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tyechan
27-03-2008, 10:50 AM
Morgan seems to just be such a big part of Muse's live sound, I feel sad for him having to not get any glory for what he does!

theanatomyofguns
27-03-2008, 10:54 AM
I think he should, but doubt it will happen.

Tracybs
27-03-2008, 11:34 AM
No.

Carrotie
27-03-2008, 11:39 AM
He gets glory from fans like us, and fans who don't know of him, well he doesn't need glory from them because they're not pwoper fans :p

I like Muse being a three piece, thankyou very much ;)

Emaaa
27-03-2008, 11:41 AM
I Like Muse as a Three Piece Band.

Its not like he isn't recognised. He does a good job at what he does. But he is backing, i couldnt see what he would do if he was an official member

Carrotie
27-03-2008, 11:43 AM
you spelt fourth wrong, tyechan, you fucktard.

Judderman
27-03-2008, 11:48 AM
ye i think that is a good idea, but i think the reason he isnt, is beacuse he doesnt want to be part of the media attention.

lyricalwax
27-03-2008, 11:58 AM
you spelt fourth wrong, tyechan, you fucktard.

err.. actually he(/she) didn't.

edit: just saw the poll. sorry, my bad.

tyechan
27-03-2008, 01:01 PM
he!

umm ye i did actually in the poll question not in the thread title ;)

Finlay
27-03-2008, 01:07 PM
Muse are known for making such a fantastic sound as a three piece. Morgan is helping in loads of other bands such a Gorillaz (bassist live and such), so I think it would be a but strange. He's their synthist so he's more of an 'editor' of their music. He doesn't write lyrics or anything, just helps put in sound effects and helps out live.

Lickle_Pickle
27-03-2008, 02:16 PM
No.

To the point, as always Twacy ;)

But I must echo her answer. I like that one of the things that really makes Muse stand out is the fact that they're a 3-piece.

(plus think of the press shots...Chris and the 3 midgets...Dave Seville with Alvin and the Chipmunks :LOL:)

_Ed_
27-03-2008, 02:18 PM
If he plays a significant role in the studio next time they record something then yes.

If he continues to only play with the band live, no.

Max
27-03-2008, 02:18 PM
If he plays a significant role in the studio next time they record something then yes.

If he continues to only play with the band live, no.

Exactly.

Pip
27-03-2008, 02:24 PM
My BF plays drums at gigs regularly for well known singers/groups, he has no expectations or aspirations to become a permanent member of those groups though and I doubt anyone would recognise him.
He's a session musician.

Isn't that what Morgan is at the end of the day?

Tracybs
27-03-2008, 02:30 PM
To the point, as always Twacy ;)

Yes. :D

Lynzi
27-03-2008, 02:31 PM
Muse are Matt, Dom & Chris

end of

Yes Tom, Morgan and Dan are additional band members but they wont be official ones I don't think. Although it would be nice but I don't think it'll happen.

vibrantXhearts
27-03-2008, 03:13 PM
Maybe he doesn't want to be an official member. *shrug*

Max
27-03-2008, 03:17 PM
Maybe he doesn't want to be an official member. *shrug*

That's probably what it is.

Sue
08-08-2009, 04:56 AM
No. If he only worked with Muse it might be different, but he is independent. Many bands hire backing singers and musicians for both studio work and live performances. It's like a company hiring an independent contractor to do specialist work as needed, rather than employing the person full-time. I gree with others who have said that Muse is a 3-piece outfit and that's part of their image and appeal.

Pistol Star
08-08-2009, 05:02 AM
If anybody should be an official fourth member, it's Tom. He's been with them from the start, and is practically considered as such by the pwoper fans anyway.

Muse_Fan21
08-08-2009, 05:20 AM
I thought he just helps out random ppl. Isn't he supposed to be touring with Lily Alan? or did he do that already.:$ + he didn't even work on The Resistance so its not like its his music

memerdommie
08-08-2009, 08:06 AM
oh, no no no.
Morgan should be the member of live.
not the official fourth member.

