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Lick My Face
01-10-2008, 07:33 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080929/ap_on_re_us/florida_beer_killing_3

The fuck is wrong with this kid? :stunned:

xuwang
01-10-2008, 09:21 PM
my generation is condemned to a disgraceful future :facepalm:

Flynn
01-10-2008, 09:39 PM
desperate times.

beer is important.

Lick My Face
01-10-2008, 11:09 PM
desperate times.

beer is important.

lolz

But seriously, murdering someone for $6? Jeeeeeez, his goals were hardly high, were they? :stunned:

Flynn
01-10-2008, 11:11 PM
lolz

But seriously, murdering someone for $6? Jeeeeeez, his goals were hardly high, were they? :stunned:

not high at all
unless he also planned to buy some weed

Speedster
01-10-2008, 11:17 PM
:|
whats happening with ppl now a days?

Wendigo
01-10-2008, 11:19 PM
"I'd kill for a beer".

gwezza
02-10-2008, 12:04 AM
Three things:

1) 'According to police documents, Tanguay told investigators he was burglarizing the house when Kaliszeski approached him with a knife. He took it away from her and used it to attack her, and also hit her in the head with a lamp.'

That's not a fucking word

2) If she had the knife first, is it not self defence?

3) Making jokes about murders and people dying is not funny

Noodles
02-10-2008, 02:06 AM
I guess he'll be doing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/Noodles_iceman/Caruso.jpg
Miller time.

YEAAAHHHH!

Wendigo
02-10-2008, 02:36 AM
nooo you have to break the sentence up, then follow the last part with YEEEEEEAAAH. THERE IS A CLEAR FORMAT. :mad:

Noodles
02-10-2008, 02:49 AM
nooo you have to break the sentence up, then follow the last part with YEEEEEEAAAH. THERE IS A CLEAR FORMAT. :mad:

:LOL:
I'm sorry, it's my first day. I was going to do it like that, but then I thought that was wrong.

Better now?

Fernando
02-10-2008, 02:49 AM
That's not a fucking word
bur·glar·ize (bûrhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifglhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gif-rhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/imacr.gifzhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/lprime.gif)v. bur·glar·ized, bur·glar·iz·ing, bur·glar·iz·es
v.tr.1. To enter and steal from (a building or other premises).
2. To commit burglary against: The second-floor tenants have been burglarized twice.

v.intr. To commit burglary.



2) If she had the knife first, is it not self defence?
Defence is not a word. Also, I don't think you can plead self-defense when you broke into the person's house.
Making jokes about murders and people dying is not funny
Yes, it is.

GorkerMorker
02-10-2008, 09:54 AM
MILK

Wendigo
02-10-2008, 12:13 PM
:LOL:
I'm sorry, it's my first day. I was going to do it like that, but then I thought that was wrong.

Better now?

yes, MUCH. :D

gwezza
02-10-2008, 01:46 PM
Defence is not a word. Also, I don't think you can plead self-defense when you broke into the person's house.

Yes, it is.

We had a similar case in the UK - but it ended the other way around - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer)

A child broke into a farmers' house and was shot in the back and killed while running away. In that situation anyway, I think you can safely say the farmer was in the wrong.

Defence is a word, it's been Americanised from the original English to defense, idiot. So as I'm English, speaking my own language, I know how to spell English, you jellyfish sucking, arse munching, grotty, drooling scallywag. :p

I'm going to do you a favour by giving you a little lesson, 'Obama won the election Friday' is not a sentence, 'Obama won the election on Friday' is.

Americanize is not a word, Americanise is.

'Cookbook' is not a word, 'cookery book' is (two words)

Aeroplane - Airplane
Centre - Center
Connection - Connexion
Aluminium - Aluminum
Signalling - Signaling
Programme - Program
Organise - Organize
Paralyse - Paralyze
Gynaecology - Gynecology
Dialogue - Dialoge
Arse - Ass

It may paralyse you to realise there is a world outside the US, even more so that we speak English, but in England, that's just what we do.

