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Kazuya vs Ummagumma
28-09-2006, 05:30 PM
Discuss.

I say Dave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mes_BvrEDII

SoldierOfCydonia
28-09-2006, 05:45 PM
Discuss.

I say Dave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mes_BvrEDII

Oh, that's a tough one. It really is. David Gilmour was recently voted the greatest Fender player ever in a certain guitar magazine. I think a lot of people were shocked as they thought it would be Jimi Hendrix.

For me it would be a toss up between David Gilmour and Jimmy Page.

Kazuya vs Ummagumma
28-09-2006, 06:20 PM
Jimi>Jimmy for me.

DirtForSale
28-09-2006, 06:24 PM
Hendrix. Above all others.

Caff
28-09-2006, 06:25 PM
I bet if this thread was in Main Muse I know what would happen..

christoph
28-09-2006, 06:26 PM
Allan Holdsworth maybe? he's not human, surely.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2503349606496713246&q=allan+holdsworth

short example, cover of Proto Cosmos by Tony Williams Lifetime.

SoldierOfCydonia
28-09-2006, 06:26 PM
Jimi>Jimmy for me.


respect to Mr Jimi.
http://www.celebritybirthdayblog.com/images/jimhendrix.jpeg

But Pagey will always be an Uber Hero to me.
http://www.emando.com/images/players/Jimmy_Page_2.jpg

barefoot_girl
28-09-2006, 06:32 PM
Davey all the way.
Funny I am actually watching Pulse right now.. and that clip that was posted is of course the most brilliant song ever made.. and is from Pulse.
I am watching One of These Days right now though. Also a fabulous example of his geniusness..ness.

SoldierOfCydonia
28-09-2006, 06:37 PM
Davey all the way.
Funny I am actually watching Pulse right now.. and that clip that was posted is of course the most brilliant song ever made.. and is from Pulse.
I am watching One of These Days right now though. Also a fabulous example of his geniusness..ness.

Pulse is amazing. He might not be the most flash guitarist in the world...like he doesn't play twin neck guitars like my main boy Pagey....but every note he plays....every bloomin note is just perfect.

I worship the solo from Time. You'd have to go on a lifelong guitar pilgrimage to master the bends in that solo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntm1YfehK7U

Kazuya vs Ummagumma
28-09-2006, 06:39 PM
Davey all the way.
Funny I am actually watching Pulse right now.. and that clip that was posted is of course the most brilliant song ever made.. and is from Pulse.
I am watching One of These Days right now though. Also a fabulous example of his geniusness..ness.
Indeed. Did you know he played the bass along with Roger in the original studio version?

I'm watching that Time video now, it's a classic.

Sashimi
28-09-2006, 07:39 PM
Adam Jones
Tom Morello
Kim Thayil
Jimmy Page
Jerry Cantrell
Jimmi Hendrix
:)

Clunge
28-09-2006, 08:06 PM
Faves:

Jimmy Page
Tommi Iommi (Sp?)
Hendrix
Ritchie Blackmore
Steve Howe
Robert Fripp
Dave Gilmour
Matt Bellamy
Omar Rodriguez
Sel Balamir
Jonny Greenwood

But if I really had to pick one, it'd be Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple. His bluesy guitar style is just incredible (song: Lazy) but can still let loose (song: Highway Star).

Go Ritchie!

pubicmage
28-09-2006, 10:36 PM
Kurt Cobain. Just because he could make really horrible noises that nobody else could.

Gilmour is overrated. There are lots of better guitarists than him.

Kazuya vs Ummagumma
28-09-2006, 10:47 PM
Myabe technique wise but he's by far the best sounding.

Ink
28-09-2006, 10:57 PM
Tony Iommi
Patrick Rondat
Ian D'sa
Kevin 'Noodles' Wasserman
Mick Jones
Jimi Hendrix
Josh Homme
Paul Gilbert
David Gilmour
Greg Hetson

YellowSphere
28-09-2006, 10:59 PM
Kurt Cobain. Just because he could make really horrible noises that nobody else could....:stunned:

Hullmetrylution
28-09-2006, 11:01 PM
Alexi Laiho. He can write catchy, rockin' riffs and solo/shred/sweep so well. The solos are so catchy too.

Humphrey Goldenbollocks
28-09-2006, 11:02 PM
Hendrix was probably the first guitarist to really show how exciting an instrument guitar really is.
David Gilmour is the only guitarist that plays epic soloes that sound good, anyone else playing that sort of solo I can't listen to.
Tom Morrello made guitar exciting
Matt Bellamy for the same reasons
Jonny Greenwood, a live version of Go To Sleep, the solo, just pushes guitar beyond anything I've ever heard any other guitarist do even if it is just him hitting random notes and Max/MSP applying weird effects, who else is out there doing that? there may be better guitarists technically, but no one plays like him, or can make sounds like him.
Agata, 'cos he confuses the hell out of me
Kevin Shields for the different approach he took to guitar, as part of the background, rather than trying to show off
Both guitarists in Sonic Youth, they are the masters of creating a wall of sound with atonal slide guitar

As you can probably guess, I'm not a fan of technical guitar playing, I feel there's no emotion in that, just a technical exercise, bending a note with a bit of reverb is a cheap, tacky way of trying to put emotion into music, only Dave Gilmour can manage to pull it off.

christoph
28-09-2006, 11:09 PM
the only solos of morello that i like are settle for nothing and take the power back. both songs are in a row, so it's really great.

does tone come down to what a lot of people like?

Humphrey Goldenbollocks
28-09-2006, 11:20 PM
does tone come down to what a lot of people like?

Guitar is sound afterall, if it sounds good, then it is good, bollocks to the playing part.

That's the first thing the majority of guitarists forget. :(

pubicmage
28-09-2006, 11:42 PM
Myabe technique wise but he's by far the best sounding.
I disagree. I think there are lots of guitar players with "better" tones, for example:

Syd Barrett (Pink Floyd)
Lou Reed (Velvet Underground)
Keith Levene (Public Image Ltd.)
George Harrison
Robert Fripp (King Crimson)
Mick Jones (The Clash)

None of them are very good technically except for Fripp, but they all still sound great (depending on what your definition of great is).

It's all a matter of opinion. It's not possible for everybody to choose the same person in this type of thing, it's interesting to see the choices some people make, though.

Chaos Is Me!
28-09-2006, 11:59 PM
me because i push the boundries with my guitar.

christoph
29-09-2006, 12:01 AM
me because i push the boundries with my guitar.
well i use electronics aswell, so i'm just ripping those envelopes in half.

Chaos Is Me!
29-09-2006, 12:06 AM
well i use electronics aswell, so i'm just ripping those envelopes in half.

the other day I broke down the fences in my garden with my guitar.

Chaos Is Me!
29-09-2006, 12:13 AM
http://www.cazpilot.com/cazpilot/images/20051004-broken-lakeland-fence.jpg
check it out, broke those down with my guitar, didn't even use any effects.

christoph
29-09-2006, 12:21 AM
my tone kills kittens.

Kazuya vs Ummagumma
29-09-2006, 12:27 AM
Talking of tone, I love John Frusciante too.

And your sig is very annoying, mr person.

YellowSphere
29-09-2006, 08:48 AM
Agata, 'cos he confuses the hell out of meQuoted for Truth.

Listening to him play is like "I wonder how many Whammies he has turned on at the moment"

Ash
29-09-2006, 09:05 AM
My personal choice for overall technique/tone/feel/versatility/everything would be Paul Gilbert.

If we were going to break it down in to genres though, I'd probably have a lot of different choices, overall though, Gilbert.

Chaos Is Me!
29-09-2006, 11:06 AM
Is anyone going to say anything original or carry on splurting out the same-olds that isn't really suprising?

Wowee Zowee
29-09-2006, 11:07 AM
gwen stefani

pubicmage
29-09-2006, 11:27 AM
Dominic Howard or Miles Davis

Guitar is boring

Caff
29-09-2006, 01:26 PM
Is anyone going to say anything original or carry on splurting out the same-olds that isn't really suprising?

Would anyone dare say anything different? You say anything other than the usual suspects and you get laughed at/called an idiot by most people...and I have to say people who actually play guitar are the worst offenders for that. Not saying any of YOU lot are doing that by the way...but I've been on forums where guitarists get wanky about a "non-obvious" choice saying that he/she/it is a shit guitarist when really, why let technique get in the way? I say if someone's playing makes you feel a certain way and they don't sound like they're murdering their instrument, they're just as qualified to be the best in your *personal* opinion.