[i knew it Morgan, but i'm sorry. i'm still love you:happy:]

Erica-Jane
08-08-2009, 08:34 AM
I love Morgan, and appreciate what he does for them live...
But Muse have managed to make fantastic music as a trio for this long now, so I think they should stay a three-piece :D

Matthijs
08-08-2009, 08:48 AM
wow this is an epic bump...

He shouldn't be in the band as he's not a part of the creative juices flowing in the muse drink ;)

but I have a strong feeling he's coming back on tour; he was tour manager and bass player for lily allen, but in the current live videos for her there's a new bass player. might mean that he's practising with muse again to go back on tour.

Pistol Star
08-08-2009, 11:35 AM
wow this is an epic bump...

He shouldn't be in the band as he's not a part of the creative juices flowing in the muse drink ;)

but I have a strong feeling he's coming back on tour; he was tour manager and bass player for lily allen, but in the current live videos for her there's a new bass player. might mean that he's practising with muse again to go back on tour.

He was her tour manager? I knew he was a multi-instrumentalist, but I didn't know he did things like that.

lightisbright
08-08-2009, 11:38 AM
I love Morgan, and appreciate what he does for them live...
But Muse have managed to make fantastic music as a trio for this long now, so I think they should stay a three-piece :D

+1 :yesey:

Matthijs
08-08-2009, 01:16 PM
He was her tour manager? I knew he was a multi-instrumentalist, but I didn't know he did things like that.

sorry slight mistake there; tour director.
yet I think it's the smae

Pop Tarts
08-08-2009, 01:25 PM
Do you think he should be in newer music videos?

Anxyous
08-08-2009, 01:28 PM
Do you think he should be in newer music videos?

No.

Matthijs
08-08-2009, 02:46 PM
no; he was lucky to get a few nice shots on the HAARP DVD but that's about where it should go. He's not an official member; he won't be either.
He's an 'official live member' if you'd ask me; however I'm not sure he'll be touring USA as he didn't have the working visa for it at the time.

He could get a bit more screening time on dvd's etc imho.

Genesis.
08-08-2009, 06:25 PM
No. :stunned:

f96pt
08-08-2009, 06:28 PM
No.

hunting s thompson
19-04-2010, 08:17 AM
he does good work for the live performances :D

xbroken_ideals
19-04-2010, 08:21 AM
Muse doesn't need a fourth member :D

mrshoward<3
19-04-2010, 08:33 AM
If anybody should be an official fourth member, it's Tom. He's been with them from the start, and is practically considered as such by the pwoper fans anyway.

+1 :yesey:

I like Morgan, he's performance on stage is totally amazing. But I think he isn't qualified as the fourth official member as he has no (or not much) contribution to their albums so far. Well, at least Tom has been with them from the beginning, which means he might have some degree of influence to the MUSE sound I think.

And yeah, I like MUSE as a three-piece band too, that's all it matters. Haha.

fizzers
19-04-2010, 08:38 AM
+1 :yesey:

I like Morgan, he's performance on stage is totally amazing. But I think he isn't qualified as the fourth official member as he has no (or not much) contribution to their albums so far. Well, at least Tom has been with them from the beginning, which means he might have some degree of influence to the MUSE sound I think.

And yeah, I like MUSE as a three-piece band too, that's all it matters. Haha.

I concur!

Melania13
19-04-2010, 08:40 AM
no, cuz its not like he actually MADE any of the music.... he simply helps Muse be awesome-r live!! he's an amazing musician but not necessary to Muse's creative process or anything

Shrinking Universe
19-04-2010, 10:23 AM
necro:p

MuseRLegend
19-04-2010, 10:29 AM
First of all, I love Morgan, and I have nothing against him or his undeniable talent. However, Muse were, and always should be, a three-piece. That is why they work so well both in a studio and onstage - they are so phanominal because they are so tight. They have been together for so long, and another member would confuse everything. Who would play what parts in the studio? Would Matt step aside on the piano? It just doesn't work.

devonscreen
19-04-2010, 10:31 AM
Muse doesn't need a fourth member :D

Yep!

