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Travisx2112
14-09-2008, 11:18 PM
How would you re order or put different songs on to any of the Muse albums if you had the chance? They can be B-sides, re-ordering the tracks, or getting rid of/replacing them with others.

I would get rid of the Assassin on BHAR, I think, and replace it with the GOB edit. I'd also get rid of the Butterflies and Hurricanes version without guitar, and replace it with one with guitar.

foxeylady
15-09-2008, 12:44 AM
I'm so used to the albums I would not re-order the tracks !

But I'd definitely add the B-sides... Actually that's what I did on iTunes : I added all the B-sides at the end of each album.

Milky Joe
15-09-2008, 11:56 AM
Take Feeling Good off Origin of Symmetry and you have the best album ever :yesey:

Clunge
15-09-2008, 12:09 PM
+1 to that.

LiT
15-09-2008, 01:03 PM
Take Feeling Good off Origin of Symmetry and you have the best album ever :yesey:

Disagreed.

Raiko
15-09-2008, 01:36 PM
I wouldn't change a lot to be honest. I would drop The Small Print, Endlessly and Thoughts of a Dying athiest from Absolution and replace them with The Groove and Fury. I'd then swap Soldier's Poem for Endlessly on Black Holes & Revelations.

As for Origin, I think it's perfect. Wouldn't touch it at all.

trvrphlps
15-09-2008, 02:11 PM
Take Feeling Good off Origin of Symmetry and you have the best album ever :yesey:

you sir, are correct

Max
15-09-2008, 02:17 PM
Replace Invincible with Glorious on Black Holes & Revelations, then it's a slightly more enticing listen.

trvrphlps
15-09-2008, 02:19 PM
get rid of interlude and replace it wish nishe on absolution.

its a pointless part of the album and i thing nishe is at least more listenable than a distorted version of adagio for strings

CountDracula
15-09-2008, 03:58 PM
I would mix showbiz and origin of symmetry making it a double album and that would be the best album to ever be heard on the face of earth :P

forevermusic
15-09-2008, 04:07 PM
Replace Interlude with Fury on Absolution, and replace Feeling Good with either Shrinking Universe or Dead Star on OoS.

forevermusic
15-09-2008, 04:09 PM
I wouldn't change a lot to be honest. I would drop The Small Print, Endlessly and Thoughts of a Dying athiest from Absolution and replace them with The Groove and Fury.

:eek:

Those three songs you would remove are very good. Why remove them?

Replace Interlude and also Soilders Poem off BHaR if anything.

Iddy
15-09-2008, 04:20 PM
Showbiz: Replace Overdue with Spiral Static, Escape with Recess or Yes Please.
OoS: Replace Feeling Good with Futurism and add Forced In as the first track (Like an intro) Best album ever :yesey:
Absolution: Replace FAWY with Eternally Missed, TOADA with Fury and add Dead Star to the tracklist in 2nd.
BHaR: Replace Assassin with the GOB edit, replace SP with Glorious, Easily with Starlight and put Crying Shame in somewhere.

Obi
15-09-2008, 04:33 PM
Recess and Nature_1 > most Showbiz tracks (apart from Sunburn, Muscle Museum, Showbiz, Unintended). They should both be on there.

"OoS: Replace Feeling Good with Futurism and add Forced In as the first track (Like an intro) Best album ever "

+1.
The greatest album ever would be:
1. Forced In
2. New Born
3. Bliss
4. Space Dementia
5. Hyper Music
6. Plug In Baby
7. Citizen Erased
8. Micro Cuts
9. Screenager
10. Dark Shines
11. Futurism
12. Megalomania

I love Absolution mostly the way it is but I've gone off Thoughts of a Dying Atheist recently. It's a fine song but doesn't fit in as well as I'd like. I think Eternally Missed would be fitted there. In fact EM could be on any album, it's that flipping good.

BHAR should have a rehaul.

1. Take a Bow
2. Starlight
3. Supermassive Black Hole
4. Map of the Problematique
5. Easily
6. Glorious
7. Assassin (GOB edit)
8. Crying Shame/Exo-Politics (unsure here)
9. City of Delusion
10. Hoodoo
11. Knights of Cydonia

Obi
16-09-2008, 03:47 PM
In fact. Re-ordered Absol today.

I really like this order.

1. Intro
2. AP
3. TIRO
4. Sing For Absolution
5. Stockholm Syndrome
6. Dead Star
7. Nishe
8. Hysteria
9. Blackout
10. Butterflies and Hurricanes
11. The Small Print
12. Endlessly
13. Eternally Missed
14. Ruled by Secrecy

:D

garseys
16-09-2008, 04:15 PM
Take Feeling Good off Origin of Symmetry and you have the best album ever :yesey:

+1 :yesey:

I'd rearrange BH&R

1.TaB
2.Starlight
3.SMBH
4.MoTP
5.Soldiers poem
6.Invincible
7.Assassin(GOB)
8.City of Delusion
9.Glorious
10.Hoodoo
11.Knights of Cydonia

forevermusic
16-09-2008, 06:32 PM
Re-order Absolution

1. Intro-Apocalypse Please
2. Time is Running Out
3. Sing for Absolution
4. Falling Away With You
5. Ruled by Secrecy
6. Dead Star
7. Hysteria
8. Blackout
9. Butterflies & Hurricanes
10. Stockholm Syndrome
11. The Small Print
12. Fury
13. Endlessly
14. Thoughts of a Dying Atheist

I think Ruled by Secrecy would be a good track to follow on from Falling Away with You which in turn could be a decent follow-on to Sing for Absolution.
Meanwhile, Thoughts of a Dying Atheist would be a good finale track as it seems to be a decent theme for an ending track.

Obi
16-09-2008, 06:36 PM
Re-order Absolution

1. Intro-Apocalypse Please
2. Time is Running Out
3. Sing for Absolution
4. Falling Away With You
5. Ruled by Secrecy
6. Dead Star
7. Hysteria
8. Blackout
9. Butterflies & Hurricanes
10. Stockholm Syndrome
11. The Small Print
12. Fury
13. Endlessly
14. Thoughts of a Dying Atheist

I think Ruled by Secrecy would be a good track to follow on from Falling Away with You which in turn could be a decent follow-on to Sing for Absolution.
Meanwhile, Thoughts of a Dying Atheist would be a good finale track as it seems to be a decent theme for an ending track.


Glad people agree with Dead Star being in there. Can't agree with the RbS thing though. And Eternally Missed SHOULD be in there.

I still hold:

1. Intro.
2. AP
3. TIRO
4. SFA
5. SS
6. Dead Star
7. Nishe
8. Hysteria
9. B&H
10. Blackout
11. TSP
12. Endlessly
13. Eternally Missed
14. RbS

forevermusic
16-09-2008, 06:43 PM
Glad people agree with Dead Star being in there. Can't agree with the RbS thing though. And Eternally Missed SHOULD be in there.


You can take it or leave it.

I don't really think the Intro should be a seperate track though.

Obi
16-09-2008, 06:45 PM
Aye, well it makes no difference to me there.

Intro can be in AP for all I care. It sounds pretty cool either way. As an album, the order would be fine with the tracks I added, I think.

Raiko
16-09-2008, 07:53 PM
:eek:

Those three songs you would remove are very good. Why remove them?

Replace Interlude and also Soilders Poem off BHaR if anything.

Don't like TOADA or TSP, and both along with the brilliant Endlessly just don't suit the album. They're the scruff of an otherwise perfectly crafted album. Interlude works well as an introduction to Hysteria. Without it you'd surely have to make it the album opener as it just doesn't flow off anything else.

Hopix
16-09-2008, 09:39 PM
Replace Invincible with Glorious on Black Holes & Revelations, then it's a slightly more enticing listen.

Noooo! get rid of SP and replace it with Glorious. Replace Ass with GOB edit. Shove Easily in place of Starlight. And Crying shame between Exo and COD. U have a perfect album!

Obi
19-09-2008, 04:43 PM
I've tinkered yet again but I think I've found my perfect list:

Showbiz needed a major upheval to be perfect, as good as it was anyway.
In the end I chose:
1. Sunburn
2. Recess
3. Nature_1
4. Minimum
5. Agitated
6. Showbiz
7. Unintended
8. Bedroom Acoustics
9. Muscle Museum
10. Uno
11. Spiral Static
12. Con-Science

I know that's virtually indistinguishable from the original album but I think I've essentially replaced the OK tracks with really good ones. Tracks like Falling Down, Escape and Overdue sound more like B-Sides than many of their B-Sides were! Nature_1 and Recess in particular needed to be on the album.