Flynn
02-10-2008, 01:56 PM
Aeroplane - Airplane
Centre - Center
Connection - Connexion
Aluminium - Aluminum
Signalling - Signaling
Programme - Program
Organise - Organize
Paralyse - Paralyze
Gynaecology - Gynecology
Dialogue - Dialoge
Arse - Ass


seeing words spelt the american and wrong way makes me feel funny :noey:

gwezza
02-10-2008, 04:51 PM
seeing words spelt the american and wrong way makes me feel funny :noey:

It makes me weep. I'm sorry I had to inflict this on you just to make my point :(:mad:

Wendigo
02-10-2008, 04:54 PM
I'd rather see American spelling than internet slang any day of the week.

Flynn
02-10-2008, 04:58 PM
I'd rather see American spelling than internet slang any day of the week.

what about leet
thats funny

"buh u r a gay lol" is annoying

Wendigo
02-10-2008, 05:11 PM
including leet.

Flynn
02-10-2008, 05:12 PM
including leet.

8U7 15 d4 b0m8 lol

Wendigo
02-10-2008, 05:13 PM
I just don't get the point. At least I can understand the point of American spelling, it was to create a new identity for the newly independant country, was it not?

Flynn
02-10-2008, 05:14 PM
I just don't get the point. At least I can understand the point of American spelling, it was to create a new identity for the newly independant country, was it not?

:LOL::LOL:

GorkerMorker
02-10-2008, 05:27 PM
I just don't get the point. At least I can understand the point of American spelling, it was to create a new identity for the newly independant country, was it not?

No it wasn't. All spelling changes over time, or in the case of American spelling, degenerated over time.

Wendigo
02-10-2008, 08:16 PM
Really? I thought a lot of it was done on purpose.

Wendigo
02-10-2008, 08:25 PM
Ah just looked into it some more. The differences in pronunciation were recorded by Webster, hence the change in spellings.

Fernando
02-10-2008, 08:45 PM
We had a similar case in the UK - but it ended the other way around - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_%28farmer))

A child broke into a farmers' house and was shot in the back and killed while running away. In that situation anyway, I think you can safely say the farmer was in the wrong.

Defence is a word, it's been Americanised from the original English to defense, idiot. So as I'm English, speaking my own language, I know how to spell English, you jellyfish sucking, arse munching, grotty, drooling scallywag. :p

I'm going to do you a favour by giving you a little lesson, 'Obama won the election Friday' is not a sentence, 'Obama won the election on Friday' is.

Americanize is not a word, Americanise is.

'Cookbook' is not a word, 'cookery book' is (two words)

Aeroplane - Airplane
Centre - Center
Connection - Connexion
Aluminium - Aluminum
Signalling - Signaling
Programme - Program
Organise - Organize
Paralyse - Paralyze
Gynaecology - Gynecology
Dialogue - Dialoge
Arse - Ass

It may paralyse you to realise there is a world outside the US, even more so that we speak English, but in England, that's just what we do.
I was being sarcastic, but apparently you missed it. And seeing as we invented the airplane, I think we'll call it whatever the fuck we want, and a number of the English versions of words you wrote are completely made up. Also, being snobbish about the version of English you happen to speak doesn't work very well in conjunction with last sentence.

And as to the kid breaking into the guy's house and being shot while running away, maybe he should have considered not breaking into the house. There's an idea.

Lick My Face
02-10-2008, 09:24 PM
2) If she had the knife first, is it not self defence?

Simply disarming her would have sufficed, why go through the trouble of murdering her too?

And as to the kid breaking into the guy's house and being shot while running away, maybe he should have considered not breaking into the house. There's an idea.

I'd honestly love to agree with you, but what I've just said above stops me from doing so. Maybe the farmer wasn't meant to kill the burglar, but still, a few warning shots would have sufficed.

Everyone has a right to self-defence, no doubt. But, killing even in self-defence is inexcuseable(sp?), I think.