And Morgan just help them onstage

notyounaanbread
19-04-2010, 03:49 PM
I Like Muse as a Three Piece Band.

Its not like he isn't recognised. He does a good job at what he does. But he is backing, i couldnt see what he would do if he was an official member

Yeah I agree, I also think them as a trio makes them seem more impressive, making all that great, poweful music with just three members.

OriginOfStarlight
19-04-2010, 08:09 PM
No.

- Cassie
19-04-2010, 11:48 PM
No. He's amazing, but he only help them on stage. Muse should stay a three-piece.

musse
19-04-2010, 11:52 PM
No!!!!!
It'll affect the current democracy 2 vs 1

escapist
20-04-2010, 02:06 AM
I love Morgan, but no.

beatlesmaniac98
20-04-2010, 02:08 AM
No.

care to explain?

mirtaisokay
20-04-2010, 02:30 PM
he's a great person and he's always with the band and all.
but i voted no.
just because i can't even imagine muse being a band with four members.
muse is a three piece band.
the end xD

OriginOfStarlight
20-04-2010, 02:46 PM
he's a great person and he's always with the band and all.
but i voted no.
just because i can't even imagine muse being a band with four members.
muse is a three piece band.
the end xD
Agreed. :yesey:

Lumiere
20-04-2010, 02:49 PM
Na... As sad as this might sound...
A lot of people in certain groups are left in the back and never spoken of.
That's how the industry works.

And to be quite frank, Muse is an awesome three man band. Like it better that way. :P
And to top it all off, in order to add a fourth member, we'd have to hear more about Chris first, no? (he's taking a lot of space in the back already :( )

coco1015w
20-04-2010, 03:14 PM
No!!!!!
It'll affect the current democracy 2 vs 1

Lol. + 1 sort of.

Also, I have always been kind of disgusted when live members turn into actual band members. For most of the time, and of course, in this case, I don't see Morgan in the studio much with Muse to produce the "Muse sound".

Yea, and even if Muse needed a fourth member, I think Kirk would be the one rather than Morgan.

*Morgan, I still love you :kiss: , you're amazing at what you're doing

DownAndOut
17-09-2010, 02:39 PM
I voted "no", but he should be given more acknowledgement on stage. I like what Genesis did when Steve Hackett left and they became a threesome in the studio. Chester Thompson and Daryl Stuermer were never considered as full time members of the band, but they were always introduced on stage when the band played live and weren't hidden away at the back of the stage. Well actually, Chester was hidden away behind his drum kit. ;)

Matthijs
17-09-2010, 02:41 PM
I was kinda hoping Morgan would be allowed to give a wave at the end of the gigs but well, things can't always be the way we want them to. Still a no :p

L.
17-09-2010, 02:45 PM
he is still the only i know who had a whole room doing a massive chant of his name at a muse gig! :awesome:

Queen of the Muse Board
17-09-2010, 04:56 PM
he is still the only i know who had a whole room doing a massive chant of his name at a muse gig! :awesome:

Took the poor man a week to recover from that :chuckle:

AloFury
17-09-2010, 05:28 PM
Na... As sad as this might sound...
A lot of people in certain groups are left in the back and never spoken of.
That's how the industry works.


+1 to No.. ..have to agree, and as good as he is, Muse was always a threeman band and thats how i see them.

Session players sometimes tour with multiple bands at once and are quite happy with it getting media exposure and well paid sometimes, and if they wanted the limelight there are ways of making it to the big time.. ultimately its a Dom, Matt and Chris decision.

Dom if you're after a drum technician msg me !! :LOL::LOL:

Zaphod Chizzlebrox
17-09-2010, 05:31 PM
:LOL: Old thread is old.

Anyway, Morgan should be kicked out of touring completely, then Muse might become better on stage. It's only since he's been involved that Muse have gone downhill on tours, so the cause is obvious. I vote get rid of Morgan and go back to Muse being a touring three-piece suite!