OOS I decided to stick Megalomania in first, but for a reason:
1. Megalomania
2. New Born
3. Bliss
4. Space Dementia
5. Hyper Music
6. Plug In Baby
7. Citizen Erased
8. Micro Cuts
9. Screenager
10. The Gallery
11. Hyper Chondriac Music

I really liked the idea of having both HM and HCM on the same album and also The Gallery sounded perfect on OOS. It leads well into HCM as well. I had Megalomania between them but it didn't sound right and then got a brainwave. I stuck it at the front.

Absolution also looks better now, I think.
1. Intro (again, it doesn't really matter. It's AP essentially. It's there so I can remember the tracklist right)
2. AP
3. TIRO
4. SFA
5. Stockholm
6. Dead Star (Absolution sounds better with a heavier track after SS. FAWY is great but doesn't work there for me.)
7. Nishe (After a suggestion that it sounded a lot better than Interlude. I agree.)
8. Hysteria
9. B&H
10. Blackout
11. TSP
12. In Your World (Felt we needed another song with a bit of oomph and the piano intro fits in well. Got rid of Endlessly because thematically it's not quite working.)
13. Eternally Missed (IMO, better than any other song on the album so should have been there.)
14. Ruled by Secrecy

BHAR was easiest. Removing Invincible was step 1. I don't hate this song but it really would have been better as single only. It's just so bland next to the rest of it. Soldier's Poem also had to go eventually although I debated about that one. I wanted to see Easily and Glorious on so I fitted them in pretty easily. Assassin gets the GOB edit.

1. ToB
2. Starlight
3. SMBH
4. MOTP
5. Easily
6. Glorious
7. Assassin GOB
8. Exo-Politics
9. CoD
10. Hoodoo
11. KoC

Right, that's it perfect. I'll leave it as that now and shut up. Unless people disagree and can think of something better.

Burning_October
19-09-2008, 07:02 PM
BHaR:

1. Take a Bow
2. Supermassive Black Hole
3. MOTP
5. Easily
6. Starlight
7. Glorious
8. Debase Masons Grog
9. City Of Delusion
10. Hoodoo
11. Knights of Cydonia

Static Shadows
19-09-2008, 08:26 PM
I've rearranged BH&R to:

1) Take A Bow
2) Supermassive Black Hole
3) Map Of The Problematique
4) Glorious
5) Starlight
6) Assassin (Grand Omega Bosses Edit)
7) Crying Shame
8) Exo Politics
9) City Of Delusion
10) Hoodoo
11) Knights Of Cydonia

And that order makes it my second favourite Muse album (after OOS of course). :cool:

forevermusic
20-09-2008, 09:36 AM
After thinking it over, I have changed my preferred Absolution tracklist and have gone for:

1. Intro-Apocalypse Please
2. Time is Running Out
3. Sing for Absolution
4. Dead Star
5. Stockholm Syndrome
6. Falling Away With You
7. Hysteria
8. Eternally Missed
9. Blackout
10. Butterflies and Hurricanes
11. Fury
12. Endlessly
13. The Small Print
14. Ruled by Secrecy

I like ToDA, but I think it's better off as a B-Side or on an extended BHaR.

Travisx2112
28-09-2008, 05:38 AM
I re did BHAR and now I couldnt listen to it another way:

Take A Bow
Starlight
Supermassive Black Hole
Map of the Problematique
Soldier's Poem
Invincible
Assasin (GOB Edit)
Crying Shame
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Glorious
Knights of Cydonia

That's made of win! :)

HarmonyLover
28-09-2008, 05:46 AM
I like ya'll thinking you know how to put the albums together better then Muse....

PocketRockets
28-09-2008, 09:11 AM
I like ya'll thinking you know how to put the albums together better then Muse....

I wouldn't say we 'know better', it's just personal preference.

Max
28-09-2008, 09:12 AM
I wouldn't say we 'know better', it's just personal preference.

Yeah but 90% of the people in the Muse area have never heard of that term, so they're resigned to having their opinion stand as the law (according to them).

Henz
28-09-2008, 09:24 AM
Glorious could fit between MotP and SP.

Fury could fit between B+H and TSP.

I like Assassin GOB, but I don't agree it's better for BH&R than the shorter version. For better or worse, I think the short Assassin does its job perfectly where it is on the album.

forevermusic
28-09-2008, 09:57 AM
Ok, BHaR edited

1. Map of the Problematique
2. Starlight
3. Supermassive Black Hole
4. Crying Shame
5. Glorious
6. Invincible
7. Assassin
8. Exo-Politics
9. City of Delusion
10. Hoodoo
11. Take a Bow
12. Knights of Cydonia

Horizon
28-09-2008, 04:29 PM
I wouldn't change a lot to be honest. I would drop The Small Print, Endlessly and Thoughts of a Dying athiest from Absolution and replace them with The Groove and Fury. I'd then swap Soldier's Poem for Endlessly on Black Holes & Revelations.

As for Origin, I think it's perfect. Wouldn't touch it at all.

Go and listen to The Small Print again. I can't believe you just said that

x

Horizon
28-09-2008, 04:33 PM
Personally, I would replace Megalomania and Screenager with In Your World and Yes Please. This would transform Origin of Symmetry into my favourite album ever. Right now it's just behind ABBA Gold

x

Idiot Drugs
28-09-2008, 04:49 PM
If I had to Change anything it would be

BHaR

1)Take A Bow
2)Glorious (Flows well between TAB and Starlight)
3)Starlight
4)Supermassive Black Hole
5)MOTP
6)Easily
7)Invincible
8)Assassin (GOB)
9)Exo-Politics
10)City of Delusion
11)Hoodoo
12)Knights of Cydonia

Obi
28-09-2008, 07:04 PM
Personally, I would replace Megalomania and Screenager with In Your World and Yes Please. This would transform Origin of Symmetry into my favourite album ever. Right now it's just behind ABBA Gold

x


:eek:

yoman297
25-10-2011, 11:17 PM
Since Muse are IMO horrible at ordering songs on the albums, re-order one of the Muse albums. I'll pick Absolution. You can add B-sides if you want to, but don't abuse it, keep some album songs on. (ie filling Showbiz with Bsides).

1. Stockholm Syndrome
2. TIRO
3. Fury (Some kind of transition between TIRO and Fury)
4. The Groove (another transition)
5. Intro/Apocalypse Please
6. Butterflies and Hurricanes
7. The Small Print
8. SFA
9. Blackout
10. Endlessly
11. Eternally Missed (more intense recording)
12. Falling Away With You
13. Interlude
14. Hysteria (the hit that is played live at the beginning)
15. Ruled By Secrecy (sort of like an encore, comes in a few seconds [10-15] after the end of Hysteria)

Tjet
26-10-2011, 12:01 AM
Since Muse are IMO horrible at ordering songs on the albums
Indeed they are, but somehow you managed to do an even worse job.

Seaking
26-10-2011, 12:20 AM
Indeed they are, but somehow you managed to do an even worse job.

I agree, your listing is ... no offense but no flow at all

Jobby
26-10-2011, 01:10 AM
The Groove > Intro = :stunned:

Mind you, mine's probably got quite a few flaws too...but here goes:

Origin of Symmetry:

New Born
Bliss
In Your World
Hyper Music
Plug in Baby
Dead Star
Citizen Erased
Micro Cuts
Can't Take My Eyes Off You
Space Dementia
Dark Shines
Megalomania

OoS isn't far from perfection as it is but I had to choose my favourite album so :p (prepares for the "what a shit idea" brigade)

fabripav
26-10-2011, 01:05 PM
Abso is my favourite album, but I'd still change something:

1. Intro + AP (should be together)
2. Time is Running Out
3. Stockholm Syndrome
4. Sing For Absolution
5. Falling Away With You
6. Blackout
7. Interlude (maybe a little shorter) + Hysteria (unique track again)
8. Fury
9. Butterflies and Hurricanes
10. The Small Print
11. Eternally Missed (without the first 7 seconds)
12. Endlessly
13. Ruled By Secrecy

WutDaFucksy
26-10-2011, 01:22 PM
1. Intro + Apocalypse Please
2. Butterflies & Hurricanes
3. The Small Print
4. Stockholm Syndrome
5. Sing For Absolution
6. Endlessly
7. Blackout
8. Fury
9. Time is Running Out
10. Interlude + Hysteria
11. Ruled By Secrecy

I'd drop Falling Away With You and Thoughts of a Dying Atheist to b-sides/bonus tracks and just have Fury instead.

yoman297
26-10-2011, 06:25 PM
Indeed they are, but somehow you managed to do an even worse job.

Yeah I know... some songs just don't flow at all. I just had to put some of the other songs somewhere... I was trying to think outside the box.

EDIT: Any suggestions to improve?

Jobby
26-10-2011, 06:36 PM
I just had to put some of the other songs somewhere...

Considering you said Muse do a terrible job at ordering their albums, you appear to use the same method as them :LOL:

Tjet
26-10-2011, 06:41 PM
Yeah I know... some songs just don't flow at all. I just had to put some of the other songs somewhere... I was trying to think outside the box.