My personal favourite will always be Brian May because Queen are the first "guitar" band I really got into as a kid, and even if he's not the best from a technique pov his playing still sends shivers down my spine.

But I also have to be cliche and agree that Gilmour is amazing too.

Bjorny
29-09-2006, 01:32 PM
IMHO, John Squire, but in latter times he's only been a derivative of Jimmy Paige, really.

Dramatic Hammer
29-09-2006, 01:50 PM
Dave Gilmour, Prince (no laughing:p), SRV.

pubicmage
29-09-2006, 01:54 PM
Davey all the way.
Funny I am actually watching Pulse right now.. and that clip that was posted is of course the most brilliant song ever made.. and is from Pulse.
I am watching One of These Days right now though. Also a fabulous example of his geniusness..ness.
The Pulse versions are all so boring and lifeless. They only seemed to be in it for the money by 1994. Why else would they make The Division Bell (which was their so-called "return" to the "classic" Pink Floyd sound) then just split up after making a huge mass of money? Because they were creatively dry, probably. Gilmour was always a terrible lyricist, he just couldn't write songs. Have you seen the credits for A Momentary Lapse of Reason? haha, lots of songwriting from session musicians. Anyway, enough of the post-Waters Pink Floyd rant for now...

Comfortably Numb is such a cliché. The solo is alright, but it really is nothing special. Gilmour has done much better things than that, in my opinion. To name a few "better" solos: Fat Old Sun, the Father's Shout and Funky Dung movements from Atom Heart Mother, Ibiza Bar, Dogs, Shine On You Crazy Diamond Part 7, live versions of The Embryo and Cymabline from 1970/71. He was much more unique in the earlier years of Pink Floyd than he was in 1979 onwards.

Kazuya vs Ummagumma
29-09-2006, 04:00 PM
Agreed with Prince, he's underrated as a guitarists.

Other underrated guitarists:

Billy Corgan
Jeff Buckley
Johnny Marr
Noel Gallagher!
Frank Zappa

Humphrey Goldenbollocks
29-09-2006, 04:11 PM
Is anyone going to say anything original or carry on splurting out the same-olds that isn't really suprising?

Why don't you try naming some then?

Most guitarists are dull, just conform to whatever genre they play and there's way too much of a purist/elitest attitude amoung guitarists.

Hullmetrylution
29-09-2006, 04:22 PM
Would anyone dare say anything different? You say anything other than the usual suspects and you get laughed at/called an idiot by most people...and I have to say people who actually play guitar are the worst offenders for that. Not saying any of YOU lot are doing that by the way...but I've been on forums where guitarists get wanky about a "non-obvious" choice saying that he/she/it is a shit guitarist when really, why let technique get in the way? I say if someone's playing makes you feel a certain way and they don't sound like they're murdering their instrument, they're just as qualified to be the best in your *personal* opinion.

My personal favourite will always be Brian May because Queen are the first "guitar" band I really got into as a kid, and even if he's not the best from a technique pov his playing still sends shivers down my spine.

But I also have to be cliche and agree that Gilmour is amazing too.

Technique/catchiness over random speed any day of the week.

Adam Jones>Yngwie Malmsteen and Michael Angelo.

Alexi Lahio and Steve Vai are really the only lightning fast guitarists who can really write as good technique/catchy riffs as many of the non-lightning players. Such as Adam Jones. In my opinion.

James Dean Bradfield is awesome too.

Larsen B
29-09-2006, 04:47 PM
Andy Gill. :yesey:

As well as Mick Jones, Mr Bellamy, Mr Greenwood, Mr Marr, JDB, J-Ho and obviously Hendrix.

Wowee Zowee
29-09-2006, 04:48 PM
Andy Gill. :yesey:

As well as Mick Jones, Mr Bellamy, Mr Greenwood, Mr Marr, JDB, J-Ho and obviously Hendrix.
Ohh larsen B:noey:

Larsen B
29-09-2006, 04:50 PM
Ohh larsen B:noey:

Eh? :stunned:

Wowee Zowee
29-09-2006, 04:51 PM
Eh? :stunned:
Sorry i was just singing the song...:rolleyes:

Larsen B
29-09-2006, 04:52 PM
Sorry i was just singing the song...:rolleyes:

But for the... :noey: ...

Wowee Zowee
29-09-2006, 04:58 PM
But for the... :noey: ...
No idea:yesey:

Larsen B
29-09-2006, 05:03 PM
:stunned: X :eek:

Still....Andy Gill. :yesey:

Jase
29-09-2006, 05:05 PM
Hendrix, Gilmour or Page. Fucking obvious choices, but do I care?

Kazuya vs Ummagumma
29-09-2006, 05:36 PM
The Pulse versions are all so boring and lifeless. They only seemed to be in it for the money by 1994. Why else would they make The Division Bell (which was their so-called "return" to the "classic" Pink Floyd sound) then just split up after making a huge mass of money? Because they were creatively dry, probably. Gilmour was always a terrible lyricist, he just couldn't write songs. Have you seen the credits for A Momentary Lapse of Reason? haha, lots of songwriting from session musicians. Anyway, enough of the post-Waters Pink Floyd rant for now...

Comfortably Numb is such a cliché. The solo is alright, but it really is nothing special. Gilmour has done much better things than that, in my opinion. To name a few "better" solos: Fat Old Sun, the Father's Shout and Funky Dung movements from Atom Heart Mother, Ibiza Bar, Dogs, Shine On You Crazy Diamond Part 7, live versions of The Embryo and Cymabline from 1970/71. He was much more unique in the earlier years of Pink Floyd than he was in 1979 onwards.
Erm, who are you arguing with? I don't think any Pink Floyd fan in the world would argue with the fact that the 70's was Pink Floyd's best era and The Wall was the end of that era.

Also Gilmour has said many times that he's a terrible songwriter.

KanuTaH_HeMo
29-09-2006, 06:10 PM
Steve Vay и ниипет!!!

"Sometime I feel I wanna FUCK my guitar!" (c) Steve Vay

Rock You Monkeys
29-09-2006, 06:27 PM
Jimi Hendrix
Patrick Rondat
Andy Cairns
:happy:

SoldierOfCydonia
29-09-2006, 07:02 PM
The Pulse versions are all so boring and lifeless. They only seemed to be in it for the money by 1994. Why else would they make The Division Bell (which was their so-called "return" to the "classic" Pink Floyd sound) then just split up after making a huge mass of money? Because they were creatively dry, probably. Gilmour was always a terrible lyricist, he just couldn't write songs. Have you seen the credits for A Momentary Lapse of Reason? haha, lots of songwriting from session musicians. Anyway, enough of the post-Waters Pink Floyd rant for now...

Comfortably Numb is such a cliché. The solo is alright, but it really is nothing special. Gilmour has done much better things than that, in my opinion. To name a few "better" solos: Fat Old Sun, the Father's Shout and Funky Dung movements from Atom Heart Mother, Ibiza Bar, Dogs, Shine On You Crazy Diamond Part 7, live versions of The Embryo and Cymabline from 1970/71. He was much more unique in the earlier years of Pink Floyd than he was in 1979 onwards.

Trouble is..........there is no definitive classic-era Floyd DVD, so until one comes out, or somebody gets off there arse and invents a time machine ( if someone can come up with the design opf the Flux Capacitor i might even supply the Delorien) we'll just have to make do with Pulse.

Kazuya vs Ummagumma
29-09-2006, 07:06 PM
The Live At Pompeii DVD is Pink Floyd at their peak.

56ck0Rw-e-Y

Humphrey Goldenbollocks
29-09-2006, 07:10 PM
The Live At Pompeii DVD is Pink Floyd at their peak.

:yesey:

The performance of Echoes on there is breathtaking.

pubicmage
29-09-2006, 07:13 PM
Trouble is..........there is no definitive classic-era Floyd DVD, so until one comes out, or somebody gets off there arse and invents a time machine ( if someone can come up with the design opf the Flux Capacitor i might even supply the Delorien) we'll just have to make do with Pulse.
Or you could download a copy of the Harvested Pink Floyd video anthology, which is 3 discs of videos spanning all of their career. It's pretty damn good. And there are also two full concert videos in circulation from 1970 (KQED and Saint Tropez, the latter of which only recently surfaced), which are both as good as Pompeii, in my opinion.

