher]

They could be the best band ever and they'd still be overrated. People bum them so much that it makes it difficult to remember that actually they were an excellent band in their time.

Thats because without The Beatles music would in no way be as advanced as it is now. We wouldn't have had Punk, Mods or the Brit Pop era's1 They moved things on where no one else would.

[Jackstin]

Thats because without The Beatles music would in no way be as advanced as it is now. We wouldn't have had Punk, Mods or the Brit Pop era's1 They moved things on where no one else would.

That's abit of a huge assumption.

Just because the Beatles did do what they did, and first, that doesn't mean no one else would have done. Also there's a lot of ill-educated views about what the Beatles did. Brian Wilson for example was experimenting well before Beatlemania, in fact it was the competition (friendly) between The Beach Boys and The Beatles that spurred The Beatles experimenting.

Alot of people put many band including the Beatles on unrealistic pedastools ignoring what actually happened for the sake of romance.

[Caff]

That's abit of a huge assumption.

Just because the Beatles did do what they did, and first, that doesn't mean no one else would have done.


Arrgh I say this ALL THE TIME and it gets ignored pretty much in favour of saying "no they wouldn't...."

And I generally don't mind The Beatles and like some of their stuff!

I just hate the attitude that without them we'd still be listening to blokes in tights playing Greensleeves on lutes. Exagerrated example but you know, the way some people carry on it IS like that. Someone or something would've come along eventually...the 50s arguably laid the foundations of the pathway for a start.

Virtual-history is pointless anyway. So saying "pop music would be shit without the Beatles" is always going to be pointless as well seeing as the world we live in is one where the Beatles exist.

[The_Tourist]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/115/289589770_3f44811ddd.jpg?v=0

They're one of my first musical loves.

[Meep]

I can't believe I didn't listen to them for so long :supersad:

[AFX Twiiin!]

Best band ever!
why is it uncool to like them? :(

[Caff]

Best band ever!
why is it uncool to like them? :(

It's not but if you think it is: Why is it uncool/a crime punishable by death to say you don't think they're the best band ever?

[gwezza]

I saw Paul McCartney in concert in Quebec City last week. Most amazing concert I've ever been to! He played for nearly 3 hours... it was so so so awesome. I can't do it justice with words :p

Saw him in Liverpool a few months ago, he's still got it :happy:

I love his stories of when he comes back to Liverpool and goes to old houses to reminisce and it's either full of tourists or people going Paul, welcome back as if they know him or my favourite - while waiting outside in a car a man comes up to him and goes 'Yep, Paul McCartney used to live here' :LOL:

[gwezza]

It's not but if you think it is: Why is it uncool/a crime punishable by death to say you don't think they're the best band ever?

OMG KILL HER!!!!!!!!

[pubicmage]

The Beatles were obviously incredibly influential, but they were hardly the only band from that period who have shaped pop music since then. Just look at Velvet Underground's first album, which is arguably the origin of 'punk' and 'alternative' music, and has far more influence over the 'alternative' scene than any Beatles album. Their primary influences were avant-garde music and '50s rock and roll, and I highly doubt they would somehow not have existed without the Beatles.

And then there's stuff like Bitches Brew and On The Corner by Miles Davis, which were influenced by Stockhausen, Ligeti and other electronic composers, as well as Ornette Coleman's free jazz experiments. They are both landmark albums, and the latter is usually noted for its influence on drum 'n' bass, post-punk and hip-hop. They would have existed without the Beatles because Miles Davis had already proved himself to be a forward-thinker by continually reshaping jazz (The Birth of the Cool and Kind of Blue both made huge contributions to new movements waay before the Beatles got together), so it was inevitable that he'd continue trying new things with or without the Beatles' dominance of the music scene in the 1960s.

The Beatles weren't the only band who were playing innovative (for its time) pop music in the 1960s, anyway. Pink Floyd, for example, could have existed without the Beatles. Performances of Interstellar Overdrive have been dated back to at least early 1966, which completely pre-dates the Beatles psychedelic music, so the movement was already around without their input and probably still would have prevailed beyond the underground eventually. And Syd Barrett was influenced more than anything else by Charlie Parker and other bebop musicians, which explains their free-form improvisational style that has had such a strong impact on the music scene since then. The fact that he was influenced by jazz but made strange pop music just proves that there were people who brought alternative influences to the Beatles into pop music and the ever-changing state of jazz (particularly towards the late '60s when electric instruments and studio effects were being brought into it) was bound to bring around more and more people who thought like that (which it did).