Fernando
02-10-2008, 09:43 PM
Everyone has a right to self-defence, no doubt. But, killing even in self-defence is inexcuseable(sp?), I think.
Maybe, but consider that if they live, justified or not, they may seek revenge. It's also inexcusable to break into someone's house under most circumstances. Also, it would be dangerous (where I live at least) to assume that the burglar isn't armed, and could just be trying to get away so they can draw their weapon, or come back armed.

gwezza
02-10-2008, 10:04 PM
I was being sarcastic, but apparently you missed it. And seeing as we invented the airplane, I think we'll call it whatever the fuck we want, and a number of the English versions of words you wrote are completely made up. Also, being snobbish about the version of English you happen to speak doesn't work very well in conjunction with last sentence.

And as to the kid breaking into the guy's house and being shot while running away, maybe he should have considered not breaking into the house. There's an idea.

Yes I did miss that, it was pretty hard to see. Obviously you wouldn't know whether they were made up or not, but they are not. We invented biscuits, which are much better than air travel and are not 'cookies'. We also invented sweets, which are not 'candy', elastic bands (not rubber bands), hoovers (not vacuum cleaners) jet engines without which, ironically, air travel would be more like a microlight flight, and the internet, without which you would be unable to pull me up on the spelling of the English language or decide a child deserves to die.


Everyone has a right to self-defence, no doubt. But, killing even in self-defence is inexcuseable(sp?), I think.

Agreed. My question was a hypothetical one - is it possible the guy that's the subject of this thread could use self defence in the 'heat of the moment' as a defence. I don't think it should apply - having disarmed her, he obviously shouldn't have stabbed her.

Maybe, but consider that if they live, justified or not, they may seek revenge. It's also inexcusable to break into someone's house under most circumstances. Also, it would be dangerous (where I live at least) to assume that the burglar isn't armed, and could just be trying to get away so they can draw their weapon, or come back armed.

Um the pre-emptive strike plan doesn't work in the UK. The farmer owned the gun illegally, and firearms are illegal in the UK unless you have a licence - and that's only if you are a farmer or a hunter. I can't believe you would shoot someone in the bacl. Literally. It beggars belief.

Fernando
02-10-2008, 10:44 PM
Yes I did miss that, it was pretty hard to see. Obviously you wouldn't know whether they were made up or not, but they are not. We invented biscuits, which are much better than air travel and are not 'cookies'. We also invented sweets, which are not 'candy', elastic bands (not rubber bands), hoovers (not vacuum cleaners) jet engines without which, ironically, air travel would be more like a microlight flight, and the internet, without which you would be unable to pull me up on the spelling of the English language or decide a child deserves to die.
Still a little sour that the U.S. gained independence from you snotty bastards so we could be snotty bastards too?

Um the pre-emptive strike plan doesn't work in the UK. The farmer owned the gun illegally, and firearms are illegal in the UK unless you have a licence - and that's only if you are a farmer or a hunter. I can't believe you would shoot someone in the bacl. Literally. It beggars belief.
And the kid was also there illegally. If everyone had been following the law, nobody would have been hurt. Neither side was in the right as far as I'm concerned, but shooting a potentially dangerous intruder has more justification than breaking into someone's house, I know that. Also, please explain what "it beggars belief" means, because I genuinely have no idea.

gwezza
02-10-2008, 11:01 PM
Still a little sour that the U.S. gained independence from you snotty bastards so we could be snotty bastards too?

Yes, that really bothers me.:rolleyes: I also cry about Hong Kong, Kenya, Canada, New Zealand and Belize for an hour each on a nightly basis.

And the kid was also there illegally. If everyone had been following the law, nobody would have been hurt. Neither side was in the right as far as I'm concerned, but shooting a potentially dangerous intruder has more justification than breaking into someone's house, I know that. Also, please explain what "it beggars belief" means, because I genuinely have no idea.

I just don't think he was dangerous, he was running away. 'Potentially dangerous' has no meaning. A ladder is potentially dangerous.

'Beggars belief' means you just can't believe it, as in 'it beggars belief Ne-Yo is doing so well in the charts considering his entire musical output sounds like cats vomiting all over the back catalogue of Michael Jackson

Fernando
02-10-2008, 11:14 PM
Yes, that really bothers me.:rolleyes: I also cry about Hong Kong, Kenya, Canada, New Zealand and Belize for an hour each on a nightly basis.
It wouldn't surprise me if that was true.