They could at least release a DVD of The Wall live at Earls Court, because it's quite well known that Roger Waters has a very good quality copy. I'm guessing that he just needs Gilmour to agree with its release, which he probably won't do because it would intefere with the sales of his On An Island DVD which is probably coming out some time soon.

Here's a video of The Embryo from the Saint Tropez DVD. I think it's the only track that's on youtube, sadly..
vBkFFIALbhU

SoldierOfCydonia
29-09-2006, 07:14 PM
The Live At Pompeii DVD is Pink Floyd at their peak.

But its not definitive...ie there are only 2 songs off Dark Side of the Moon.

For years people harped on about Led Zeppelin's Song Remain's the Same not being definitive, but it covers a larger range of Zeppelin's material than Pompeii does of Floyd.

It's a shame that there isn't something from the DSOTM era (i think Pompeii was just before this if I remember) but that's not suprising.... Even in todays digital age, we haven't seen a concert film of Radioheads Ok Computer tour. If you don't count Meeting People is Easy.

Kazuya vs Ummagumma
29-09-2006, 07:16 PM
I have a video of their entire Glastonbury 97 set :)

Ash
29-09-2006, 07:21 PM
The Live At Pompeii DVD is Pink Floyd at their peak.

56ck0Rw-e-Y

That is absolutely fucking....incredible :stunned:.

I've always gone along the lines of "I've never really got into Pink Floyd" but holy fuck :stunned:

SoldierOfCydonia
29-09-2006, 07:22 PM
I have a video of their entire Glastonbury 97 set :)

Damn you! Where in the fraggle rock did you get a hold of that? I have an audio bootleg of it, called Radiohead Live at the Avalon Farm, but id love to get a hold of a video.

Humphrey Goldenbollocks
29-09-2006, 07:26 PM
But its not definitive...ie there are only 2 songs off Dark Side of the Moon.

Dark Side Of The Moon wasn't yet recorded :confused:

That's a bit like saying Hullabaloo isn't of any value because it doesn't contain songs off Absolution.

Kazuya vs Ummagumma
29-09-2006, 07:26 PM
That is absolutely fucking....incredible :stunned:.

I've always gone along the lines of "I've never really got into Pink Floyd" but holy fuck :stunned:
That's only a small part of it, the actual song is 23 minutes long. Download it.


Damn you! Where in the fraggle rock did you get a hold of that? I have an audio bootleg of it, called Radiohead Live at the Avalon Farm, but id love to get a hold of a video.
It's not the best quality in the world but I'll upload it :)

Ash
29-09-2006, 07:27 PM
Is the song Echoes?

Kazuya vs Ummagumma
29-09-2006, 07:28 PM
Yes.

Ash
29-09-2006, 07:31 PM
Downloading the best of now.

SoldierOfCydonia
29-09-2006, 08:53 PM
Dark Side Of The Moon wasn't yet recorded :confused:

That's a bit like saying Hullabaloo isn't of any value because it doesn't contain songs off Absolution.

Im not saying it has no value. By definitive I mean covering all bases, the way a Best Of compilation would. I've only really been getting into Pink Floyd (in a big way) in the last year, so Im talking about it from that angle. Although, I first heard DSOTM about 10 years ago.

Im not at the stage where I could watch Pink Floyd sitting around drinking tea and love it.

Im sure the pompei DVD is amazing, (think Im gonna buy it now:D ) Id just like to see the band walk on stage in '73 and launch straight into a blinding rendition of Breathe.

Kazuya vs Ummagumma
29-09-2006, 08:54 PM
Radiohead - Glastonbury 97 (entire set video) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VO0W8YBN)

SoldierOfCydonia
29-09-2006, 09:17 PM
Radiohead - Glastonbury 97 (entire set video) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VO0W8YBN)

Attempting download right now!!!

If this works I will be eternally grateful mate:D

james90
30-09-2006, 05:17 PM
Hendrix. Above all others.

:yesey:

There isn't much I can say about what a legend Hendrix was (because I wasn't around back then!)..In my opinion, he was the best guitarist there ever was. (I'm sure a lot of you will disagree though). I mean he never had lessons, he couldn't read music, etc...He was just 'mind blowing' or whatever you want to call it. His music was different from any other music from around that time..plus he did all that stuff like setting his guitar on fire, smashing up his amps, etc..watch the montery pop festival video. At the end of the show, everybody was like "oh my god..." they looked stunned, haha

I'm watching purple haze live at woodstock right now...fucking amazing.


Kurt Cobain. Just because he could make really horrible noises that nobody else could.

:LOL:

Kazuya vs Ummagumma
30-09-2006, 05:32 PM
Downloading the best of now.
The best of isn't all that great really. It has a horribly edited version of Echoes for a start. I'd recommend getting Meddle, Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here or Animals. Or all of them.

Landaluce
30-09-2006, 05:47 PM
Jimi and Jimmy <3
No Pink Floyd song is a bad song XDD
I'm only a bit biased

Tom
30-09-2006, 06:01 PM
Other underrated guitarists:

Billy Corgan

Such a shame about the voice.

BlackoutMatt
30-09-2006, 07:22 PM
the guitarists I like, rather than who's accepted as great by elitists...including some who are accepted by elitists.

Steph Carpenter, because of his moody slabs of riffness.
Kurt Cobain, because he was so unhinged.
Kevin Shields, master of beautiful noise.
Hetfield for services to rhythm guitar, Hammet because his solos were the first I loved, both because I like their harmonies, the obvious example being 'One'.
Dimebag, pinch harmonics obviously, and he got me hooked on portamento and chromatics. And he rules, even from beyond the grave.
George Harrison, naturally.
Nick Drake, ditto.
Elliott Smith, for similar reasons.
Vini Reilly, exceptionally gifted, otherworldly.
Prince and Hendrix, for the same reason...

and I hate Dave Gilmour. Yuck.

pubicmage
30-09-2006, 11:45 PM
No Pink Floyd song is a bad song XDD
I'm only a bit biased
Sorrow is absolutely terrible.

So is the rest of the album. Sorry.

Max Moon
01-10-2006, 12:08 AM
Why nobody makes a "best drummer " or "best bassist" ever too ?

Anyway there s not ONE guy above the rest to me , just a few ones i m enjoying more than others .

Here is my list of "faves" ones so "best" ones to me of course :

1 Brian May/Slash = both guys have a similiar style and a marvellous one .
Slash has done my fave guitar solo EVER in "Sweet Child Of Mine" which is simply unbelieveable to listen again and again .

May is a legend and i m a huge fan of his work in the last albums of the band (like in "Invisible Man", "The Miracle" or "Innuendo" for instance)

Just a classy act .

3 Tom Morello = RATM and Slave solos (mainly RATM first album) are just out of this world, he has an unique style inspired of the all time great Jimi Hendrix .
He is a great innovator and is always trying something new on songs and on stage .

4 Mark Tremonti = Creed/Alter Bridge lead guitarist is a frickin genius no doubt about it, his work in "Metalingus" or "The End Is Here" on AB first effort "One Day Remains" talks for itself : both powerful and emotionnal riffs and solos only him can do .

5 Matthew James Bellamy = yeah finally i name him cause quite frankly the guy is far more talented than some people think he is .
He is from Hendrix and Morello school and is a great student of them (well more of Tom obviously) .

I didn t rank Hendrix on this list cause I need to listen to all his work for giving his proper ranking but no doubt he deserves to be there, without him no Morello and then no Bellamy .

A guy who can plays with his own teeth deserves is in his own league of musical greatness

AJRimmer
10-10-2006, 01:10 PM
Best I've ever heard is Tommy Emmanuel. You guys probably haven't heard of him, but TRUST ME! Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPe3NsUJ54o

This isn't even my favorite style of music, but damn that's talented!

Placid Casual
10-10-2006, 03:17 PM
James Dean Bradfield, for The Holy Bible.

MissThais
11-10-2006, 01:00 PM
I like lots of guitarists but I think J.Hendrix is the best guitarist I've ever seen (on video).
Technically I believe he isn't the best but he had an enormous great presence and he seemed to be nice!!! ^^

Chizzleface
11-10-2006, 01:05 PM
Steve Vai.