The Kinks also deserve to be metioned, because they probably had just as much influence on New Wave groups as the Beatles. If not more.

They were undoubtedly the most influential pop band in mainstream terms, but people completely overlook everything else that was going on at the time to superfically heighten their importance. If they didn't break into the mainstream, somebody else would've. The '50s rock and roll style/early '60s crooning would have got stale and the state of the mainstream would have changed without the Beatles, because there are so many examples of other bands from the same era who were doing their own thing without ripping them off. The fact that the Beatles themselves got sick of playing straight forwad rock and roll just proves the scene was always going to change! If they didn't do it, somebody definitely would have, and only a fool could deny that. It's a clichéd fad to dismiss other bands' relevance because Lennon is obviously the only cultural icon ever.

Oh, and the Beatles would never have been remember in the same light if it wasn't for Yoko Ono changing Lennon's musical perspective by introducing him to the avant-garde art scene and turning them from a straight forward pop band into occasional avant-garde experimentalists with more artistic credibility than "la la la I love her".

[Wendigo]

have you considered a career as a music critic? You should.

[Lick My Face]

I don't like The Beatles, on account of their music being, in my ears, boring as hell.

I appreciate whatever mark they've left in the music industry, but I just don't like listening to them.

The same (if not a stronger feeling) goes to Classical music. That, and they can actually play music SO well.

[pubicmage]

have you considered a career as a music critic? You should.

I'd rather write about why Thomas Aquinas' philosophy was invariably moronic than about the exaggeration of the Beatles' influence. But I'll take that as a compliment even if I hate approximately 99% of all music critics!

[Wendigo]

Ah I just like the idea of a music critic (or critic in general) who knows the history of what it is they're critiquing and is willing to use concrete examples instead of alluding to being an expert.

[Lick My Face]

I'd rather write about why Thomas Aquinas' philosophy was invariably moronic than about the exaggeration of the Beatles' influence. But I'll take that as a compliment even if I hate approximately 99% of all music critics!

Haha, I love Thomas Aquinas. He does make me larf a bit.

And hey, just be in the 1% that you don't hate! Haha

[Jackstin]

I think one of the major reasons people don't worship the Beatles as much anymore is because now pretty much is the time of the "Live Band" and Beatles weren't that good live.

They weren't bad, my dad went to see them when they were still playing the clubs and said they outclassed the main act; but he also saw them when they became big and they were really nothing special.

One of the reasons the Beatles studio efforts were so good was because after 1966 they abandoned live shows and became a completely "Studio Band".

Now call me a nitpicker, but you can't call a band the greatest band ever if they only shine in one aspect.

[Caff]

They're repeating Pop Britania on BBC2 at the moment. The episode tonight was about the 60s and emphasised my point that it wasn't just the Beatles shaping the music scene at the time.

Having said that, the programme still concentrated on them too much and missed out a lot of bands on the cusp of the 60s/70s :rolleyes:

[Noel Gallagher]

But The Beatles took the risks that other bands never would have considered nor thought of...therefore opening it up for other bands to experiment in ways they never would of. The Beatles chanegd the face of music whether you like it or not. From the ways the songs were written to recording techniques used,The Beatles where pretty much way ahead of their time and any other band in that era.

[Caff]

But The Beatles took the risks that other bands never would have considered nor thought of...therefore opening it up for other bands to experiment in ways they never would of. The Beatles chanegd the face of music whether you like it or not. From the ways the songs were written to recording techniques used,The Beatles where pretty much way ahead of their time and any other band in that era.

Sigh...nobody is disputing that, they're just saying that someone else would've done it eventually and there WERE bands in iscolation from the Beatles, such as Pink Floyd. It's just the Floyd weren't exactly the sort of band you could market at screaming teenage girls...

[Noel Gallagher]

Sigh...nobody is disputing that, they're just saying that someone else would've done it eventually and there WERE bands in iscolation from the Beatles, such as Pink Floyd. It's just the Floyd weren't exactly the sort of band you could market at screaming teenage girls...