EDIT: Any suggestions to improve?
Start from the beginning.

But to mention one thing, What's wrong with Intro+Apocalypse Please opening?

Intro
Apocalypse Please
Time Is Running Out
Stockholm Syndrome
The Small Print
Butterflies & Hurricanes
Blackout
Falling Away With You
Interlude
Hysteria
Fury
Sing For Absolution
Ruled By Secrecy

Something like that maybe. Haven't listened to it, so not sure how well it works.

Seaking
26-10-2011, 06:52 PM
New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Plug in Baby
Micro Cuts
Citizen Erased (Synth leading into MC is gone)
Screenager (Piano)
Nature_1
Dark Shines
Megalomania

Made very few changes as for the most part I love the listing for the first half of OoS

Tjet
26-10-2011, 06:55 PM
New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Dead Star
Plug In Baby
Citizen Erased
Screenager
Micro Cuts
Darkshines
Megalomania

The other albums are beyond rescue.

Jobby
26-10-2011, 06:58 PM
Citizen Erased (Synth leading into MC is gone)
Screenager (Piano)


I like this but not so much the whole Dark Shines > Nature_1 > Megalomania bit

I think it might be interesting to see the album mixed around to make Citizen Erased the last song...or am I being stupid?

Tjet
26-10-2011, 06:59 PM
I like this but not so much the whole Dark Shines > Nature_1 > Megalomania bit

I think it might be interesting to see the album mixed around to make Citizen Erased the last song...or am I being stupid?
I think the problem is that Megalomania only really works as a closer, and leaving it out of the album would be a huge mistake.

Seaking
26-10-2011, 07:19 PM
I think the problem is that Megalomania only really works as a closer, and leaving it out of the album would be a huge mistake.

Ya I was working with this and I really like the idea of moving Nature_1 to the album and to not make it too guitar based moving screenager to piano but I wasn't sure if I wanted Screenager -- Nature_1 or Screenager --- Dark Shines. But I do agree Megalomania only works as a closer where SD works as an intro to Heavier things and CE kicks in a softer piano section.

Espectro Cuatro
27-10-2011, 02:02 AM
The Resistance + BH&R mashup.

Uprising
Supermassive Black Hole
Map of the Problematique
Resistance
United States of Eurasia
Unnatural Selection
Exo-Politics
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Feeling Good
Knights of Cydonia (shortened WatU intro)

Needs some work but it'll do for now. :p

Hennersby
27-10-2011, 02:30 AM
For a while, my BHAR has gone:

Take a Bow
Map of the Problematique
Supermassive Black Hole
Starlight
Easliy
Exo-Politics
Assassin (Grand Omega Bosses)
Knights of Cydonia
Glorious
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Soldier's Poem
Invincible

It goes Electronic->rock->rockyer->latin rock->end-ful ending. It seems the totally logical order... it sounds brilliant too

WutDaFucksy
27-10-2011, 02:53 AM
Take a Bow
Map of the Problematique
Crying Shame
Supermassive Black Hole
Exo-Politics
Starlight
Glorious
Hoodoo
City of Delusion
Assassin (Grand Omega Bosses)
Knights of Cydonia

Bonus iTunes tracks/b-sides/extras:
Easily
Soldiers Poem
Invincible

Kueller917
27-10-2011, 03:13 AM
The Resistance + BH&R mashup.

Uprising
Supermassive Black Hole
Map of the Problematique
Resistance
United States of Eurasia
Unnatural Selection
Exo-Politics
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Feeling Good
Knights of Cydonia (shortened WatU intro)



I think Hoodoo flows well into KoC anyways.

knightsmuse
27-10-2011, 06:13 AM
The Resistance
- Uprising
- Resistance
- Undisclosed Desires
- United States Of Eurasia
- Guiding Light
- Neutron Star Collision
- MK Ultra
- I Belong To You
- Overture
- Cross Pollination
- Redemption

Travis III
27-10-2011, 07:57 AM
- Remove Escape and Overdue from Showbiz, add Nishe on there somewhere.

- I wouldn't change anything about OoS in terms of track order.

- Add Dead Star and all the b-sides of the era on Absolution with absolutely no regard for consistency, cohesion or any of those other things that Muse really don't do well, then remaster the whole thing to make it sound less dull, and you'd have a pretty killer double LP.

- I might stick Glorious onto BH&R somehow, maybe between Take a Bow and Starlight?

- NSC could replace Guiding Light, I guess.

fabripav
27-10-2011, 09:46 AM
The Resistance + BH&R mashup.

Uprising
Supermassive Black Hole
Map of the Problematique
Resistance
United States of Eurasia
Unnatural Selection
Exo-Politics
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Feeling Good
Knights of Cydonia (shortened WatU intro)

Needs some work but it'll do for now. :p

:stunned:

alehartl
31-10-2011, 01:48 PM
Sing for Absolution
Fury
Endlessly
Stockholm Syndrome
Thoughts of a Dying Atheist
Eternally Missed
Falling Away with You
Interlude
Intro
Apocalypse Please
Hysteria
Blackout
Butterflies and Hurricanes
Ruled by Secrecy

Might be better to just drop Thoughts, and it's a bit of a heavy listen, but I kind of like it.

Tjet
31-10-2011, 02:04 PM
Sing for Absolution
Fury
Endlessly
Stockholm Syndrome
Thoughts of a Dying Atheist
Eternally Missed
Falling Away with You
Interlude
Intro
Apocalypse Please
Hysteria
Blackout
Butterflies and Hurricanes
Ruled by Secrecy

Might be better to just drop Thoughts, and it's a bit of a heavy listen, but I kind of like it.
Hmm, explain.

alehartl
31-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Hmm, explain.

Kind of a break in the middle of the album, since the start is pretty heavy. SFA has the ambient intro bit and just has the atmosphere of an opener. Thought it would be interesting to have basically two halves to the album, and if you break it up with the interlude-intro-AP section it's kind of like starting over. Which I guess could kill the flow more than the actual listing...

Tjet
31-10-2011, 02:22 PM
Wouldn't it make more sense to put Endlessly after Eternally Missed or Hysteria?

dontask
31-10-2011, 03:39 PM
Take A Bow
Starlight
Supermassive Black Hole
Map of the Problematique
Soldiers Poem
Invincible
Glorious
Assassin (GOB)
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Knights of Cydonia

dontask
31-10-2011, 03:41 PM
We Are The Universe
Uprising
MK Ultra
Helsinki Jam
Undisclosed Desires
I Belong To You
Exogenesis

WutDaFucksy
31-10-2011, 04:30 PM
Black Holes & Revelations:
Take A Bow
Map of the Problematique
Crying Shame
Supermassive Black Hole
Assassin (GOB)
Glorious
Starlight
Hoodoo
City of Delusion
Knights of Cydonia

The Resistance:
We Are The Universe
Uprising
MK Ultra
Helsinki Jam
Unnatural Selection
I Belong To You
Exogenesis

MartinSM
31-10-2011, 11:27 PM
I've always thought The Resitance would have been much better if the order was better. The way it is is a bit of a mess, there's no narrative that a title like The Resistance and songs like Uprising would suggest, and the theme doesn't always stick, Undisclosed Desires doesn't really have anything to do with the concept of the album at all. If the tracks were rearranged, a number of stories could be told, depending on the order. It could follow the 'narrator' as he becomes more involved with this resistance movement, by starting with UD and IBTY, and progressing through Resistance and the idea of peacefull protest and resisting through emotion, to all out violent, physical resistance on Uprising and Unnatural Selection. The possition of USoE would be pivotal in deciding whether the resistance is successfull or not, at the end would sugest they failed, closer to the start it would simply describe the setting. To a lesser extent this also works for Guiding Light, which wouldn't be so bad it TR was more of a concept album. Exogenesis would always have to be at the end, and could also be used as an epilogue, suggesting that the system and/or the resistance to it have brought about the end of the world.

I've probably well over-thought this, so on a simpler level, I'd move IBTY, it kills what would be a fantastic transition from MKULTRA into Exogenesis, and I'd think about moving US earlier, to distribute the rock parts better. If it was up to me, Uprising would have the riff and more prominant guitar to make it more similar to the live version, which simply blows the album version away.

i.wish.i.RAWR!
01-11-2011, 01:45 AM
My album re-orders as of now:


Showbiz:
Sunburn
Recess
Host
Escape
Cave
Showbiz
Unintended
Shine Acoustic
Muscle Museum (Alternate Intro Version)
HTAILY
Uno
Minimum
Spiral Static
Con-Science

OoS:
Forced In
New Born
Bliss
SD
HM
PiB
Dead Star
CE
Micro Cuts
Screenager
Dark Shines
Futurism
Megalomania
HCM

Absolution
Intro
AP
TiRO
SFA
SS
FAWY
Nishe
Hysteria
B&H
Blackout
Eternally Missed
In Your World
Fury
RBS

BHaR
TaB
MotP
SMBH
Starlight
Easily
Glorious
Invincible
Crying Shame
Exo Politics
Assassin
Bedroom Acoustics
CoD
Hoodoo
KoC


Might do some more tweaking but I'm happy with these so far...obviously some have had more changes than others...will explain my reasoning if anyone is curious/wants to tell me how horrible these all are. :p

alehartl
01-11-2011, 05:29 AM
Wouldn't it make more sense to put Endlessly after Eternally Missed or Hysteria?