Static Shadows
11-10-2006, 01:30 PM
I'll do a favourite as best is impossible (as its due to personal taste no one can ever agree)

Jimi Hendrix
Matt Bellamy
Jimmy Page
Marty Friedman
Marc Bolan
Johnny Greenwood
Santana
Jeff Buckley

Random 1-8

pubicmage
11-10-2006, 07:28 PM
Kurdt Cobain.

the electric monk
12-10-2006, 01:47 AM
jimmy page and brian may. two ppl who make playing guitar look like poetry :)

Imperium
12-10-2006, 10:49 AM
the best dosnt exist, just my favourite :)

Matt Bellamy, irrespective of this been a muse forum he can play the shit of a guitar
Tom Morello, a true innovator
Mike Einziger, such a great guitarist, great all rounder

Splinter
12-10-2006, 11:02 AM
Well ofc Matt Bellamy... although he can't play guitar like a regular person (weird string muting with thumb which us actually pretty handy, I'm using it too).

BlackoutMatt
12-10-2006, 12:51 PM
James Dean Bradfield, for The Holy Bible.


this is a very good call.

Dixkot
12-10-2006, 03:07 PM
Hello, my first post.

Pretty muddy topic is this.

People quite often find it difficult to tell the difference between 'their favourite' & 'the best'. And how are they chosen? Is it a matter of technical ability or the pleasure the music gives?

You'll notice that I'm a bit of an oldie, so I have years of experience at this ;)

Anyway enough rambling.

My favs (ability & pleasure) in no particular order.

ALEX LIFESON

NILS LOFGREN

JOE BONAMASSA

JONNY LANG

GARY MOORE

You may need to Google a couple of those names :) ;)

BlackoutMatt
12-10-2006, 04:16 PM
there can be no definitive best, perhaps there can be one that the majority agree is the best, but it's still opinion. Maybe there are some who are technically incredible, which could make them the best in terms of pure skill, but a technical genius in one person's eyes is a fret-wanking tosser in another's. So really, it's only ever going to be opinion.

Dixkot
12-10-2006, 07:51 PM
there can be no definitive best, perhaps there can be one that the majority agree is the best, but it's still opinion. Maybe there are some who are technically incredible, which could make them the best in terms of pure skill, but a technical genius in one person's eyes is a fret-wanking tosser in another's. So really, it's only ever going to be opinion.

Exactly:D

barefoot_girl
13-10-2006, 07:20 AM
Hello, my first post.


My favs (ability & pleasure) in no particular order.

ALEX LIFESON

NILS LOFGREN

JOE BONAMASSA

JONNY LANG

GARY MOORE

You may need to Google a couple of those names :) ;)

Gary Moore was in Norway this summer and played nearby where I was staying. My brother went but I didn't have enough money for a ticket but I could hear it from the house.. it sounded heavenly... the guitar sounds.. so nice and chilled out.. even though it must've been so much better at the actual concert, I'm glad I got to sort of hear it..

Placid Casual
13-10-2006, 01:06 PM
James Dean Bradfield, for The Holy Bible.this is a very good call.
I think he's one of the most under-rated guitarists ever.

The riffs and solo's are amazing to listen to on CD, but when you see him play them live with that little extra something thrown in it's just amazing.

The Holy Bible is just full of great riffs and solo's my favourite would have to be Archives Of Pain though.

Im seeing him on his solo tour on Monday, that should be decent. His solo album is pretty good, and he's throwing in a few Clash covers and Holy Bible / Everything Must Go songs into his set lists too

Newbornscreenager
13-10-2006, 01:52 PM
well you cant really say who is the best guitarist but my favourites are:

Jari Mäenpää - Wintersun
Matt Bellamy - Muse :p
Henrik Danhage - Evergrey
Jani Liimatainen - Sonata Arctica
Ritchie Blackmore - Deep Purple

mr_squirtboater
13-10-2006, 02:24 PM
I'm sure Joe Satriani should be getting a mention here. Because, MY GOD, CAN THAT GUY PLAY? As well as the obvious ones like Steve Vai, SRV etc.

Now, although he's not the best ever, it takes a HELL of a lot of skill to play as fast and as well as Herman Li. Not a legend by any stretch, but still great in my opinion

Newbornscreenager
13-10-2006, 03:13 PM
Now, although he's not the best ever, it takes a HELL of a lot of skill to play as fast and as well as Herman Li. Not a legend by any stretch, but still great in my opinion

herman li is severely over rated. go to youtube and watch him on 'betcha cant play this' clip, his playing is terribly sloppy, especially when you compare him to players like Jari Mäenpää and Jani Liimatainen and most other metal guitarists to be honest.

Humphrey Goldenbollocks
13-10-2006, 04:39 PM
I'm sure Joe Satriani should be getting a mention here. Because, MY GOD, CAN THAT GUY PLAY? As well as the obvious ones like Steve Vai, SRV etc.

The problem I have with guys like Vai and Satriani is that even though they are skilled, they don't make interesting music, anyone can learn to play guitar that fast if they put the effort in, but very few make a few power chords sound exciting, which is what talent is at the end of the day.

If anyone wants to see truly impressive guitar playing, check out some blues guitarists, can't remember any names (don't think I even knew at the time), but they make guitar sound so easy, yet watch them play and it's more insane than any shredding solo I've ever seen. But if you want to still feel good at guitar, I really wouldn't recommend it :LOL:

BlackoutMatt
14-10-2006, 11:14 AM
I think he's one of the most under-rated guitarists ever.

The riffs and solo's are amazing to listen to on CD, but when you see him play them live with that little extra something thrown in it's just amazing.

The Holy Bible is just full of great riffs and solo's my favourite would have to be Archives Of Pain though.

Im seeing him on his solo tour on Monday, that should be decent. His solo album is pretty good, and he's throwing in a few Clash covers and Holy Bible / Everything Must Go songs into his set lists too

I'd say what makes a truly great guitarist is making memorable riffs/solos/whatever. And almost everything on The Holy Bible is instantly memorable. People seem to forget how great he is because the Manics have mellowed since then and people don't pay attention to his playing anymore. Which is a shame!

on the technically brilliant guitarists being shit at making decent songs, how about Paul Gilbert? I heard a few songs off his new album, and they're beyond awful.

christoph
14-10-2006, 11:35 AM
i think Dimebag was one of those people that created riffs and solos that you would never usually find that good or interesting, but made them so.

his riffs were fairly simple to play, but always sounded so great and original. he could play really well too, so i guess he fits all the criteria in my eyes. i remember reading he was banned from playing at guitar competitions in his local area at the age of 16, because he would always win. the others never had a chance apparently.

YellowSphere
14-10-2006, 12:09 PM
If anyone wants to see truly impressive guitar playing, check out some blues guitarists, can't remember any names (don't think I even knew at the time), but they make guitar sound so easy, yet watch them play and it's more insane than any shredding solo I've ever seen. But if you want to still feel good at guitar, I really wouldn't recommend it :LOL:John McLaughlin :yesey:

BlackoutMatt
14-10-2006, 12:38 PM
i think Dimebag was one of those people that created riffs and solos that you would never usually find that good or interesting, but made them so.

his riffs were fairly simple to play, but always sounded so great and original. he could play really well too, so i guess he fits all the criteria in my eyes. i remember reading he was banned from playing at guitar competitions in his local area at the age of 16, because he would always win. the others never had a chance apparently.

Dimebag is probably my all-time favourite...everytime I listen to Pantera, I'm just floored by his playing...the way he uses chromatics to go all over the fretboard, the way he uses harmonics, the instant brilliance of his riffs and solos...what a legend...

Biro-Queen
15-10-2006, 04:03 PM
well i've only really got into music the past two years, so from what little i know an obvious one to say would be Hendrix, but i think Matt Bellamy is rather marvellous.....and that is NOT a bias opinion.

though this guy is pretty good in an interesting kinda way......

http://www.killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?ID=563

ThaliaChourouk
18-10-2006, 03:06 PM
Honestly, Matt Bellamy!!

I'm not saying this as I'm currently in the message board but I think he defo is the best musician I have ever seen!!