I just don't think he was dangerous, he was running away. 'Potentially dangerous' has no meaning. A ladder is potentially dangerous.
Indeed. But a ladder won't break into your house. Maybe criminals in the UK are nicer, but plenty of the criminals I hear about in the news are the ones who, after being chased out of the house they broke into, would come back the next morning and bludgeon you to death with a golf club as you leave your house to go to work, because they're such caring people. Also, I'm assuming you weren't there in person when it happened, so whatever you know of it is heard secondhand from people who are biased one way or the other, not to mention that even the people who were there may not accurately remember exactly what happened.

'Beggars belief' means you just can't believe it, as in 'it beggars belief Ne-Yo is doing so well in the charts considering his entire musical output sounds like cats vomiting all over the back catalogue of Michael Jackson
Ah.

gwezza
02-10-2008, 11:33 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if that was true.


Indeed. But a ladder won't break into your house. Maybe criminals in the UK are nicer, but plenty of the criminals I hear about in the news are the ones who, after being chased out of the house they broke into, would come back the next morning and bludgeon you to death with a golf club as you leave your house to go to work, because they're such caring people. Also, I'm assuming you weren't there in person when it happened, so whatever you know of it is heard secondhand from people who are biased one way or the other, not to mention that even the people who were there may not accurately remember exactly what happened.

It is true. I'm 2 countries into my cry-a-thon.

Maybe you listen to the news a little too much, there is a lot of scaremongering and lies in the media. I remember when Michael Fish (weatherman) said there wasn't going to be a storm and there was. I also think that, here in the UK, it would be rare for the criminal to return the next day, unless I was involved in some kind of gang warfare, in which case I'd be dead pretty soon anyway.

I wasn't there in person, but this is just a discussion, everyone's biased, you just go with the facts and form an opinion.

Fernando
02-10-2008, 11:44 PM
I just say that that we don't know the facts and don't bother to form an opinion. And yes, the media loves to blow stuff out of proportion, but I've also witnessed one man start beating another with a golf club because he didn't like how he was being looked at.

Jase
03-10-2008, 12:27 AM
Everyone has a right to self-defence, no doubt. But, killing even in self-defence is inexcuseable(sp?), I think.

Not necessarily. If it's a choice between killing or being killed, I'd kill any day of the week. Nobodies life is more important than your own.

brenda_94_56
03-10-2008, 12:30 AM
what the hell !!!!!!!! is wrong with this kid !!!!!!!

paper tiger
03-10-2008, 05:09 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080929/ap_on_re_us/florida_beer_killing_3

The fuck is wrong with this kid? :stunned:

Florida.
yea, not surprised.

paper tiger
03-10-2008, 05:20 AM
Yes I did miss that, it was pretty hard to see. Obviously you wouldn't know whether they were made up or not, but they are not. We invented biscuits, which are much better than air travel and are not 'cookies'. We also invented sweets, which are not 'candy', elastic bands (not rubber bands), hoovers (not vacuum cleaners) jet engines without which, ironically, air travel would be more like a microlight flight, and the internet, without which you would be unable to pull me up on the spelling of the English language or decide a child deserves to die.



ugh.
Why are many Brits still hung up on how in America we use different words for some things and how we spell things a tad bit differently?
Who cares.

gwezza
03-10-2008, 11:17 AM
ugh.
Why are many Brits still hung up on how in America we use different words for some things and how we spell things a tad bit differently?
Who cares.

Because it you look at the original post, I got pulled up on my spelling after commenting on an invented word

Fernando
03-10-2008, 01:37 PM
Because it you look at the original post, I got pulled up on my spelling after commenting on an invented word
It's not an invented word. Not any more than every other word is invented anyway.
And the second part was sarcasm.

Lick My Face
03-10-2008, 01:43 PM
Because it you look at the original post, I got pulled up on my spelling after commenting on an invented word

Surely all language is invented, no?

gwezza
03-10-2008, 03:32 PM
It's not an invented word. Not any more than every other word is invented anyway.
And the second part was sarcasm.