Might be right, I just wasn't sure if that beginning would be a little too heavy without breaking it up with Endlessly. Though, I guess that worked with Origin.

Nipso
02-11-2011, 10:48 PM
I've always thought The Resitance would have been much better if the order was better. The way it is is a bit of a mess, there's no narrative that a title like The Resistance and songs like Uprising would suggest, and the theme doesn't always stick, Undisclosed Desires doesn't really have anything to do with the concept of the album at all. If the tracks were rearranged, a number of stories could be told, depending on the order. It could follow the 'narrator' as he becomes more involved with this resistance movement, by starting with UD and IBTY, and progressing through Resistance and the idea of peacefull protest and resisting through emotion, to all out violent, physical resistance on Uprising and Unnatural Selection. The possition of USoE would be pivotal in deciding whether the resistance is successfull or not, at the end would sugest they failed, closer to the start it would simply describe the setting. To a lesser extent this also works for Guiding Light, which wouldn't be so bad it TR was more of a concept album. Exogenesis would always have to be at the end, and could also be used as an epilogue, suggesting that the system and/or the resistance to it have brought about the end of the world.

I've probably well over-thought this, so on a simpler level, I'd move IBTY, it kills what would be a fantastic transition from MKULTRA into Exogenesis, and I'd think about moving US earlier, to distribute the rock parts better. If it was up to me, Uprising would have the riff and more prominant guitar to make it more similar to the live version, which simply blows the album version away.
I actually completely agree. It's such a shame how fans can think of better track orders than the band themselves.

Jobby
04-11-2011, 04:26 PM
Absolution

Intro
Apocalypse Please
Hysteria
Sing For Absolution
Eternally Missed
Endlessly
Falling Away With You
Butterflies And Hurricanes
Thoughts Of A Dying Atheist
Time Is Running Out
Stockholm Syndrome
Fury
Ruled By Secrecy

Seaking
04-11-2011, 07:02 PM
Absolution

Intro
Apocalypse Please
Hysteria
Sing For Absolution
Eternally Missed
Endlessly
Falling Away With You
Butterflies And Hurricanes
Thoughts Of A Dying Atheist
Time Is Running Out
Fury
Ruled By Secrecy

No offense but did you actually just take Stockholm Syndrome out of Absolution .....

Jobby
05-11-2011, 04:45 PM
No offense but did you actually just take Stockholm Syndrome out of Absolution .....

You know that feeling you get in your gut when you just know you've forgotten something but you have no idea what it is?

I had that feeling all the way through making this. :facepalm:

I'll just edit it in now...

yoman297
07-11-2011, 12:18 AM
Wouldn't it make more sense to put Endlessly after Eternally Missed or Hysteria?

Endlessly sounds best after EM, IMO.

A Citizen Erased99
08-11-2011, 05:08 AM
Muse is one of the few bands in which I am usually always very satisfied with their respective albums track-lists....

I would have added Fury to Absolution and I would have added either Easily or Crying Shame to Black Holes but thats about all i'd change.

And I am VERY particular about the tracklist on an album. Muse is just good at ordering their songs in a very listenable order IMO.

Jobby
08-11-2011, 03:27 PM
Muse is one of the few bands in which I am usually always very satisfied with their respective albums track-lists....

I would have added Fury to Absolution and I would have added either Easily or Crying Shame to Black Holes but thats about all i'd change.

And I am VERY particular about the tracklist on an album. Muse is just good at ordering their songs in a very listenable order IMO.

So you like the whole 'Map Of The Problematique > Soldier's Poem' thing on BHAR?

Don't get me wrong, I love both songs but that's a terrible choice to make in terms of flow.

Jobby
04-04-2012, 12:10 AM
Boredom bump.

BH&R

Take A Bow
Supermassive Black Hole
Easily
Invincible
Cyring Shame
Starlight
Exo-Politics (Burning Bandits Version)
Map Of The Problematique
Assassin (Debase Masons Grog Version)
Hoodoo
City Of Delusion
Knights Of Cydonia

Showbiz

Uno
Muscle Museum
Recess
Agitated
Cave
Falling Down
Sunburn
Unintended
Showbiz
Instant Messanger
Ashamed
Forced In
Hate This & I'll Love You

Henz
06-04-2012, 01:19 PM
Swap The Small Print for Fury. Matt was right DAMMIT.

Resistance is shite, but I made an EP playlist a while ago that included Exogenesis, Soaked, Resistance and the instrumental for United States. That was quite nice.

oliviafellows
06-04-2012, 01:25 PM
I think their later albums tend to be structured a little better. The way I see it is BH&R and TResistance make their beginnings and endings clear which matches their live performances. Whereas albums prior to BH&R are a little unclear. Wow, that sounded mechanical.

Still, I wouldn't change a thing, it wouldn't feel right... grown up with all of them for too long now :)

~ Olivia

sebby aka pup
06-04-2012, 01:43 PM
Knights of Cydonia
Supermassive Black Hole
Map of the Problematique
Starlight
Assassin GOB
Exo Politics
Hoodoo
City of Delusion
Invincible
Glorious
Take a Bow

Princess of Promise
06-04-2012, 02:31 PM
Basically re-order and swap out songs from Absolution, there was barely any flow at all. Can't think of a list but that's what I would do.

Jobby
19-05-2012, 11:31 PM
Absolution:

Intro
Apocalypse Please
Sing For Absolution
Falling Away With You
Interlude
Hysteria
Stockholm Syndrome
Time Is Running Out
Blackout
Eternally Missed
Endlessly
Butterflies & Hurricanes
Fury
Ruled By Secrecy

BHAR:

Take A Bow
Map Of The Problematique
Supermassive Black Hole
Crying Shame or Man Of Mystery
Invincible
Easily
Assassin (Clean GOB Edit)
Glorious
Hoodoo
City Of Delusion
Knights Of Cydonia

Espectro Cuatro
20-05-2012, 09:23 AM
New Born
Time Is Running Out
Sing for Absolution
Plug In Baby
Citizen Erased
Interlude
Hysteria
Butterflies & Hurricanes
The Small Print
Bliss
Hyper Music
Stockholm Syndrome

I call it... Absolymmetry.

Riveon
20-05-2012, 09:45 AM
Resistance is shite, but I made an EP playlist a while ago that included Exogenesis, Soaked, Resistance and the instrumental for United States. That was quite nice.
...implying Soaked isn't shite...

Dee3Dee
20-05-2012, 09:48 AM
...implying Soaked isn't shite...

It's not.

Riveon
20-05-2012, 09:49 AM
It's not.
I must say I wouldn't have expected you to go to its defense. :p
Edit: To elaborate, I'll concede that the verses are good, as well as the intro, even if it needed more production. But the choruses are abysmally soppy and come across as generic.

Seaking
20-05-2012, 03:41 PM
I must say I wouldn't have expected you to go to its defense. :p
Edit: To elaborate, I'll concede that the verses are good, as well as the intro, even if it needed more production. But the choruses are abysmally soppy and come across as generic.

Of course it need more production it was a demo tape. Never intended for a full (Muse) release. It's a great song though. Wish they had done something with it.

Dee3Dee
20-05-2012, 03:49 PM
Of course it need more production it was a demo tape. Never intended for a full (Muse) release. It's a great song though. Wish they had done something with it.

This.

Adam Lambert ruined it.

bumpypotato
23-05-2012, 10:50 AM
Adam Lambert ruined it.

What a shocker.

Dave
23-05-2012, 11:31 PM
Oos:
New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Futurism
Hyper Music
Plug In Baby
Dead Star
Citizen Erased
Micro Cuts
Screenager
Dark Shines
Shrinking Universe
Megalomania

fabripav
24-05-2012, 12:34 AM
Oos:
New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Futurism
Hyper Music
Plug In Baby
Dead Star
Citizen Erased
Micro Cuts
Screenager
Dark Shines
Shrinking Universe
Megalomania

:awesome:

Henz
25-05-2012, 07:16 PM
...implying Soaked isn't shite...