I'm not disagreeing with that. But The Beatles moved things along at a much faster pace than was expected and in ways no one else could. Yes they were easy to market compared to other bands but you can't deny that their song writing was still head and shoulders above anyone else at that time. They not only perfected but were the first band to write 3 minute pop classics! They got the ball rolling in that repsect and made chart music poular......they were the first band to try and conquer the world and they did it simply because of their genious.

[pubicmage]

If it wasn't for George Martin's production, their songwriting wouldn't have stood out the way it did. His job was basically to fix the flaws in their songwriting and make the music marketable. If he'd been producing the Rolling Stones instead, they would probably have been the more popular group.

It's got far more to do with his ability than either Lennon's or McCartney's. They're both good songwriters, but his input is what made the difference. The fact that McCartney did everything he could to get him to produce Let It Be rather than Phil Spector says quite a lot to me, and the way that album sounds so different to the others owes more to the change in producer than anything else.

[Jackstin]

They not only perfected but were the first band to write 3 minute pop classics!
What about The Tornadoes?

At best Beatles were ONE of the first.

And again, they can't be the best band ever if they weren't amazing live. Which they weren't.

[Lick My Face]

What about The Tornadoes?

At best Beatles were ONE of the first.

And again, they can't be the best band ever if they weren't amazing live. Which they weren't.

Also, The Tornadoes were the first British music act to gain a number 1 in the US charts.

The Beatles can at least suck on that one.

[Enemy]

What amazes me above all else about The Beatles, is the amount their music changed in such a short space of time. And it never suffered from overindulgence (you could argue about that with The White Album though, I guess) and was always as good (even better) than it ever was.

:)

[Caff]

What I find hard to reconcile is their reputation with their early gig footage when they're basically a 1960s boyband :LOL:

[gwezza]

A Hard Days' Night is an amazing 'boyband' film. No other band has been so prolific and successful, they were making 2 number one albums a year ffs. The Velvet Underground made 3 rubbish albums. They're not even on the same scale. Using arguments like 'so and so were doing this before so and so' is ridiculous and pointless. How exactly do you pinpoint when a genre starts? If you start talking like that The Beatles 'invented' heavy metal with Helter Skelter. I love that song, but that's bollocks. The Beatles had loads of disparate influences, from psychedelia to soul to rock n roll to classical. Also, the fact that Brian Eptein or George Martin or Yoko Ono helping/hindering them doesn't make the songs any better or worse The songs will stand the test of time and their biggest rivals, the Rolling Stones prove my point: at a recent gig, one person was asked to name one of their songs, and replied 'Brown...?'

[Muttley]

Something in the way she moooves... attracts me like no other lover... something in the way she wooooos meee...

I don't want to leave her now
You know I believe her now

nee neenee ne ne neeeeoowwwww (that's a guitar noise)

You're asking me will my love grow...
I don't knowowow I don't know*

I love the Elvis version of this :happy:

*I do know though :happy:













:LOL:

[HarmonyLover]

One reason why The Beatles are the "Greatest of all time" - they were innovative decades ahead of their time. Prime example - "Tomorrow Never Knows" anticipated techno/trance by decades...

[Gemsy]

One reason why The Beatles are the "Greatest of all time" - they were innovative decades ahead of their time. Prime example - "Tomorrow Never Knows" anticipated techno/trance by decades...

Totally. It's like, "one day there will be a band called the Chemical Brothers. Let's invent their sound!" :D

[pubicmage]

Steve Reich, I tell thee, was making far more innovative electronic music when the Beatles were still writing rock and roll nonsense. I think his music makes far more of an impression on electronic dance musicians than two or three songs by the Beatles. But yes, that song obviously invented the Chemical Brothers (and proves that they are completely derivative, not an interesting electronic group!).

Anyway, I still think it's foolish to cite their influence as a reason why they are 'better' that every other band. By that logic, the Renaissance era composers should be cited as the best ever solely because they invented diatonicism. They had a strong impact, obviously, but they were harmonically uninteresting, whereas later composers did far more with it and produced infinitely more interesting compositions. I think the people whose music is an exposition of ideas suggested by their predecessors are 'better', simply because they explore these styles in far more depth and produce more interesting music than the primitive experimentalists did. Just because the Beatles were the first pop group to try that sort of thing does not mean they cannot be bettered!