:rolleyes:

Surely all language is invented, no?

I suppose so. Excuse me whiles I goes and eatses somethinger for my dinnering

*consulterizes dictionaryings*

But those words aren't in there :mad:

But I love you both anyway. Let's just leave it there.

Lick My Face
03-10-2008, 06:04 PM
:rolleyes:



I suppose so. Excuse me whiles I goes and eatses somethinger for my dinnering

*consulterizes dictionaryings*

But those words aren't in there :mad:

But I love you both anyway. Let's just leave it there.

You love me? Oh wow, didn't know that. That's brightened up my day. :happy:

J-man
20-10-2008, 01:58 AM
why is it so popular to post a gruesome story on this board and then see who can come up with the wittiest/funniest way to make light of it? sure its distant and doesn't affect you, but why be fucks about it?

mostly referring to the posts at the beginning of the thread, but really, i just had to ask because its a common trend in these threads.

Fernando
20-10-2008, 02:25 AM
why is it so popular to post a gruesome story on this board and then see who can come up with the wittiest/funniest way to make light of it? sure its distant and doesn't affect you, but why be fucks about it?

mostly referring to the posts at the beginning of the thread, but really, i just had to ask because its a common trend in these threads.
Because we all have sick senses of humor. In the totally absurd world we live in, it makes life much more fun. Try it sometime.

HarmonyLover
20-10-2008, 02:39 AM
The real question is what the FUCK is wrong with you people joking about this? This kind of murdering animal has to be destroyed like the mad dog he is.

HarmonyLover
20-10-2008, 02:39 AM
Because we all have sick senses of humor. In the totally absurd world we live in, it makes life much more fun. Try it sometime.

You're probably 15 to say something like that.

Luna.
20-10-2008, 02:44 AM
seeing words spelt the american and wrong way makes me feel funny :noey:

+1

Fernando
20-10-2008, 03:12 AM
The real question is what the FUCK is wrong with you people joking about this? This kind of murdering animal has to be destroyed like the mad dog he is.
A wee bit judgmental are we? If you're so blessedly normal, then, err...

...why are you digging around resurrecting threads like this?
You're probably 15 to say something like that.
No, I'm just mildy insane. I don't expect you would understand.

GorkerMorker
20-10-2008, 01:36 PM
The real question is what the FUCK is wrong with you people joking about this? This kind of murdering animal has to be destroyed like the mad dog he is.

Jokes are like beer and murder,

http://board.muse.mu/wikiroot/images/1/1c/Horatio.jpg

Incredibly cheap


YEEEAAAH!!!!

J-man
20-10-2008, 08:25 PM
they seem to revel in being emotionally distant jokers.. whatever. doesn't affect me, just sad to see, and makes healthy discussion of real issues difficult.

GorkerMorker
20-10-2008, 08:26 PM
Serious discussions with rational comments like:

The real question is what the FUCK is wrong with you people joking about this? This kind of murdering animal has to be destroyed like the mad dog he is.

There's nothing to discuss about this. We've had this discussion over and over again, it's not a big event, it's just a small sensational crime, it's not relevant, it's just there for people who can't grasp this bigger affairs going on in this world.

Fernando
20-10-2008, 08:44 PM
Want to know what should worry you more than those of us with a taste for sick humor?
in no particular order
AIDS
Starvation
Pointless wars
Genocide
Global economy failure

To point out a few. But wait! People who make sick jokes are a MUCH more pressing problem. So you better vent your rage at them first. Yessireebob.

Lick My Face
20-10-2008, 10:17 PM
they seem to revel in being emotionally distant jokers.. whatever. doesn't affect me, just sad to see, and makes healthy discussion of real issues difficult.

So why make such a big deal out of it as to resurrect my thread?

Murder happens in the world. Get over it. Crying over everyone is pointless.

Fernando
21-10-2008, 12:20 AM
Crying over everyone is pointless.
Well in places where they have major water problems, it's like donating to someone who has a better chance of survival than yourself :LOL:

J-man
21-10-2008, 02:21 AM
So why make such a big deal out of it as to resurrect my thread?