It's not, but not a classic either. I included it because it would fit soncially with the other songs.

yoman297
05-06-2012, 12:38 AM
Absolution

Intro
Apocalypse Please
Time is Running Out
Eternally Missed
Butterflies & Hurricanes
Sing For Absolution
Stockholm Syndrome
The Small Print (Here is when I began to lose grip on any flow)
The Groove
Endlessly
Blackout
Falling Away With You
Interlude
Hysteria (this transition is horrible... needed some bsides :P)
Ruled By Secrecy

I tried a different approach...

AloFury
06-06-2012, 04:11 PM
Guess its too soon to say to redo The 2nd Law with less Dubstep and more Nine Inch Nails influence..

Teaser trailer sounds epic.. Muse are certainly not stuck in a genre

fabripav
20-06-2012, 04:20 PM
Origin Of Symmetry
New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Plug In Baby
Citizen Erased
Micro Cuts
Futurism
Dead Star
Darkshines
Megalomania

Absolution
Intro
Apocalypse Please
Sing For Absolution
Eternally Missed
Stockholm Syndrome
Interlude
Hysteria
Blackout
Butterflies & Hurricanes (Remix With Additional Guitars)
The Small Print
Fury
The Groove
Ruled By Secrecy

Black Holes & Revelations
Take a Bow
Supermassive Black Hole
Starlight
Map of the Problematique
Easily
Glorious
Invincible
Assassin (Clean Omega Bosses)
Exo-Politics
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Knights of Cydonia

yoman297
11-08-2012, 01:00 AM
Showbiz B Sides

Jimmy Kane
Yes Please
Recess
Minimum
Agitated
Con-Science
Spiral Static
Falling Down
Pink Ego Box
Do We Need This?
Nishe
Twin
Coma
Forced In
Host
Ashamed

Sir Arthur Erased
11-08-2012, 08:11 AM
My Very Altered OoS Playlist.

New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Plug In Baby
Dr Who Theme (Murray Gold)
Citizen Erased
Cross-Polination
Futurism
Dead Star
Interlude (Absolution)
Megalomania

Despite my love for Hyper Music, Darkshines, and Micro Cuts, I decided to completely rework OoS without them :p Interlude works really well for winding down from the pace of Dead Star to the slow epic closer of Megalomania. and Cross-Polination works beautifully after CE. I put the Dr Who Theme in there simply because I wanted to, and I think it fits nicely.

I was also toying with putting Shrinking Universe in between Futurism and Dead Star, but decided that section flowed better without it.

Clunge
11-08-2012, 08:16 AM
Dead Star
New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Plug In Baby
Citizen Erased
Micro Cuts
Screenager
Darkshines
Megalomania

Absolute perfection.

Kueller917
11-08-2012, 08:28 AM
I couldn't put Dead Star into OoS anywhere except between PiB and CE.

Jobby
11-08-2012, 10:17 AM
I couldn't put Dead Star into OoS anywhere except between PiB and CE.

Yeah, that feels like that's where it's 'meant' to be, it just flows perfectly.

NixonNUFC
12-08-2012, 04:18 PM
Take Feeling Good off Origin of Symmetry and you have the best album ever :yesey:

Yes, and replace it with Futurism

Seaking
12-08-2012, 04:47 PM
Origin Of Symmetry
New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Plug In Baby
Citizen Erased
Micro Cuts
Futurism
Dead Star
Darkshines
Megalomania

Absolution

Butterflies & Hurricanes (Remix With Additional Guitars)



Oh God no.

fabripav
12-08-2012, 05:12 PM
Oh God no.

Your post is against B&H single remix or also against my OoS re-order? :phu:

Seaking
12-08-2012, 05:13 PM
Your post is against B&H single remix or also against my OoS re-order? :phu:

Both (although slightly more towards the single remix).

fabripav
12-08-2012, 05:17 PM
Both (although slightly more towards the single remix).

I like it better :'(

And what's wrong with the OoS re-order?

Tjet
12-08-2012, 05:22 PM
I like it better :'(

And what's wrong with the OoS re-order?
It's waaaay too much. You need some soft songs there, man. Also Dead Star needs to be after HM.

Seaking
12-08-2012, 05:24 PM
I like it better :'(

And what's wrong with the OoS re-order?

New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Plug In Baby
Futurism
Micro Cuts
Citizen Erased
Screenager
Nature_1
Darkshines
Megalomania


Well it's good, I just prefer mine more.

I'd switch MC with CE. That way the heavy riff at the end of MC flows with CE's intro. Which is awesome. Put Futurism between PiB and MC. I don't like to include Dead Star because it is a different release. It's Dead Star/In Your World. Outside (yet oddly part of) of the Origin era, but to each his own. If you are including Dead Star then I guess I would put it up top near the beginning. In a perfect world I would like Screenager to be replaced with the piano version, but that isn't possible. Nature_1 is good b-side to throw in for fun.

fabripav
12-08-2012, 05:34 PM
It's waaaay too much. You need some soft songs there, man. Also Dead Star needs to be after HM.

Straight and heavy :cool:

Uhm HM > Dead Star > PiB works great, you're right.

Well it's good, I just prefer mine more.

I'd switch MC with CE. That way the heavy riff at the end of MC flows with CE's intro. Which is awesome. Put Futurism between PiB and MC. I don't like to include Dead Star because it is a different release. It's Dead Star/In Your World. Outside (yet oddly part of) of the Origin era, but to each his own. If you are including Dead Star then I guess I would put it up top near the beginning. In a perfect world I would like Screenager to be replaced with the piano version, but that isn't possible. Nature_1 is good b-side to throw in for fun.

I do not agree on swapping MC and CE :noey:

Trying a rushed edit:
New Born
Bliss
SD
HM
Dead Star
PiB
CE
MC
Futurism
Screenager
Darkshines
Megalomania

Dead Star can stay :phu:

Seaking
12-08-2012, 05:37 PM
I do not agree on swapping MC and CE :noey:

Trying a rushed edit:
New Born
Bliss
SD
HM
Dead Star
PiB
CE
MC
Futurism
Screenager
Darkshines
Megalomania

Dead Star can stay :phu:

Ya well :noey: your face!

CE piano outro is a good segue for Screenager. I am standing by my Dead Star stance. Utter Madness (:D)!

Sir Arthur Erased
14-08-2012, 12:10 PM
My 'Lets turn BH&R and Resistance into a triple album:D'

We Don't Do Electronic Music, We Just Put On A Synth and It Goes Blololololololololololo:
Take a Bow
Resistance
Supermassive Black Hole
Easily
Map of the Problematique
Uprising
Starlight
Glorious

Yay Guitars: Look guys, we can still make wock music, promise :supersad:
Unnatural Selection
MK Ultra
Exo politics
Crying Shame
Assassin
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Knights of Cydonia

All of the cheese: including cranberry in Wensleydale, red Leicester, and brie
Undisclosed Desires
United Stated of Eurasia
Guiding Light
Soldiers Poem
Invincible
Soaked
I Belong To You
Neutron Star Collision

...and release Exogenesis separately.

fabripav
14-08-2012, 12:11 PM
USoE cheesy? Not that much.

Sir Arthur Erased
14-08-2012, 12:20 PM
USoE cheesy? Not that much.

It's not very cheesy yes, but I consider it mild cheddar so it still fits in well there in the early songs of the album.

Jobby
14-08-2012, 12:21 PM
I wouldn't say Solder's Poem is cheesy either, to be honest.

Henz
14-08-2012, 11:04 PM
It's tempting to make Black Holes and Resistance into a double album, seperating the electronic and orchestral sounding songs. They're basically the same album and I imagine it'd work pretty well.

USoE cheesy? Not that much.

Massively cheesy.

Eura-SIA!!!!!

yoman297
02-09-2012, 12:38 AM
I think once T2L comes out I'm going to take all the good songs out of the last three and order them.

Jobby
22-12-2012, 01:56 PM
Was on a fairly long journey listening to Black Holes and ended up playing it in this order and quite liked it:

1 - Knights Of Cydonia
2 - Supermassive Black Hole
3 - Easily
4 - Starlight
5 - Map Of The Problematique
6 - Assassin (Grand Omega Bosses Clean Edit)
7 - Exo-Politics
8 - Hoodoo
9 - City Of Delusion
10 - Glorious
11 - Take A Bow

I suppose the main thing was swapping KOC and TAB round. I guess I just thought TAB worked better as a closer and KOC could work in either place but I quite liked the galloping horses etc. opening the album. Oh, and I know a lot of people don't like Exo-Politics but I do so I kept it in :phu:

fabripav
22-12-2012, 02:14 PM
Take a Bow
Supermassive
Map of the Problematique
Easily
Assassin (Debase)
Burning Bandits
Glorious
Hoodoo
City of Delusion
Knights of Cydonia

better :phu:

darksky
22-12-2012, 05:12 PM
Take a Bow
Supermassive
Map of the Problematique
Easily
Assassin (Debase)
Burning Bandits
Glorious
Hoodoo
City of Delusion
Knights of Cydonia

better :phu:

but that's lacking Zetas

also I like the idea of the horses opening

Jobby
22-12-2012, 05:23 PM
also I like the idea of the horses opening

And the drums/climax of TAB finishing :yesey:

fabripav
22-12-2012, 06:17 PM
but that's lacking Zetas

also I like the idea of the horses opening

But Burning Bandits is so much better than its album version :(

And the drums/climax of TAB finishing :yesey:

Yeah KoC and TaB could easily be swapped. But I don't want to touch the epic western trio at the end.

darksky
23-12-2012, 11:55 AM
But Burning Bandits is so much better than its album version :(

I think the gap isn't as obvious as the DMG > Assassin one. Burning Bandits isn't that good.

fabripav
24-06-2013, 04:34 PM
Bump.