Livs
17-09-2010, 05:32 PM
As much as i love Morgan, and respect everything he does, Muse started as a three piece and they are solid like that- i know morgan makes that sound even greater live, but it just wouldnt be the muse as we know it :/

dekza
17-09-2010, 05:37 PM
No way.
A lot of professional bands have many backup musicians...Placebo have got like five, U2 have one hidden "Morgan" under the stage, Green Day have a guitarist, Kasabian have a guitarist.

The band creates the music, Morgan just does what they tell him to do.
Morgan has no say in the band. And he shouldn't because he isn't with them from the beginning and hasn't gone through all the band has.

L.
17-09-2010, 05:38 PM
Took the poor man a week to recover from that :chuckle:

so much morgan love that day!

Queen of the Muse Board
17-09-2010, 05:39 PM
No way.
A lot of professional bands have many backup musicians...Placebo have got like five, U2 have one hidden "Morgan" under the stage, Green Day have a guitarist, Kasabian have a guitarist.


I'd rather be a Morgan at Placebo, they don't hide their Morgans in a dark corner! :phu:

YallaYaBatteekh
17-09-2010, 05:58 PM
Morgan Nicholls should be an official fourth person in Muse!

no thanks.

ilsiux
17-09-2010, 06:14 PM
mm yeah.. I don't think so.. he wasn't with them from the beginning..

although he shouldn't be so hidden ! I was watching a rerun of the SNL show, and it was funny how they made close ups of Morgan ! :LOL:

Luigi.
18-09-2010, 01:15 AM
Even though Morgan is a cool guy,he shouldn't be added to Muse.

dekza
26-09-2010, 11:00 AM
I'd rather be a Morgan at Placebo, they don't hide their Morgans in a dark corner! :phu:

He's not that hidden I think. People see him but the main guys in the spotlight have to be the three. For example U2 have a guy who is hidden under the stage and no one knows him. No one knows his name or anything. That's quite strange

Tjet
26-09-2010, 12:52 PM
"Muse make such a big sound for a 3-piece band", well yeah, that's because they aren't a 3-piece band.

Most of the comments I have seen here has been about keeping it as it is because they like the thought of a 3-piece band with "such a massive sound". Ehm...yeah, I'm not even gonna comment on that.

CarrieB
26-09-2010, 10:10 PM
I think if Morgan really wanted to become a full-time member of the band it would be up to him to put that over. I can't see Muse being so arrogant as to dismiss his wishes, as they are really lovely guys, so I reckon Morgan and Muse are happy with things as they are. :)

Tofu
26-09-2010, 10:24 PM
Uh, yeah. I like Morgan, and it's not like no one knows he exists. Just that, I feel that if he's gonna be an "official" member of Muse he'd have input on the actual creative process, too. Until then I consider him a part of Muse's live show, but not really at the core. If you know what I mean.

coralucky
26-09-2010, 10:50 PM
No, not at all!
I appreciate Morgan. I really do. But he's just doing he's job. come on! Muse are Muse, and just Muse, in my opinion. And Morgan's awesome, but he's not a Muse member. He also helps other bands... and he's also helping Muse; that's it!
There's no doubt in my opinion! how could you even think of that?

Tjet
26-09-2010, 11:28 PM
No, not at all!
I appreciate Morgan. I really do. But he's just doing he's job. come on! Muse are Muse, and just Muse, in my opinion. And Morgan's awesome, but he's not a Muse member. He also helps other bands... and he's also helping Muse; that's it!
There's no doubt in my opinion! how could you even think of that?
That doesn't even make sense.

Morgan is a part of the live band Muse, fact.

Olly.
26-09-2010, 11:32 PM
if morgan wasnt there you wouldnt have exogenesis or new born intro

Tjet
26-09-2010, 11:34 PM
if morgan wasnt there you wouldnt have exogenesis or new born intro
Or any of the songs on The Resistance.

Olly.
26-09-2010, 11:35 PM
just thinking about it, yeah you're right... in that case I want morgan to leave so they never play any of the resistance songs again

Shwissky
27-09-2010, 08:19 AM
And all of the songs on BHaR.