[Heartofsaturdaynight]

Steve Reich, I tell thee, was making far more innovative electronic music when the Beatles were still writing rock and roll nonsense. I think his music makes far more of an impression on electronic dance musicians than two or three songs by the Beatles. But yes, that song obviously invented the Chemical Brothers (and proves that they are completely derivative, not an interesting electronic group!).

Anyway, I still think it's foolish to cite their influence as a reason why they are 'better' that every other band. By that logic, the Renaissance era composers should be cited as the best ever solely because they invented diatonicism. They had a strong impact, obviously, but they were harmonically uninteresting, whereas later composers did far more with it and produced infinitely more interesting compositions. I think the people whose music is an exposition of ideas suggested by their predecessors are 'better', simply because they explore these styles in far more depth and produce more interesting music than the primitive experimentalists did. Just because the Beatles were the first pop group to try that sort of thing does not mean they cannot be bettered!

Correct - but have the Beatles been bettered? How many POP groups have come close? Their songs have lasted now a very long time, how’s the competition shaping up? What The Beatles recorded between 1962 to 1970 sounds still fresh today.
Even if their influence did not exist at all - the songs & recordings are still exceptional.
Their will always be artists being more innovative but can they caputure the hearts & imaginations of thousands or millions.
I agree with you about the use of the word "better". I have found too often on forums talk of "better". It's good to discuse but music more than anything else for me operates on a different level. If you like it or hate it then so be it - but it's more about personal taste. Sometimes it's about where you heard it or who you were with.
I think with film you can say "that film is shit" more than you can with music. Bad acting is bad acting but a bad singer may not seem bad to everybody. A bad film script can not be dressed up as a good one but a simple lyric can work with the right music and artist.

[pubicmage]

Most innovative bands do not get as much exposure as the Beatles; one of the burdens of trying original ideas nowdays is that you will inevitably be doomed to commerical failure, because the charts are dominated by music that is written for the sole purpose of getting into the charts. The state of the music mainstream now is completely different to what it was in the 1960s, so it's not really fair to compare commerical success (or lack of) amongst modern musicians with the Beatles.

An interesting thing that I want to point out about the 1960s music scene is that the audience were very fickle even then. The Walker Brothers were probably even more popular than the Beatles for quite a few years in Europe, and Scott Walker's first three solo albums did very well in the charts. But when he decided to release Scott 4 under his real name rather than as 'Scott Walker', it failed to chart, despite being (this can, of course, be contested) his best album to date when it was released; Scott 3, on the other hand, managed to reach #1 and made a strong impression on its listeners. To me, that just proves that people in general like to be spoon-fed music instead of looking for it on their own.

And personally, I think they have been bettered by Sparks. But they are yet another band who've suffered from under-exposure, despite writing consistently brilliant pop albums and exploring different genres instead of sticking to a safe formula (so even if they did get the exposure they deserve, the constant style shifts would probably be enough to put people off them for not playing it safe and living up to their expectations). Their lyrics are invariably witty, the melodies are always catchy and memorable, and the production is easily on-par with George Martin's. I love the Beatles but there are so many pop musicians who I'd rather listen to (including Lennon's solo work!).

[Caff]

As I keep saying, a lot of other bands from the 60s/70s contributed to how music sounds today but they get ignored because everyone would rather go on about the Beatles.

I am NOT saying the Beatles are shit, just saying that they're not as OMG ORIGINAL as some people seem to think seeing as there wasn't a massive black musical void and then suddenly...the Beatles.

[Knightofcydonia]

Bowie's Deram stuff is better than any Beatles stuff I've heard from the 60s and even as a non-fan, it's not like I've been able to avoid hearing such crap as Love Me Do and Hey Jude.

[Rainbow]

I am NOT saying the Beatles are shit, just saying that they're not as OMG ORIGINAL as some people seem to think seeing as there wasn't a massive black musical void and then suddenly...the Beatles.I found an short article.
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/71134

Elvis seems to be an huge influence for the bands of that time.

[HarmonyLover]

Bowie's Deram stuff is better than any Beatles stuff I've heard from the 60s and even as a non-fan, it's not like I've been able to avoid hearing such crap as Love Me Do and Hey Jude.

What about mini-suite like "You Never Give Me Your Money" or George's Indian songs? What about "Tomorrow Never Knows"? Not everything they did was pure pop.

[Noel Gallagher]

The greatest most innovative band of all time, thats not an opinion it's a simple fact one that cannot be denied.