Alec Trevelyan
18-10-2006, 03:20 PM
Hey lets not forget... Yngwie Malmsteen!

http://www.guitarplayer.com/Pictures/web/s/s/k/yngwie_promo.jpg

He's right up there with Hendrix and Van Halen.

slipperypoo
18-10-2006, 03:22 PM
Jimi Hendrix. No question. Although, classical is a different issue.

siokenny
19-10-2006, 03:53 AM
Adam Jones

BlackoutMatt
19-10-2006, 12:18 PM
Hey lets not forget... Yngwie Malmsteen!

http://www.guitarplayer.com/Pictures/web/s/s/k/yngwie_promo.jpg

He's right up there with Hendrix and Van Halen.

I disagree, we should definitely forget Malmsteen...*shudder*...


Adam Jones...functional, but not amazing...the least important member of Tool.

pubicmage
19-10-2006, 12:39 PM
Sterling Morrison and Lou Reed.

Their sloppy guitar style is brilliant.

MattB47
19-10-2006, 05:31 PM
Matt Bellamy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGDY7fZp2qE (2:31-3:02)

and Mark Knopfler...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM0-cp6aNKI (2:56-5:50)

The gods of rock!

Alec Trevelyan
19-10-2006, 06:29 PM
I disagree, we should definitely forget Malmsteen...*shudder*...


Adam Jones...functional, but not amazing...the least important member of Tool.

:(

I'm sorry...

Yngwie Malmsteen > Dimebag

...by far

Keys
19-10-2006, 06:51 PM
Has anyone mentioned darkness guitarist yet?

jeremy kyle
19-10-2006, 07:58 PM
johnny marr.

Wowee Zowee
19-10-2006, 09:40 PM
I'm going to go with Lee Ranaldo & Thurston Moore as the greatest guitarists. They just have a great melodic sound. Each album they produce is mind blowing and they never step back on themselves.

Alec Trevelyan
19-10-2006, 10:21 PM
johnny marr.

Hells yeah! He's now with Modest Mouse which is so kickass! :D

dwydav
19-10-2006, 11:16 PM
I definitly think 2pac is in the top 10...

Wendigo
01-11-2006, 10:17 AM
Jason Becker, Marty Friedman hands down. I'm leaning more towards Friedman because some of his music is so incredibly beautiful.

IntoTheWhite
01-11-2006, 02:58 PM
PublicImage ftw!!!

jeremy kyle
01-11-2006, 03:41 PM
Hells yeah! He's now with Modest Mouse which is so kickass! :D

i know!!,i was so suprised by that :happy: :happy:

Alec Trevelyan
01-11-2006, 05:49 PM
i know!!,i was so suprised by that :happy: :happy:

Well... great minds think alike. :happy:


hmmm... hey... know whos f**king amazing? Buckethead! In a world of wankers posing with guitars, Buckethead is a breath of fresh air! :D

http://static.last.fm/proposedimages/original/6/3589/2153.jpg

IntoTheWhite
01-11-2006, 06:03 PM
hmmm... hey... know whos f**king amazing? Buckethead! In a world of wankers posing with guitars, Buckethead is a breath of fresh air! :D

I cannot stand Buckethead!! You know why?? Because he is a posing guitar wanker!!:p
But whatever tickles your pickle.

Alec Trevelyan
01-11-2006, 06:12 PM
I cannot stand Buckethead!! You know why?? Because he is a posing guitar wanker!!:p
But whatever tickles your pickle.

WHAT! :( ..................... :stunned: .................... :'(


but.... he's amazing

IntoTheWhite
01-11-2006, 06:18 PM
Aww, there there. Didn't want to make you cry. I just dislike him. A lot. Just like I dislike Slash. A lot.

Alec Trevelyan
01-11-2006, 06:25 PM
Its ok. I just need to get this sadness out of my system.









I like Slash also :$

IntoTheWhite
01-11-2006, 06:34 PM
Yes, the tendency is (in my experience, anyway) that Buckethead fans are also Slash fans. That's why I brought up Slash in the first place. Haha.

jeremy kyle
01-11-2006, 06:40 PM
Well... great minds think alike. :happy:



:happy:

Alec Trevelyan
01-11-2006, 06:48 PM
Yes, the tendency is (in my experience, anyway) that Buckethead fans are also Slash fans. That's why I brought up Slash in the first place. Haha.

:LOL:

Oh! ok!

:D

:happy:

:happy:

Jimmy Kane
02-11-2006, 12:46 PM
BRIAN HAROLD MAY :happy:

IntoTheWhite
02-11-2006, 12:56 PM
BRIAN HAROLD MAY :happy:

Fook ja.

citizen eraser
02-11-2006, 03:50 PM
Jason Becker must be up there. He was awesome and didn't even reach his peak before his illness.
My fave guitarist is Steve Hackett. A sublime musician.

kev
02-11-2006, 04:10 PM
Yes, the tendency is (in my experience, anyway) that Buckethead fans are also Slash fans. That's why I brought up Slash in the first place. Haha.
thats only the gnr connection though.. the way they both play couldn't be more different. slash seems to be a man of the retro and he does it well with good melody buckethead seems to be (least more in his early days) about experimenting with just what noises a person could get out of a guitar if they wanted to replicate the sounds of robots fighting or shooting lasers or something

IntoTheWhite
02-11-2006, 05:29 PM
thats only the gnr connection though.. the way they both play couldn't be more different. slash seems to be a man of the retro and he does it well with good melody buckethead seems to be (least more in his early days) about experimenting with just what noises a person could get out of a guitar if they wanted to replicate the sounds of robots fighting or shooting lasers or something

Absolutely. I don't think the way they play is very similarat all, but still people who like Buckethead often like Slash.

BlackoutMatt
03-11-2006, 11:07 PM
:(

I'm sorry...

Yngwie Malmsteen > Dimebag

...by far

ahaha, but...but no!!!

Mr Malmsteen could never write riffs and licks like those Dimebag created...no matter his enourmous talent...

...or excellent guitar playing.




I don't know why this situation called for innuendo...and who knows if it is?

still, whether it's that or his guitar, it's the same result...

Wendigo
04-11-2006, 05:14 AM
Jason Becker must be up there. He was awesome and didn't even reach his peak before his illness.
My fave guitarist is Steve Hackett. A sublime musician.

Hackett really did write some lovely music. My favorite of his remains horizons

dazed and confused
07-11-2006, 03:49 AM
I Made a List The Other Day Of My top 10 (in no particular order)
Jimmy Page
Jack White
Pete Townshend
Jimi Hendrix
Eric Clapton
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Robert Johnson
B.B. King
George Harrison
Joe Strummer

Niles
07-11-2006, 03:55 AM
I Made a List The Other Day Of My top 10 (in no particular order)
Jimmy Page
Jack White
Pete Townshend
Jimi Hendrix
Eric Clapton
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Robert Johnson
B.B. King
George Harrison
Joe Strummer

Bit out of place that one?

Jacky Boy
07-11-2006, 11:35 AM
David Gilmour, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Tom Morello, Jonny Greenwood and Matt Bellamy are some of the best in my opinion, I haven't based it all on technical ability, I've based it on that and how good they are at writing music and how good they generally sound.

Riggy
07-11-2006, 12:08 PM
Steve Vai

hands down the Vai has it (Listen to Juice and you'l see (hear?) why.

Juice Live - Steve Vai (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqhzAGkN3oo)

But these come close..

Joe Satriani
Yngwie Malmsteen
Paul Gilbert
Jon Petrucci
Rusty Cooley
Michael Angelo Batio

I think Hendrix is overrated.

pubicmage
07-11-2006, 01:03 PM
There is no best guitarist ever.

red
09-11-2006, 04:13 PM
Steve Vai

hands down the Vai has it (Listen to Juice and you'l see (hear?) why.

Juice Live - Steve Vai (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqhzAGkN3oo)

But these come close..

Joe Satriani
Yngwie Malmsteen
Paul Gilbert
Jon Petrucci
Rusty Cooley
Michael Angelo Batio

I think Hendrix is overrated.
damn straight. everyone else are noobs. whoever said adam jones needs to wake up and smell the spade hands fucking rosetta stoned up live.

Enemy
09-11-2006, 04:25 PM
There is no best guitarist ever.

Agree.

But Hendrix comes close.