Tjet
27-09-2010, 10:08 AM
Nah, there are a number of songs on that album that could be done without Morgan.

James.
27-09-2010, 12:42 PM
Nah, there are a number of songs on that album that could be done without Morgan.

Could be, if Bellamy wasn't so lazy, and didn't like prancing about with a keytar so much. :chuckle:

jonisdead
18-11-2015, 11:17 PM
"Muse make such a big sound for a 3-piece band", well yeah, that's because they aren't a 3-piece band.

Most of the comments I have seen here has been about keeping it as it is because they like the thought of a 3-piece band with "such a massive sound". Ehm...yeah, I'm not even gonna comment on that.

Agreed, really surprised at how against this change the voters on this poll are.

Finn.
19-11-2015, 06:42 PM
i can't find the source but i read that years ago, Muse offered Morgan to be a full-fledged member of the band, but he declined happy to help them with the tours. So this thread makes no sense.

SerpentSatellite
19-11-2015, 06:47 PM
It's not like it's even uncommon for bands to have touring musicians with them, but I have to say, I watched a video of Uprising from the first Mexican gig, and seeing Morgan's positioning on the stage made me feel a little uncomfortable.

They go to the effort to make him just visible enough that they can impress upon people that parts of the songs aren't playback, but still draw attention to him not being part of the band.

Tjet
19-11-2015, 07:32 PM
i can't find the source but i read that years ago, Muse offered Morgan to be a full-fledged member of the band, but he declined happy to help them with the tours. So this thread makes no sense.So the thread makes no sense because of an obscure quote that you can't find?

Finn.
19-11-2015, 07:45 PM
So the thread makes no sense because of an obscure quote that you can't find?

Absolutely.

SerpentSatellite
19-11-2015, 07:47 PM
I've certainly seen Matt call Tom the "fourth member" unofficially, so you would at least hope they'd offered Morgan a spot at some point.

Tjet
19-11-2015, 08:04 PM
Absolutely.
Not to mention that it doesn't affect the purpose of this thread anyway.

I think we all believe Matt should play his guitar for songs like Uprising and Dead Inside. But he decided not to so I guess we make no sense.

Finn.
19-11-2015, 08:57 PM
Not to mention that it doesn't affect the purpose of this thread anyway.

I think we all believe Matt should play his guitar for songs like Uprising and Dead Inside.

And the keytar for Undisclosed Desires, don't forget the keytar, for God's sake.

jonisdead
20-11-2015, 09:01 AM
Not to mention that it doesn't affect the purpose of this thread anyway.

I think we all believe Matt should play his guitar for songs like Uprising and Dead Inside. But he decided not to so I guess we make no sense.

And the keytar for Undisclosed Desires, don't forget the keytar, for God's sake.

Agreed with both of you. The keytar was probably the single most cool thing they did musically during that tour, altoigh I was infatuated with Helsinki jam

Clunge
20-11-2015, 10:51 AM
Muse create music as a three-piece. I'm fairly sure Morgan doesn't contribute in the studio.

So yeah, why would they need to make him an 'official fourth member'? Like someone above said, loads of bands have touring musicians.

The point I do agree with though is hiding Morgan away on stage, that's a bit unfair. Biffy let Mike Vennart run wild when he toured with them for years.

ryanp16
20-11-2015, 02:58 PM
What Clunge said. It's basically the same scenario with NIN. Fuck imagine a NIN gig where Trent hid everyone from view. That'd suck. Especially on the WT tour since Aaron North was the most entertaining person on stage.

Kueller917
22-11-2015, 03:19 AM
NIN is a bit different since Trent actually puts together a proper touring band, where Muse is already Muse and at least until T2L Morgan just played the extra stuff.

Last tour Morgan got his fancy little keyboard with MIDI controlled lighting but now he just gets the hole.

jonisdead
22-11-2015, 03:35 AM
I'd actually welcome Morgan contributing creative ideas in the studio as a full member. The only downside to that IMO would be it ruins the whole "democracy" idea but hey, big deal :p