Exogenesis: Overture
Resistance
Unnatural Selection
Eurasia
I Belong To You
Exogenesis: Cross-Pollination
Undisclosed Desires
We Are The Universe
Uprising
MK Ultra
Exogenesis: Redemption

The2ndwub
24-06-2013, 08:26 PM
Origin Reorder ( Even though i like feeling good, it doesnt fit. Should have been a B-Side )

New Born
Bliss
SD
HM
Dead Star
Futurism
PiB
DarkShines
MC
CE
Screenager
Megalomania


Go ahead and tell me how shit it is.

Jobby
24-06-2013, 10:01 PM
(What's He Building In There?)
New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Plug In Baby
Dead Star
Citizen Erased
Micro Cuts
Dark Shines
Futurism
Megalomania

thedemonocracy
24-06-2013, 10:13 PM
Everybody forget Dead Star was recorded AFTER Origin Of Symmetry. :LOL:
Shrinking Universe on the other hand belongs to that time.

also, this subject was created long ago with all the albums, not only Origin, use search next time.

http://board.muse.mu/showthread.php?t=56536&highlight=reorder

Jobby
24-06-2013, 10:21 PM
Everybody forget Dead Star was recorded AFTER Origin Of Symmetry. :LOL:
Shrinking Universe on the other hand belongs to that time.

I didn't forget, it just fits like a charm on Origin. If that re-track I posted was the actual album, it'd easily be my favourite album of all time (not trying to say it's the perfect re-track, just saying that it's perfect for me personally).

also, this subject was created long ago with all the albums, not only Origin, use search next time.

http://board.muse.mu/showthread.php?t=56536&highlight=reorder

Did you just go full retard?

fabripav
24-06-2013, 10:22 PM
also, this subject was created long ago with all the albums, not only Origin, use search next time.

http://board.muse.mu/showthread.php?t=56536&highlight=reorder

...? :LOL: :facepalm:

fabripav
24-06-2013, 10:23 PM
Did you just go full retard?

He really did.

mskatie
24-06-2013, 10:28 PM
It's weird to me that there are nine pages of reordering track listings.

iwillbechasingastarlight
24-06-2013, 11:06 PM
Turning TR and T2L into one album
Supremacy
Uprising
Animals
Unnatural Selection
MK Ultra
Panic Station
I Belong To You
Madness
United States of Eurasia
Prelude
Survival
Exogenesis: Symphony Part 1 (Overture)
Exogenesis: Symphony Part 2 (Cross-Pollination)
Exogenesis: Symphony Part 3 (Unsustainable) (without the newsreporter)

The2ndwub
09-07-2013, 10:25 PM
Turning TR and T2L into one album
Supremacy
Uprising
Animals
Unnatural Selection
MK Ultra
Panic Station
I Belong To You
Madness
United States of Eurasia
Prelude
Survival
Exogenesis: Symphony Part 1 (Overture)
Exogenesis: Symphony Part 2 (Cross-Pollination)
Exogenesis: Symphony Part 3 (Unsustainable) (without the newsreporter)


unsustainable to close the album ? that would be a pretty unsatisfying ending

Also

BHAR

Knights of cydonia
Supermassive blackhole
map of the problamatique
starlight
city of delusion
Invincible
exo politics
Assassin GOB
hoodoo
Take a Bow ( works better as a closer, but still hate it )

Soldier poem does not belong on this album

The2ndwub
10-07-2013, 02:49 AM
Intro
apocalypse please
Sing for absolution
Ruled by secrecy
Butterflies and hurricanes
The small print
time is running out
Stockholm Syndrome
Thoughts of a dying athiest
Hysteria
endlessly
Blackout
Falling away with you
extended version of interlude


A longer version of interlude would make a great closer IMO

Just realised i missed blackout and endlessly

fabripav
10-07-2013, 08:30 AM
A longer version of interlude would make a great closer IMO

Do you know what's an interlude?

Kojane
10-07-2013, 08:34 AM
Do you know what's an interlude?

haha silly the2ndwub

The2ndwub
10-07-2013, 02:03 PM
Do you know what's an interlude?

yeah, but i meant if they extended it and changed the name, then it would work.

The2ndwub
10-07-2013, 02:34 PM
Do you know what's an interlude?

And you say I have bad English.

Flor Amarillo
12-07-2013, 02:48 PM
Just an Abso re-order and re-track

Intro
Apocalypse Please
Eternally Missed
The Small Print
Sing For Absolution
Time Is Running Out
Stockholm Syndrome
Interlude
Hysteria
Blackout
Butterflies & Hurricanes
Endlessly
Thoughts Of A Dying Atheist
Fury
Ruled By Secrecy

TheRD101Person
12-07-2013, 05:37 PM
For OoS, take out Screenager, add in Futurism.

DifferentPerson
12-07-2013, 05:41 PM
For OoS, take out Feeling Good, add in Futurism.

.

Kueller917
12-07-2013, 05:44 PM
If you were to add Futurism I'd have the order something like

Citizen
Screenager
Micro Cuts
Futurism
Darkshines
Megalomania

Strangeseas
12-07-2013, 05:45 PM
If you were to add Futurism I'd have the order something like

Citizen
Screenager
Micro Cuts
Futurism
Darkshines
Megalomania

But CE into Micro Cuts :(

DifferentPerson
12-07-2013, 05:47 PM
This would basically be my perfect OOS:

New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Plug In Baby
Citizen Erased
Micro Cuts
Shrinking Universe
Futurism
Screenager
Megalomania

fabripav
12-07-2013, 05:48 PM
New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Plug In Baby
Citizen Erased
Micro Cuts
Futurism
Darkshines
Screenager
Megalomania

Kueller917
12-07-2013, 05:49 PM
But CE into Micro Cuts :(

It goes into Screenager just as well as it goes into Micro Cuts.

fabripav
12-07-2013, 05:52 PM
Take a Bow
Map
Supermassive
Easily
Invincible
Debase
Burning Bandits
Hoodoo
CoD
Knights

DifferentPerson
12-07-2013, 05:54 PM
Burning Bridges


:wtf:

Kueller917
12-07-2013, 05:56 PM
New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Plug In Baby
Dead Star
Citizen Erased
Screenager
Micro Cuts
Darkshines
Megalomania

I actually wouldn't have Futurism.

fabripav
12-07-2013, 05:57 PM
:wtf:
:shifty:

Strangeseas
12-07-2013, 05:57 PM
:wtf:

Oh the irony that you were once known as Exo-Politik

fabripav
12-07-2013, 05:57 PM
New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Plug In Baby
Dead Star
Citizen Erased
Screenager
Micro Cuts
Darkshines
Megalomania

I actually wouldn't have Futurism.

Dead Star is better yeah but it comes from another recording session :phu:

DifferentPerson
12-07-2013, 05:58 PM
Oh the irony that you were one known as Exo-Politik

Shhh... I know what it used to be called. But Fabri got it wrong :phu:

Kueller917
12-07-2013, 06:00 PM
Oh the irony that you were once known as Exo-Politik

The irony is that Burning Bridges isn't a Muse song.

Dead Star is better yeah but it comes from another recording session :phu:

I didn't know that was a rule. Even if I removed Dead Star I still don't feel Futurism fitting well with the rest of the album.

Strangeseas
12-07-2013, 06:02 PM
The irony is that Burning Bridges isn't a Muse song.


I swear I read it as Bandits :facepalm:

fabripav
12-07-2013, 06:02 PM
I didn't know that was a rule. Even if I removed Dead Star I still don't feel Futurism fitting well with the rest of the album.

It wasn't, until now.

And y u no think Futurism fits? I think it does really well.

Kueller917
12-07-2013, 06:03 PM
It wasn't, until now.

And y u no think Futurism fits? I think it does really well.

Something about the production feels off from the rest of the album's sound. I think that's it really if it were fixed it would fit well. If I would add it it would be between Space Dementia and Hyper Music.