Imperium
09-11-2006, 04:29 PM
There is no best guitarist ever.

so so true.

pubicmage
09-11-2006, 04:35 PM
But it's still a decent thread to list some good guitarists, I guess.

Manuel Göttsching is an amazing guitarist, his style is so unique. But I doubt anybody else here has heard of him.

IntoTheWhite
09-11-2006, 09:32 PM
But it's still a decent thread to list some good guitarists, I guess.

Manuel Göttsching is an amazing guitarist, his style is so unique. But I doubt anybody else here has heard of him.

So that's why you wanted the keyboard shortcut of umlauts!!
Anyway, I've heard of him!! Ash Ra, rite??

pubicmage
09-11-2006, 10:06 PM
Yezz, he was in Ash Ra Tempel and he literally was Ashra, becuzz there were no other band members on most Ashra albums!

IntoTheWhite
09-11-2006, 10:50 PM
Ha!! I was right!! I didn't expect that!! I rawk!!

laughs and smiles
10-11-2006, 09:56 PM
To me....

Jimmy Hendrix!!!
Slash
Brian May
Kirk Hammett
Jimmy Page

jeremy kyle
10-11-2006, 09:58 PM
johnny marr.
johnny greenwood.

ah theres so many.

laughs and smiles
10-11-2006, 10:01 PM
And...

Paco de Lucia
Ibanez

BlackoutMatt
11-11-2006, 01:40 PM
But it's still a decent thread to list some good guitarists, I guess.

Manuel Göttsching is an amazing guitarist, his style is so unique. But I doubt anybody else here has heard of him.


he invented techno, didn't he?

well, defined it. Or so I've heard.

pubicmage
11-11-2006, 02:22 PM
Not really. He definitely influenced techno musicians and paved the way for them, alongside the likes of Klaus Schulze (his former bandmate in Ash Ra Tempel), Tangerine Dream, NEU!, and Kraftwerk, amongst others. He was deffo innovator of the synth, but his early work was almost exclusively guitar-based.

Chroniccronners
12-11-2006, 06:43 PM
IF it sounds good i like it John Frucianti is my fave guitarist cos he really plays from his heart.

youknowwhoiam
30-11-2006, 06:00 PM
IF it sounds good i like it John Frucianti is my fave guitarist cos he really plays from his heart.

+11111111111111111111111111111.....1

pubicmage
30-11-2006, 06:03 PM
Jerry Garcia is great. I like the fact that he never played one song the same way more than once.

Josh
01-12-2006, 09:17 AM
There's no best guitarist really.

A few good ones..

Jimi Hendrix
Jimmy Page
Karl Sanders
Pat O'Brian
Paul Gilbert
Or Wacław Kiełtyka

BuryMe
01-12-2006, 04:17 PM
Jimmy Page or David Gilmour

0ptriX
01-12-2006, 05:03 PM
Dimebag Darrell.

jambo10
01-12-2006, 05:04 PM
Some cracking guitarist, such as in no particlar order-
John Frucinati
Jimi Hendrix
Mark Knopfler
Santana
Eric Clapton
Matt Bellamy
James Dean Bradfield
Steve Rothery
but to name some, and there are plenty of others too...

but top two must be-

Brian May
Eddie Van Halen

Chaos Is Me!
01-12-2006, 05:12 PM
mee

Alec Trevelyan
01-12-2006, 05:39 PM
Larry LaLonde

BluGrace
01-12-2006, 06:47 PM
Jimmie & Stevie Ray Vaughan

0ptriX
01-12-2006, 06:59 PM
mee
This guy

Spc.Dmnt
01-12-2006, 07:02 PM
Not in order........

Steve Vai
Yngwie Malmsteen
Jimi Hendrix
Joe Satriani
Santana
...
...
...

manicstreetjimmehs
01-12-2006, 09:28 PM
best, in terms of pure technical skill, has got to be paco de lucia.

there's not really any other objective way you can measure it....the most influential in rock is obviously jimi hendrix....but my favourites are:

ritchie blackmore
randy rhoads
brian may
and of course matt bellamy.

jeremy kyle
01-12-2006, 09:30 PM
mee

+ers 1 millionzzsz!!"!!"£!oneone!!!

kingcools
01-12-2006, 11:05 PM
[QUOTE=haze015;2268428]The problem I have with guys like Vai and Satriani is that even though they are skilled, they don't make interesting music, anyone can learn to play guitar that fast if they put the effort in, [{QUOTE]

No, that is not correct ^^ one is limited by his individual physical limit, which is even possible to determine, so only a few are able to play like vai or satriani do ^^

Riggy
01-12-2006, 11:07 PM
[QUOTE=haze015;2268428]The problem I have with guys like Vai and Satriani is that even though they are skilled, they don't make interesting music, anyone can learn to play guitar that fast if they put the effort in, [{QUOTE]

No, that is not correct ^^ one is limited by his individual physical limit, which is even possible to determine, so only a few are able to play like vai or satriani do ^^

+1

and besides, neither vai or satch play particulary fast, compared to yngwie malmsteen, theyre are more about rythym and feel.

manicstreetjimmehs
01-12-2006, 11:17 PM
anyone who says vai and satch only play fast knows fuck all about them, simple as that.

Riggy
01-12-2006, 11:22 PM
anyone who says vai and satch only play fast knows fuck all about them, simple as that.

+37598765

technical does not mean fast. end of.

0ptriX
02-12-2006, 01:36 PM
Speed doesn't usually equate to good listening.

best, in terms of pure technical skill, has got to be paco de lucia.
My dad always goes on about him!


YNGWIE DOEN LIEK DONUTS (from Pantera home vid (I think Dime's holding the camera)):
yYjpfgDsmzQ

pubicmage
02-12-2006, 01:40 PM
Speed doesn't usually equate to good listening.
True. I would much rather listen to one of David Gilmour's slow guitar solos than anything Yngwie Malmsteen has ever recorded. All Malmsteen ever seems to do is sweep picking, his technique is so boring. Guys like Gilmour actually have unique playing techniques (and know how to use effects properly), even if they might not be as technically advanced as Malmsteen.

Although, that's not to say that all fast playing isn't good to listen to.

manicstreetjimmehs
02-12-2006, 01:45 PM
+37598765

technical does not mean fast. end of.

are you agreeing or disagreeing with me? I never said technical only means fast. But fast is a big part of tech. skill.

Jase123
03-12-2006, 01:15 PM
n00bs....Vai FTW.
True showman and extraordinary player...you will know what im talking about if you have seen him live. He plays his guitar in such a way that it is as if he is talking using the guitar, all he needs to do is pull the facial expressions, when you are in the audience its like you're having a conversation. And which ever nub said that his music was boring is a moron.
I'm also a fan of Satch too.

pubicmage
03-12-2006, 01:18 PM
And which ever nub said that his music was boring is a moron.
How does saying that make somebody moronic? It's not like he is a good composer. He is a good guitar player, yes, but his music is unimpressive.

Jase123
03-12-2006, 01:22 PM
his music is far from unimpressive.

Humphrey Goldenbollocks
03-12-2006, 01:39 PM
No, that is not correct ^^ one is limited by his individual physical limit, which is even possible to determine, so only a few are able to play like vai or satriani do ^^

I disagree with both points you made there, there are lots of really skilled guitarists who can play to their standard and there are loads of ways to build up your ability on guitar, individual physical ability isn't that much of a barrier as you'd probably think.

Anyway, I've never known anyone who isn't a guitarist who listens to Vai/Satch/Malmsteen etc and enjoys it, so they can't be that good.

Jase123
03-12-2006, 01:42 PM
Anyway, I've never known anyone who isn't a guitarist who listens to Vai/Satch/Malmsteen etc and enjoys it, so they can't be that good.

eh? i know heaps of people...

pubicmage
03-12-2006, 01:43 PM
Anyway, I've never known anyone who isn't a guitarist who listens to Vai/Satch/Malmsteen etc and enjoys it, so they can't be that good.
Ditto. And even the people I know that do play guitar don't like their music.

Blackthorne
03-12-2006, 02:06 PM
Me! :D lol (an un-ego joke btw) :rolleyes: Na i think id say.....actually i have no idea, my favourite guitarist is Matt because he seems to have an ace personality and hes a very clever bloke, especially with a guitar. But as for who has most talent...i dont know enough to judge :rolleyes:

Humphrey Goldenbollocks
04-12-2006, 03:42 PM
Ditto. And even the people I know that do play guitar don't like their music.