Murder happens in the world. Get over it. Crying over everyone is pointless.

resurrecting your thread? it was two threads from the top. if you guys believe that joking about people who die has more point then '"crying" over it, if thats what i was doing, then fucking go ahead, its not me who is burdened with such a pitiful attitude.

and if you dont know its bad when you are defending making light of human deaths, then you're too far gone in any case. Sure they happen all the time, and clearly you are desensitized to them, but is it too much too ask how it is attractive to ridicule them in these threads, which is all i did?

and as for this fernando kid... if somehow you got from my post that i was venting rage or thought that your petty jokes are more important than the aforementioned issues, you are clearly delusional/can't read. i asked why you joke about these things. thats it. talk about overreacting.

Fernando
21-10-2008, 02:33 AM
WHY SO SERIOUS?
Pretty much sums up my views on your issues with it. Your self-righteous attitude makes you look ridiculous when you say that the perpetrator should be killed "like a mad dog," I believe you said? Because capital punishment will really solve the underlying problems with society that cause this sort of crime to take place in the first place.

J-man
21-10-2008, 02:35 AM
WHY SO SERIOUS?
Pretty much sums up my views on your issues with it. Your self-righteous attitude makes you look ridiculous when you say that the perpetrator should be killed "like a mad dog," I believe you said? Because capital punishment will really solve the underlying problems with society that cause this sort of crime to take place in the first place.


so.. translation... "I got nothing.. here, lemme put words in your mouth that you did not say." Please quote the post where i said that if you are going to rag on me.

Fernando
21-10-2008, 02:39 AM
so.. translation... "I got nothing.. here, lemme put words in your mouth that you did not say." Please quote the post where i said that if you are going to rag on me.
Oh, my bad, I was thinking of the other guy who was complaining about tasteless jokes. I wasn't aware there were two of you.

GorkerMorker
21-10-2008, 08:32 AM
joking[/I] about people who die has more point then '"crying" over it
Never thought it was, it's both equally pointless, at least the jokes are amusing. But it does make me curious, what do you really think the point of this thread is? The fact alone that this thread is up there with housing crisis and the presidential election is so ridiculously absurd that it's just begging for this treatment.
and if you dont know its bad when you are defending making light of human deaths, then you're too far gone in any case.

It all depends on which human died. Rich Western people who dying trough a fucked up society is quite funny, however, kids dying form aids, war or starvation is far less funny.

Sexy Pankhurst
21-10-2008, 06:58 PM
Patricia Kaliszeski, 58, who was found in her bed at home with her throat cut and multiple stab wounds to her neck.

guess he bought
http://www.neonsign.com/eng_tackers/images/redstripetin.jpg

(even I think that's harsh).

GorkerMorker
21-10-2008, 08:21 PM
That comment is just so offensive, it's

http://board.muse.mu/wikiroot/images/1/1c/Horatio.jpg

Unbeerable.


YEEEAAAH!!!

Problemfanatique
21-10-2008, 08:37 PM
I don't get why someone would do that for a large amount of money, let alone a beer...

Edit: Also, I am both disgusted and infuriated that the kid victimised the lamp.

screwdriver
21-10-2008, 08:45 PM
No it wasn't. All spelling changes over time, or in the case of American spelling, degenerated over time.

oh yes it was...check it out..it was when Webster published the first American dictionary, he wanted to seperate us from other English speaking countries to make us more independent

Lick My Face
21-10-2008, 08:52 PM
That comment is just so offensive, it's

http://board.muse.mu/wikiroot/images/1/1c/Horatio.jpg

Unbeerable.


YEEEAAAH!!!

:LOL:

Oh Lt. Horatio, when are you inappropriate?

GorkerMorker
21-10-2008, 08:54 PM
oh yes it was...check it out..it was when Webster published the first American dictionary, he wanted to seperate us from other English speaking countries to make us more independent

Oh, right. A bit lame though, I would've gone all the way and make American totally different and confusing from the Brits. Really, who's going to take identity out of replacing a few 's's with 'z's, and scrapping a few 'u's out of 'ou's?