Nipso
15-07-2013, 03:18 PM
I have reordered my OoS to include Dead Star between PiB and CE. Because iTunes :cool:

Should probably fit Futurism in there as well somewhere.

fabripav
15-07-2013, 03:19 PM
Yeah, since iTunes is the only player that allows that :cool:

Kojane
15-07-2013, 03:19 PM
iTunes is shite

Nipso
15-07-2013, 03:21 PM
Yeah, since iTunes is the only player that allows that :cool:




Whoosh.

Kojane
15-07-2013, 03:25 PM
I'm whooshed too, so what was the point? :LOL:

DifferentPerson
15-07-2013, 03:34 PM
What's wrong with iTunes, anyway? :phu:

Kueller917
15-07-2013, 03:37 PM
What's wrong with iTunes, anyway? :phu:

Bloated as hell.
Horrible tag reading logic.
Low levels of customizing.
Low range of playable file types.

Nipso
15-07-2013, 04:03 PM
Bloated as hell.
Horrible tag reading logic.
Low levels of customizing.
Low range of playable file types.

I'd say you may as well be speaking Chinese, but I actually speak a little bit of Chinese.

Kueller917
15-07-2013, 04:05 PM
I'm sure learning audio file types is a lot easier than learning Chinese though.

Kojane
15-07-2013, 04:05 PM
i'd say you may as well be speaking chinese, but i actually speak a little bit of chinese.

哦,真的吗?

google translate 4 da win

Nipso
15-07-2013, 04:16 PM
哦,真的吗?

google translate 4 da win

真的,我在中国四个月学习中文。

(Still terrible at word order)

Alec.
15-07-2013, 08:06 PM
Something about the production feels off from the rest of the album's sound. I think that's it really if it were fixed it would fit well. If I would add it it would be between Space Dementia and Hyper Music.

Yeah, the guitar and bass sound a bit murky in comparison to the other two songs.

fabripav
16-07-2013, 08:09 AM
Showbiz
Uno
Cave
Falling Down
Sunburn
Muscle Museum (with the extended intro)
Do We Need This?
Host
Unintended
Spiral Static
Hate This & I'll Love You
Con-Science (hidden track)

fabripav
16-07-2013, 12:23 PM
Showbiz
Uno
Cave
Falling Down
Sunburn
Muscle Museum (with the extended intro)
Do We Need This?
Host
Unintended
Spiral Static
Hate This & I'll Love You
Con-Science (hidden track)

New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Plug In Baby
Citizen Erased
Micro Cuts
Screenager
Futurism
Darkshines
Megalomania

Intro
Apocalypse Please
Sing for Absolution
Stockholm Syndrome
Falling Away With You
Interlude
Hysteria
Blackout
Butterflies & Hurricanes (single version)
Fury
The Small Print
Endlessly
Ruled by Secrecy

Take a Bow
Supermassive Black Hole
Map of the Problematique
Easily
Debase Mason's Grog
Glorious
Soldier's Poem
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Knights of Cydonia

Strangeseas
16-07-2013, 12:44 PM
Intro
Apocalypse Please
Sing for Absolution
Stockholm Syndrome
Falling Away With You
Interlude
Hysteria
Blackout
Butterflies & Hurricanes (single version)
Fury
The Small Print
Endlessly
Ruled by Secrecy


TIRO and TOADA are better than FAWY and Endlessly. I replace these songs, when I listen to your playlist. Okay? :)

I never got the the hate for TIRO, it's one of the best Muse singles. Catchy, one hell of a pre-chorus. I like THE everything.

fabripav
16-07-2013, 12:58 PM
TIRO and TOADA are better than FAWY and Endlessly. I replace that song songs, when I listen to your playlist. Okay? :)

I never got the the hate for TIRO, it's one of the best Muse singles. Catchy, one hell of a pre-chorus. I like THE everything.

TIRO and TOADA are decent but FAWY and Endlessly are better. Endlessly is fantastic and works perfectly before Ruled by Secrecy. And FAWY > Interlude > Hysteria is probably the best flow ever in a Muse album.

Jobby
16-07-2013, 01:51 PM
Knights Of Cydonia
Map Of The Problematique
Supermassive Black Hole
Easily
Starlight
Exo-Politics
Debase Masons Grog
Hoodoo
City Of Delusion
Glorious
Take A Bow

Or, for people who prefer TAB opening and KOC closing:

Take A Bow
Map Of The Problematique
Supermassive Black Hole
Easily
Starlight
Exo-Politics
Glorious
Debase Masons Grog
City Of Delusion
Hoodoo
Knights Of Cydonia

AJUltra
18-07-2013, 10:39 PM
Black Holes & Revelations:

Knights Of Cydonia
Supermassive Black Hole
Map Of The Problematique
Invincible
Starlight
Soldiers Poem
Hoodoo
City Of Delusion
Exo-Politics
Assassin
Take A Bow

The 2nd Law:

The 2nd Law: Unsustainable
Supremacy
Animals
Follow Me
Panic Station
Madness
The 2nd Law: Isolated System
Big Freeze
Explorers
Save Me
Liquid State
Prelude
Survival

fabripav
19-07-2013, 10:33 AM
Madness
The 2nd Law: Isolated System
Big Freeze

wut

Flor Amarillo
22-07-2013, 05:07 PM
New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Dead Star
Plug In Baby
Citizen Erased
Micro Cuts
Shine
Feeling Good
Nature_1
Megalomania

fabripav
22-07-2013, 05:09 PM
Removes Hyper Music

Keeps Feeling Good

Flor Amarillo
24-07-2013, 11:32 PM
Removes Hyper Music

Keeps Feeling Good

I don't like Hyper Music as these other songs...

Dee3Dee
24-07-2013, 11:54 PM
I'm really getting the impression that being extremely wrong about everything is an Italian thing.

Flor Amarillo
25-07-2013, 12:03 AM
I'm really getting the impression that being extremely wrong about everything is an Italian thing.

:eek: sorry if i am Italian :p Italian fans like Hyper Music, they're normal people. Maybe I'm an exception.

I have to make an album tracklist, so I can't list all my favourite songs. I wouldn't like Hyper Music or another heavy song among Shine/Megalomania etc, and i wanted to add Dead Star

The2ndwub
14-09-2013, 10:26 PM
SHOWBIZ

Showbiz
Uno
cave
falling down
Unintended
sunburn
Muscle Museum#2
Escape
Do We Need This
Host
Spiral Static
Hate This And Ill Love You
(Conscience)

OOS

New Born
Bliss
In Your World
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Dead Star
Futurism
Plug in baby
Darkshines
Micro Cuts
Citizen Erased
Screenager
Megalomania

ABSOLUTION

Apocalypse please
Sing For Absolution
Ruled By Secrecy (im gonna get shit for that)
Butterflies and hurricanes
Fury
The Small Print
Time Is Running out
Stockholm syndrome
Hysteria
Endlessly
Eternally missed
Falling away with you + Interlude

BH&R

Knights of cydonia
Map Of The Problamatique
Supermassive Blackhole
Easily
Starlight
Exo Politics
Debase Mason Grog
Hoodoo
City of delusion
invincible
Glorious
Take A Bow

LA RESISTANCE

Uprising
Resistance
Unnatural Selection
MK Ultra
Guiding light
Undisclosed Desires
I Belong to you
United States of eurasia
Exo 1
Exo 2
Exo 3

THE 2ND LAW

Unsustainable
Supremacy
animals
follow me
panic station
madness
big freeze
liquid state
save me
explorers
prelude + Survival
Isolated System

Jazzthief
26-10-2013, 09:29 AM
Showbiz

Forced In
Muscle Museum (Full Length Version)
Uno
Host
Cave
Showbiz
Falling Down
Unintended
Spiral Static
Agitated
Sunburn
Hate This And I'll Love You
Con-Science (hidden track)

Forced In fades directly into the Full Length intro of Muscle Museum, and Cave fades into Showbiz like it does now.

fabripav
26-10-2013, 10:30 AM
Why include the hullabaloo stuff?

Tjet
26-10-2013, 10:36 AM
Why include the hullabaloo stuff?huh? All of the non-album stuff he included was showbiz b-sides recorded in 1999, and only one was on hullabaloo.

fabripav
26-10-2013, 10:43 AM
Oh, whoops. I just read forced in and went retard

fabripav
26-10-2013, 10:44 AM
Needs Do We Need This? anyway :phu:

Jazzthief
26-10-2013, 11:26 AM
Needs Do We Need This? anyway :phu:

Nah, it's perfect the way it is :phu:

The2ndwub
11-11-2013, 02:47 AM
Showbiz

1.Showbiz
2.Uno
3.Cave
4.Falling Down
5.Unintended
6.Muscle Museum(full length)
7.Sunburn
8.Do We Need This
9.Escape
10.Host
11.Spiral Static
12.Hate This And Ill Love You
(conscience)

actually love that order

cocopuffs
11-11-2013, 02:50 AM
I don't love that sober isn't there

The2ndwub
11-11-2013, 02:52 AM
I don't love that sober isn't there

Sober isnt that great, plenty of the songs on showbiz could have been replaced and the album would have been fine or better.

bumpypotato
11-11-2013, 05:07 AM
Sober isnt that great, plenty of the songs on showbiz could have been replaced and the album would have been fine or better.