Depends on the guitarist really. Another thing is, you don't see many people citing those guys as the inspiration for picking up guitar, which surely is what the true greats have done, technical skill isn't that important in comparison.

Marvolo
04-12-2006, 03:57 PM
[QUOTE=haze015;2268428]The problem I have with guys like Vai and Satriani is that even though they are skilled, they don't make interesting music, anyone can learn to play guitar that fast if they put the effort in, [{QUOTE]


No, that is not correct ^^ one is limited by his individual physical limit, which is even possible to determine, so only a few are able to play like vai or satriani do ^^

Thats not true..

eh? i know heaps of people...

Yes,but he doesnt.

Apocalypse King
05-12-2006, 12:14 PM
Anyway, I've never known anyone who isn't a guitarist who listens to Vai/Satch/Malmsteen etc and enjoys it, so they can't be that good.

I know tons of non-guitarists and non-musicians that love them.

I'm a guitarist, and they bore me to death really.

Anyways, it's obvious that I'm the best guitarist that has ever lived, and my astounding technique will never be bettered by any human.

pubicmage
05-12-2006, 01:17 PM
I know tons of non-guitarists and non-musicians that love them.

I'm a guitarist, and they bore me to death really.

Anyways, it's obvious that I'm the best guitarist that has ever lived, and my astounding technique will never be bettered by any human.
im better

Iron Muse
05-12-2006, 01:25 PM
There's no best guitarist really.

A few good ones..

Jimi Hendrix
Jimmy Page
Karl Sanders
Pat O'Brian
Paul Gilbert
Or Wacław Kiełtyka
Doug Aldrich

manicstreetjimmehs
09-12-2006, 01:57 PM
am i the only person who mentioned paco de lucia?

Jase123
09-12-2006, 02:10 PM
jeff loomis is pretty good.

Clunge
09-12-2006, 02:29 PM
Johnny Borrell.

pubicmage
09-12-2006, 02:33 PM
Steve Hackett is amazing.

Steve Howe is very good too. I wish I could like his music.

manicstreetjimmehs
09-12-2006, 02:53 PM
jeff loomis is pretty good.


some of his stuff is insane, namely psalm of lydia.

jeremy kyle
09-12-2006, 03:30 PM
im still sticking with jonny marr.

Pran
10-12-2006, 10:47 AM
I think Paul Gilbert has the best balance in terms of both amazing technical ability and musicality. Scott Henderson deserves to be up there too though.

pubicmage
10-12-2006, 05:13 PM
Michael Karoli of Can is the best guitar player of all time. He's a decent violinist, too.

manicstreetjimmehs
10-12-2006, 08:13 PM
I think Paul Gilbert has the best balance in terms of both amazing technical ability and musicality. Scott Henderson deserves to be up there too though.


if you truly think that, i beg you, listen to more music from these guitarists:

tommy emmanuel
michael hedges
buckethead
paco de lucia
john mclaughlin
shawn lane

if you still think paul gilbert has the best balance.....get your ears cut off :p

the aurora
10-12-2006, 10:29 PM
Matt Bellamy
Santana
Eric Clapton

smileszuss
11-12-2006, 04:14 AM
:happy: STEVIE RAY VAUGHN
:D HENDRIX
oh, yeah!

Bradass
11-12-2006, 02:17 PM
The only speed playing fret wanker I like is Buckethead, and that's because he plays almost every style and can write a beast of a song.

My favourite guitarists (joint number 1) are John Frusciante and J Mascis (Dinosaur Jr.)

Frusciante is just amazing, especially in his solo work. He play straight from his heart and I have never heard someone convey such emotion with a guitar.

Mascis has to be the most underrated guitarist ever. His solos aare especially good.

Pran
11-12-2006, 03:03 PM
if you truly think that, i beg you, listen to more music from these guitarists:

tommy emmanuel
michael hedges
buckethead
paco de lucia
john mclaughlin
shawn lane

if you still think paul gilbert has the best balance.....get your ears cut off :p

The thing is, musicality is more of an opinionated thing. I prefer Paul Gilbert's music in general to any of those you've listed, and he has plenty of technical ability for me to consider him to be one of the best.

That said, I don't really listen to that much technical guitar music anyway. My favourite guitarist these days is John Mayer.

Alec Trevelyan
11-12-2006, 04:05 PM
The only speed playing fret wanker I like is Buckethead, and that's because he plays almost every style and can write a beast of a song.

:yesey:

Buchethead is simply amazing.... there is no style he can't shred.

:D

-aMUSEd-
11-12-2006, 05:11 PM
Johnny Borrell.

:LOL: :LOL: Surely not....

The Edge, I love how he totally has the capability to pull off huge, amazing solos (ie Bullet The Blue Sky) but he doesn't go too overboard - for example, the end of With Or Without You is the most simple little tune. But it fits with the song perfectly - the way he plays can change my mood and is totally inspiring. He rocks. :)

Bradass
11-12-2006, 08:25 PM
I can't stand the Edge, he's just got one chord/tune he reuses every record.

Actually, add Mike McCready to my list.
Every time I hear the solo in Yellow Ledbetter I go cold.

SnowWhite
20-12-2006, 07:48 AM
Jeff Loomis - Nevermore
http://www.nevermore.tv/gallery/hessl//IMG_4719-copy.jpg http://www.nevermore.tv/gallery/hessl//nevermoreDiv-04.jpg
and another one with me when i was 10 ;) hahahaha omg ... that`s 12 years old :|


Dave Matthews
http://mikeperrymedia.com/photos/dave_matthews00.jpg
have not seen him live :(

pedromanuelmoreira
25-12-2006, 05:31 PM
I can't stand the Edge, he's just got one chord/tune he reuses every record.

Actually, add Mike McCready to my list.
Every time I hear the solo in Yellow Ledbetter I go cold.

oh yeah!!

i add: adam jones, pete townshend, hendrix, satriani, gilmour, steve vai, brian may, and many more.

Teh Man v1.2
25-12-2006, 05:45 PM
Johnny Borrell.

That's as offensive as Matt Bellamy.

Mockingbird
25-12-2006, 05:59 PM
Elliott Smith <3

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/joey_pahoey/elliott.jpg

La Lisa
25-12-2006, 06:03 PM
Jimi Hendrix ofcourse:cool:
Jack White is also awesome!
Keith Richards (although I don't like the Rolling Stones because of Mick's voice:$ )

Jacky Boy
25-12-2006, 06:37 PM
Nick Drake

Bradass
25-12-2006, 11:29 PM
Nick Drake

+10


Also, I vote for Graham Coxon too.
Same reason as Mascis, there's just an energy in his music that is fucking unmatched practically.

Mona
27-12-2006, 09:48 PM
Jimmy Page,
Jimi Hendrix,
Carlos Santana
and a few more..

Mona
27-12-2006, 09:49 PM
Nick Drake

Him too.

Britrock
27-12-2006, 10:48 PM
Best how? Technically, song writing-y, dynamically?

Meh, whatever, I vote Morello. Technically sound and part of one of the biggest bands of the 90s. And pretty unique at the same time.

Aske
31-12-2006, 12:45 PM
Kurt Cobain. Just because he could make really horrible noises that nobody else could.

Gilmour is overrated. There are lots of better guitarists than him.
who is this Gilmour i keep hearing about? what band is he in? and i´ll say Jimmy Page

manicstreetjimmehs
31-12-2006, 01:18 PM
who is this Gilmour i keep hearing about? what band is he in? and i´ll say Jimmy Page

:eek:

pink floyd???!?!?!?!

heard of them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgFzT0k8HP0

john mclaughlin, al di meola and paco de lucia.

and rusty cooley: an example of what too much tech. skill does to your music (ie makes it shit lol): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvSbh59XhnI

AdamParker1986
16-01-2007, 12:40 PM
Jimmy Page...all the way!!

Riggy
16-01-2007, 06:42 PM
Jon Gomm


He's not insanely fast, he plays bass, rhythm, lead and drums all on one accoustic guitar as well as singing, Leeds local, there is no finer gutiarist anywhere on the planet, in terms of what he does, he could blow people like Steve Vai away.