[achi]

I agree Noel!:yesey:

[Max]

It's not fact whatsoever...

That said, Magical Mystery Tour is one of my favourite albums ever. :happy:

[pubicmage]

There is no objective 'greatest' band (it's ridiculously arrogant to suggest otherwise), and they are only innovative amongst pop musicians.

I'd say Sunn O))) are influenced more by Black Sabbath and La Monte Young than the Beatles. Mahavishnu Orchestra were influenced more by Miles Davis than the Beatles. Tangerine Dream are influenced more by Stockhausen than the Beatles. Faust are influenced more by avant-garde electronic composers than the Beatles, and even point that out on their first album by taking the piss out of the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, and writing about their Germanic influences. All of those groups are extremely influential on groups who play their jazzy/experimental styles, but the Beatles really aren't.

The influence of the Beatles is undeniable, but it is entirely limited to pop music. Charlie Parker is probably the most innovative jazz musician of all time, yet his influence seems to be ignored in favour of the Beatles, who have no input whatsoever into that style. Neither of the two are 'more' influential because they each influence different types of musicians.

I think the Beatles' music is overrated, to be honest. Yes, they have influenced countless pop groups, and that's good. I think they have influenced plenty of groups who built on their ideas and made them far more interesting. Who did it first is not that relevant. The only thing that matters is who did it best, and in most cases, I can think of groups who did it better than the Beatles.

[HarmonyLover]

There is no objective 'greatest' band (it's ridiculously arrogant to suggest otherwise), and they are only innovative amongst pop musicians.

I'd say Sunn O))) are influenced more by Black Sabbath and La Monte Young than the Beatles. Mahavishnu Orchestra were influenced more by Miles Davis than the Beatles. Tangerine Dream are influenced more by Stockhausen than the Beatles. Faust are influenced more by avant-garde electronic composers than the Beatles, and even point that out on their first album by taking the piss out of the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, and writing about their Germanic influences. All of those groups are extremely influential on groups who play their jazzy/experimental styles, but the Beatles really aren't.

The influence of the Beatles is undeniable, but it is entirely limited to pop music. Charlie Parker is probably the most innovative jazz musician of all time, yet his influence seems to be ignored in favour of the Beatles, who have no input whatsoever into that style. Neither of the two are 'more' influential because they each influence different types of musicians.

I think the Beatles' music is overrated, to be honest. Yes, they have influenced countless pop groups, and that's good. I think they have influenced plenty of groups who built on their ideas and made them far more interesting. Who did it first is not that relevant. The only thing that matters is who did it best, and in most cases, I can think of groups who did it better than the Beatles.

What about "Strawberry Fields Forever" or "A Day in the Life", "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", "Helter Skeler"?

[pubicmage]

What about them?

[HarmonyLover]

What about them?

Stick to Spice Girls and S-Club 7 noob.

[pubicmage]

They are all pop songs. You obviously have no idea what pop music is if you cannot comprehend that, since the Beatles essentially define pop if their alleged 'universal influence' is to be believed. And pop is not a pejorative.

Now tell me, Mr Troll, which part of my post implied that I like the Spice Girls and S-Club 7?

[Martin]

I hate the Beatles, their "Music" makes me want to stab people in the face.

[HarmonyLover]

I hate the Beatles, their "Music" makes me want to stab people in the face.

If you are really 27, you should have been over that phase 8-9 years ago. That "rage thing" is so teeny.

[pubicmage]

If you are really 27, you should have been over that phase 8-9 years ago. That "rage thing" is so teeny.

If you really are 32, you will not go into the Radiohead thread and start making posts about how Muse are so much better in a laughable attempt to provoke an angry response from their fans. :)

[Martin]

If you are really 27, you should have been over that phase 8-9 years ago. That "rage thing" is so teeny.

shut up.

[Muttley]

Happineeeeeeess is a warm gun mama :happy:

[Noel Gallagher]

Lets sum The Beatles up simply:

The best there is, the best there ever was and the best there ever will be.

The End.

[InsertCreativeNameHere]

I think they are wank, boring and overated. But they were good at the time I suppose.

[HarmonyLover]

Lets sum The Beatles up simply:

The best there is, the best there ever was and the best there ever will be.

The End.

Pretty much.