Sober >>>> Unintended.

The2ndwub
11-11-2013, 01:26 PM
Sober >>>> Unintended.

:twitchy:

fabripav
11-11-2013, 07:43 PM
Sober >>>> Unintended.

As much as I hate agreeing with T2wub, Sober is shit and anyway worse than Unintended.

fabripav
21-12-2013, 05:37 PM
Sunburn
Muscle Museum
Host
Falling Down
Cave
Showbiz
Uno
Do We Need This?
Escape
Hate This & I'll Love You
Con-Science

New Born
Bliss
Space Dementia
Futurism
Hyper Music
Plug In Baby
Dead Star
Citizen Erased
Screenager
Micro Cuts
Darkshines
Megalomania

Intro
Apocalypse Please
Time Is Running Out
The Small Print
Stockholm Syndrome
Endlessly
Fury
Falling Away With You
Interlude
Hysteria
Blackout
Butterflies and Hurricanes
Ruled By Secrecy

Take a Bow
Map of the Problematique
Supermassive Black Hole
Easily
Invincible
Glorious
Debase Mason's Grog/Grand Omega Bosses
Soldier's Poem
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Knights of Cydonia

AJUltra
21-12-2013, 07:21 PM
I've always found making a concert setlist out of an album fun.

For example:

New Born
Futurism
Micro Cuts
Citizen Erased
Megalomania
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Dark Shines
Screenager
Bliss
Plug In Baby

DeadStaaar
22-12-2013, 01:09 AM
I've always found making a concert setlist out of an album fun.

For example:

New Born
Futurism
Micro Cuts
Citizen Erased
Megalomania
Space Dementia
Hyper Music
Dark Shines
Screenager
Bliss
Plug In Baby
Not having Megalomania closing :noey:

No Dead Star and CE -> SD either.

tdrunner95
22-12-2013, 02:02 AM
Take a Bow
Map of the Problematique
Supermassive Black Hole
Easily
Invincible
Glorious
Debase Mason's Grog/Grand Omega Bosses
Soldier's Poem
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Knights of Cydonia

Oh god yes

AJUltra
22-12-2013, 12:16 PM
Not having Megalomania closing :noey:

No Dead Star and CE -> SD either.

As much as I love Megalomania I wouldn't have it as a closer for a concert over songs like Plug In Baby and Bliss. After Citizen Erased felt like the best place to put it but between or after Dark Shines and Screenager might work too.

I didn't include Dead Star because it was released in 2002 and wasn't written in the "Origin" sessions.

Clunge
22-12-2013, 12:19 PM
Take A Bow
Map Of The Problematique
Assassin (GOB Edit)
City Of Delusion
Hoodoo
Knights Of Cydonia

Would be pretty much the best Muse release ever.

Jazzthief
22-12-2013, 12:26 PM
Take A Bow
Map Of The Problematique
Assassin (GOB Edit)
City Of Delusion
Hoodoo
Knights Of Cydonia

Would be pretty much the best Muse release ever.

No Glorious :noey:

Kueller917
22-12-2013, 06:53 PM
No Glorious :noey:

Clunge and Glorious don't mix.

Nipso
22-12-2013, 08:37 PM
Clunge and Glorious don't mix.

You never met my ex.

Clunge
22-12-2013, 09:16 PM
Glorious is gash.

Nipso
22-12-2013, 09:56 PM
Gash is glorious.
:yesey:

Ikra
22-12-2013, 10:14 PM
You never met my ex.

Gash is glorious

:yesey:[/QUOTE]

Please stop. :facepalm:

Jazzthief
22-12-2013, 10:16 PM
Glorious is gash.

There isn't a smiley negative enough to describe how wrong you are.

Clunge
22-12-2013, 10:40 PM
So be it.

Nipso
22-12-2013, 10:45 PM
Please stop. :facepalm:

Nevar.

dead0citizen
22-12-2013, 10:53 PM
Showbiz:

Uno
Muscle Museum
Do We Need This?
Sunburn
Cave
Showbiz
Pink Ego Box
Escape
Falling Down
Unintended
Hate This & I'll Love You

Origin of Symmetry:

New Born
Bliss
Dead Star
Hyper Music
Plug in Baby
Futurism
In Your World
Citizen Erased
Micro Cuts
Screenager
Megalomania
Space Dementia

Absolution:

Intro+Apocalypse Please
Sing for Absolution
Time is Running Out
Fury
Stockholm Syndrome
Falling Away With You
Interlude
Hysteria
Butterflies and Hurricanes
Blackout
Endlessly
The Small Print
Ruled by Secrecy
Eternally Missed

Black Holes and Revelations:

Take a Bow
Map of the Problematique
Supermassive Black Hole
Starlight
Exo-Politics
Assassin
Easily
Invincible
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Knights of Cydonia

The Resistance:

Uprising
Resistance
Unnatural Selection
MK Ultra
I Belong to You
Undisclosed Desires
United States of Eurasia
Exogenesis: Overture
Exogenesis: Cross-Pollination
Exogenesis: Redemption

The 2nd Law:

Unsustainable
Supremacy
Panic Station
Big Freeze
Madness
Follow Me
Survival
Liquid State
Animals
Save Me
Explorers
Isolated System

X-Offender
22-05-2014, 12:18 PM
How I would change The Resistance:

01. Uprising
02. Resistance
03. Undisclosed Desires
04. United States of Eurasia
05. Collateral Damage - possibly longer
06. Unnatural Selection
07. MK Ultra
08. I Belong to You - without the French part in the middle
09. Overture
10. Cross Pollination - shorter intro, longer upbeat section
11. Redemption

heyjackk
23-05-2014, 02:54 AM
How I'd restructure BH&R

Take a Bow
Starlight
Supermassive Black Hole
Map of the Problematique
Soldiers Poem
Invincible
Easily
DMG version of Assassin
Exo-Politics
Crying Shame
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Glorious
Knights of Cydonia

Tjet
23-05-2014, 10:16 PM
How I'd restructure BH&R

Take a Bow
Starlight
Supermassive Black Hole
Map of the Problematique
Soldiers Poem
Invincible
Easily
DMG version of Assassin
Exo-Politics
Crying Shame
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Glorious
Knights of Cydonia
Because we all know quantity is quality.

heyjackk
24-05-2014, 02:43 AM
Because we all know quantity is quality.

Black Holes is my favourite album. I wouldn't remove anything.

DifferentPerson
24-05-2014, 07:56 PM
Take a Bow
Easily
Supermassive Black Hole
Map of the Problematique
Glorious
Assassin
Crying Shame
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Knights of Cydonia

Id have TaB closing but there's not really anything else that would work as an opener apart from Knights, and that needs CoD and Hoodoo before it. I guess Map with some sort of extended intro could work.

fabripav
24-05-2014, 08:00 PM
TaB > SBH > Map > Easily fits better than that.

Clunge
24-05-2014, 08:04 PM
Take A Bow (w/ live outro)
Uprising
Map Of The Problematique
Supermassive Black Hole
MK Ultra
United States Of Eurasia
Assassin (Ext.)
Unnatural Selection
City Of Delusion
Hoodoo
Knights Of Cydonia

Raiga Kagekami
25-05-2014, 07:25 AM
What I have for TR (including all TR tracks) -

Overture (segue into)
Uprising
Unnatural Selection
USoE (with Collateral Damage segueing into...)
Cross-Pollination (segue into)
Guiding Light
Resistance
MK Ultra
I Belong To You
Undisclosed Desires
Soaked (segue into)
Redemption

Probably not the best, but it sorta works for me as a playlist. I'd remove I Belong To You and Undisclosed Desires and change the lyrical theme for Soaked, but for listening purposes I kept them in there.

lew99
15-06-2014, 02:39 PM
id rearrange The 2nd Law id prefer the songs to be in the order of how they play them live I think they flow better that way. Something kind of along the lines of what the stadiums setlist was like.

Isolated System
Supremacy
Panic Station
Animals
Explorers
Big Freeze
Follow Me
Save Me
Liquid State
Madness
Unsustainable
Prelude + Survival

Zepp
16-06-2014, 07:29 AM
The Resistance:

1. Overture
2. Unnatural Selection
3. United States of Eurasia
4. Undisclosed Desires
5. MK Ultra
6. Cross-Pollination
7. Resistance
8. I Belong to You
9. Uprising
10. Redemption

scottycydonia
16-06-2014, 09:24 AM
I always thought exogenesis should be split and be start, middle and end. Would make the album so much better because after mk ultra i think IBTY and exo was too much.