Lick My Face
21-10-2008, 08:57 PM
Oh, right. A bit lame though, I would've gone all the way and make American totally different and confusing from the Brits. Really, who's going to take identity out of replacing a few 's's with 'z's, and scrapping a few 'u's out of 'ou's?

Yeeeeeah, identity comes from invading other nations for no apparent reason...

Fernando
21-10-2008, 10:25 PM
I don't get why someone would do that for a large amount of money, let alone a beer...

Edit: Also, I am both disgusted and infuriated that the kid victimised the lamp.
Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but didn't the victim come at the kid with a knife, then he disarmed her and stabbed her? My guess would be that he was pretty scared. Regardless of right and wrong, I would say that his response to the imminent danger was fairly natural.

HarmonyLover
21-10-2008, 10:41 PM
Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but didn't the victim come at the kid with a knife, then he disarmed her and stabbed her? My guess would be that he was pretty scared. Regardless of right and wrong, I would say that his response to the imminent danger was fairly natural.

Hello? He invaded HER house, SHE was DEFENDING herself! Are you people so sick and demented as to have NO MORAL COMPASS????

Juuso
21-10-2008, 10:44 PM
Hello? He invaded HER house, SHE was DEFENDING herself! Are you people so sick and demented as to have NO MORAL COMPASS????Or maybe we can look at issues from a broader perspective than, let me think...a traditionally christian narrowminded perspective?

Wendigo
21-10-2008, 10:57 PM
In the province of the mind, what one believes to be true either is true or becomes true within certain limits, to be found experientially and experimentally. These limits are beliefs to be transcended.
Hidden from one's self is a covert set of beliefs that control one's thinking, one's actions, and one's feeling.
The covert set of hidden beliefs is the limiting set of beliefs to be transcended.

Fernando
21-10-2008, 11:24 PM
Hello? He invaded HER house, SHE was DEFENDING herself! Are you people so sick and demented as to have NO MORAL COMPASS????
I never said anything about being moral, but it's not rocket science; if anybody ever came at you with a knife with obvious intent to hurt or kill you, you would presumably defend yourself to the best of your ability. Now stop making an ass of yourself.

GorkerMorker
22-10-2008, 06:33 PM
Hello? He invaded HER house, SHE was DEFENDING herself! Are you people so sick and demented as to have NO MORAL COMPASS????

What the hell is a moral compass?

Juuso
22-10-2008, 06:37 PM
What the hell is a moral compass?

Must be some facebook gadget like the political compass.

GorkerMorker
22-10-2008, 06:55 PM
I just imagined some weird device with a pedometer as bonus.

Problemfanatique
22-10-2008, 07:14 PM
Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but didn't the victim come at the kid with a knife, then he disarmed her and stabbed her? My guess would be that he was pretty scared. Regardless of right and wrong, I would say that his response to the imminent danger was fairly natural.

Yeah fair enough, the stabbing may have been in self defense..
But the article says that he issued "multiple stab wounds" to the lady's neck. Surely if his intent wasn't to kill the woman and only to defend himself, he would stop after causing only one wound.

"One witness told police that Tanguay "has claimed to have killed someone else in the past. He said he has a rule — if he finds someone in the house during a burglary, he has to kill them," according to a report filed by police."

I guess that answers your point :rolleyes:

Fernando
22-10-2008, 08:08 PM
A rule which pretty much guarantees a harsher prison sentence. Brilliant. I guess being extremely stupid does seem to be a common trait in criminals though.

Rhymes with Booze
22-10-2008, 11:03 PM
A rule which pretty much guarantees a harsher prison sentence. Brilliant. I guess being extremely stupid does seem to be a common trait in criminals though.

Same as anywhere else really--geniuses and fools. It's the people at both extremes that get the headlines.

Lick My Face
23-10-2008, 03:16 PM
Same as anywhere else really--geniuses and fools. It's the people at both extremes that get the headlines.

Well, middle-of-the-road is hardly front-page news, is it?

Fernando
23-10-2008, 07:43 PM
Same as anywhere else really--geniuses and fools. It's the people at both extremes that get the headlines.
Yeah, but criminals have fewer geniuses and more fools.