[Muttley]

I think they are wank, boring and overated. But they were good at the time I suppose.

You are overrated and your wanks are boring :phu:

[Lick My Face]

Lets sum The Beatles up simply:

The best there is, the best there ever was and the best there ever will be.

The End.

...Or is it?

























No, it isn't.

[HarmonyLover]

If you evaluate The Beatles on objective criteria rather then what you want to listen to on your playlist, they clearly are the best ever.

* most classic albums
* greatest rate of innovation(Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt Pepper and White Album) released within 3 years!
* influential in many genres, created some from whole cloth(Tomorrow Never Knows)
* sold most ever albums
* first to ever perform in a stadium
* the only act ever to have top 5 in the singles charts

[Lick My Face]

If you evaluate The Beatles on objective criteria rather then what you want to listen to on your playlist, they clearly are the best ever.

* most classic albums
* greatest rate of innovation(Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt Pepper and White Album) released within 3 years!
* influential in many genres, created some from whole cloth(Tomorrow Never Knows)
* sold most ever albums
* first to ever perform in a stadium
* the only act ever to have top 5 in the singles charts

If you were a professional troll, you would rank dead last in the world.

[InsertCreativeNameHere]

Album sales mean fuck all.

[Flynn]

she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah

great chorus that

[Lick My Face]

she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah

great chorus that

I can see The Beatles inspired Kaiser Chiefs in some way, then.

[HarmonyLover]

she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah she loves you yeahhh yeahhh yeah

great chorus that

I might as well go on and on how horrible Filip is.

[Flynn]

I can see The Beatles inspired Kaiser Chiefs in some way, then.

oh god.
kaisers fail

I might as well go on and on how horrible Filip is.

its happening soooooooooon

[Lick My Face]

oh god.
kaisers fail

That they do.

[HarmonyLover]

Noobz

[Gemsy]

I love the Beatles. They had some shit stuff, sure. But so did everyone. haha.

[Gemsy]

Noobz

:erm:

lol

[pubicmage]

Haha, this should be fun!

If you evaluate The Beatles on objective criteria rather then what you want to listen to on your playlist, they clearly are the best ever.

* most classic albums
* greatest rate of innovation(Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt Pepper and White Album) released within 3 years!
* influential in many genres, created some from whole cloth(Tomorrow Never Knows)
* sold most ever albums
* first to ever perform in a stadium
* the only act ever to have top 5 in the singles charts

Most classic albums? Critics generally agree that their first real 'classic' album is Revolver, which leaves them with five classic albums. If that argument is to be applied, then Led Zeppelin will also become the best band ever because they have just as many critically-recognised 'classic' albums, if not more.

I think Rubber Soul, Revolver and the White Album all have fillers, so they're not great albums to me. Especially the White Album, which would've been better off as a single LP. Think about it this way if you want to discuss innovation in a small space of time: Frank Zappa released Freak Out! (one of the first concept albums and double albums), We're Only In It For The Money (another concept album), Absolutely Free (pretty much the original prog album) and Lumpy Gravy (the first example of musique concrète by a well-known non-classical musician) in the same space of time, and none of those albums have any filler tracks as such, because they all contribute to what is a larger whole conceptually. Zappa has influenced masses of 'rock', jazz, avant-garde and classical musicians (and lyricists, to a lesser extent), so I'd say he is just as important as the Beatles if we are going to look at it objectively.

Tomorrow Never Knows would not exist without the influence of Yoko Ono and the ideas she picked up as a Fluxus artist. She opened up the avant-garde to Lennon, but the style would have emerged anyway because almost every electronic group cites those who were experimenting with electronics before the Beatles wrote it as their influences. The influence of Steve Reich and Karlheinz Stockhausen's compositions would have paved the way for this style of music whether or not the Beatles wrote Tomorrow Never Knows, as great as it may be. It does not deserve sole credit because tape loops and feedback were not original ideas. If they invented it, then it can be said they also invented guitar-based pop music and rock 'n' roll, since we are looking at this objectively.

Albums sales are not relevant. And if they were, then you will gladly accept that Michael Jackson and Celine Dion are better than your beloved Muse (objectively speaking, of course!).

I hate stadium music, so that is not a very good argument in their favour. Unless you like Bon Jovi, that is. :)

[Muttley]

I might as well go on and on how horrible Filip is.

Fuck off