Don't get me wrong, he can move on that fretboard when he wants to though.

I've only seem him live once, but it was amazing.

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jeremy kyle
16-01-2007, 07:28 PM
Elliott Smith <3

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/joey_pahoey/elliott.jpg

somebody is trying to be jonny marr a little to much.:rolleyes:

SqueekyBigfoot
08-07-2008, 10:56 PM
Matt Rach!!!! (hes only 17)

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gunnerthekiwi
08-07-2008, 11:56 PM
There is no 'best guitarist ever'. These are some of my favourites though.

Jimmy Page
Tom Morello
Jonny Greenwood
Jack White
Paul Ubana Jones (look him up)
John Petrucci

And yes Matt, because he did pretty much inspire me to pick up the guitar again after a break of three years or so.

Edit:
Also Billy Corgan. Not because he's that great a guitarist, I just love his tone :)

The_Tourist
09-07-2008, 01:51 AM
Jimmy Page, Jimi hendrix and Dimebag Darrell... I am forgetting somebody, I know...
OH WAIT: BUCKETHEAD!!!! (Brian Carroll)

Noel Gallagher
09-07-2008, 02:18 AM
Jimi Hendrix (original:rolleyes:), Mark Knopfler, Johnny Marr, Eric Clapton, Andy Bell (the ex-Ride one)

jonnno
09-07-2008, 02:28 AM
I'd have to say Danny Gatton, he could do everything with that guitar. And do it well, not just have a lazy hack at it.

Debi
09-07-2008, 04:50 AM
When I was little Brian May made me want to learn guitar. I thought he looked so cool playing. He still does. :D

Ghosty Ghost
09-07-2008, 08:54 AM
Some of my favourites are Marc Ribot, Lee Ranaldo/Thurston Moore (though I feel bad about their always being lumped together) and Carrie Brownstein. I think Joni Mitchell is a very clever guitarist for the unusual tunings and whatnot. Jack White and Isaac Brock are two reasonably uncomplicated players whose sounds I really dig.

susurr0
09-07-2008, 11:18 AM
Not the best guitarist ever, in fact I don't believe this "thing", because you can't really say ONE is the best, based on what? what style? blah blah, BUT

I just wanted to mention David Gilmour here.



And Omar A. Rodriguez-Lopez.

monkey_paw
09-07-2008, 11:19 AM
Kevin Shields

beachbabe
09-07-2008, 07:36 PM
John Petrucci from Dream Theater

lyricalwax
09-07-2008, 11:12 PM
Most people will disagree, but in terms of live performances, for me it's Jack White.

SqueekyBigfoot
09-07-2008, 11:28 PM
my favorites in no order:

Jimi Hendrix, Frank Marino, Brian May, Randy Rhodes, Matt Rach, Eric Clapton, Eddie Van Halen, Stevie Ray Vaughan, and Paul Gilbert

gunnerthekiwi
10-07-2008, 02:34 AM
They have a better thread on the Ultimate Guitar forums - guitarist with the coolest playing stance.

In my opinion you can't beat the Greenwood slouch :yesey:
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/2/3/9/2/16822932-16822935-slarge.jpg

Apocalyptic Gerbil
10-07-2008, 10:21 AM
John Petrucci by a long shot!

Orny92
10-07-2008, 12:06 PM
Jimi Hendrix, Randy Rhoads, David Gilmour, Jimmy Page, John Petrucci, Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen, Joe Satriani, Ritchie Blackmore, Steve Morse,Allan Holdsworth, Al Di Meola, Paco De Lucia, Eddie Van Halen, Dimebag Darrell (RIP), Tony Iommi, Alex Lifeson, Zakk Wylde, Dave Mustaine, Jeff Beck, Marty Friedman, Paul Gilbert.... so many..

Orny92
10-07-2008, 12:07 PM
John Petrucci from Dream Theater

John Petrucci by a long shot!

you guys are great ;););)

Crayola
10-07-2008, 03:24 PM
After watching his Glasto set, gotta say Buddy Guy at the moment. He was completely taking the piss but sounded stunning and didn't rely on pointless fretwanking.

SqueekyBigfoot
10-07-2008, 04:03 PM
After watching his Glasto set, gotta say Buddy Guy at the moment. He was completely taking the piss but sounded stunning and didn't rely on pointless fretwanking.

ohh yea i forgot about him i saw him live at a Jimi Hendrix tribute show he is ace.

exitmusic
10-07-2008, 04:52 PM
has anyone mentioned Jake e lee ozzys guitarist after Randy Rhoads died great guitarist ozzy always seems to pick really great guitarists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSNuIzw9VfU

SqueekyBigfoot
10-07-2008, 05:07 PM
i really like that stage their performing on in that vid where is that?

exitmusic
10-07-2008, 05:11 PM
i really like that stage their performing on in that vid where is that?

are you talking bout the ozzy vid i posted dunno where it is but the stage used to always be like that back in the early 80's when randy rhoads was still alive and jake e lee used to be guitarist

not great quality but you can still see stage more

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCdJkFGGHfg&feature=related

sventington
25-02-2012, 12:22 PM
Jeff Loomis of Nevermore is pretty great.

jdeboer01
25-02-2012, 02:55 PM
"Best guitar player" is so subjective. Also, the styles they play are so varied. There's just no way they can be rated.

I can say that Dave Gilmour is one of my favorite guitar players, and that would be a fact. :D

What about some of the uber sick virtuosos out there?

Like Buckethead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czpwrg8zNls

Or Yngwie Malmsteen (personally can't stand him because he's a total asshole)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvKqxNea9iA

Sippe
25-02-2012, 03:08 PM
Or Yngwie Malmsteen (personally can't stand him because he's a total asshole)
And I can't stand him because of the music he plays. God it's awful.

sventington
25-02-2012, 03:11 PM
It is pretty dire. He's crazy talented though, and it's a shame he couldn't do much with such ability.

Gareeh
25-02-2012, 03:15 PM
below Jimi

Joe Bonamassa, Morello, Mayer, Jack White, BB King, Jimmy Page etc etc...

jdeboer01
25-02-2012, 03:32 PM
More uber sick virtuosos anyone?

Steve Vai:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHRioPqAqe4

John Petrucci:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkrV8Pdw8uM&feature=related

Gareeh
25-02-2012, 03:38 PM
Stop using 'uber' and it seems you really overrate tapping, a lot.

Sippe
25-02-2012, 03:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbwjeOcmtGg

jdeboer01
25-02-2012, 03:49 PM
Stop using 'uber' and it seems you really overrate tapping, a lot.

uber uber uber uber uber uber uber uber uber uber uber uber uber uber. :rolleyes:

Look, I'm not a huge fan of any of the players I've posted. I do recognize their extremely impressive speed, however. Most of the guys that are crazy fast do happen to use tapping quite a bit, yes. And I agree that tapping is overrated.

I honestly don't think guitar players can be rated because tastes are so subjective. To me, it's about how they compliment and express a song. :)

Sippe
25-02-2012, 03:53 PM
To me, it's about how they compliment and express a song. :)
No one is saying that you can't post those ;)

jdeboer01
25-02-2012, 03:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbwjeOcmtGg

Wow! Slap guitar! :LOL: Sounds a bit like Les Claypool/Primus. I like it, but I don't think I could take a whole album of it. :p

Sippe
25-02-2012, 04:01 PM
Wow! Slap guitar! :LOL: Sounds a bit like Les Claypool/Primus. I like it, but I don't think I could take a whole album of it. :p
It gets incredibly boring after a while, but luckily his music usually isn't that guitar focued. He has some really great stuff.

FabriPav
25-02-2012, 04:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbwjeOcmtGg

holy shit

Sippe
25-02-2012, 04:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3z3t4MNo_c

:happy:

FabriPav
25-02-2012, 04:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3z3t4MNo_c

:happy:

holy shit pt. 2

I can't find a torrent/download link for his last album :(

jdeboer01
25-02-2012, 05:00 PM
No one is saying that you can't post those ;)

Rarely do I listen to a song and consciously critique the quality of the instrumentation -- unless that's the only thing the song is really about. That's all some of the "virtuosos" are about -- "Look at how fucking awesome I am" - Not about, "Listen to how fucking awesome this song is."

For example, was Kurt Cobain a technically great guitar player? Absolutely not. Were his songs great, and did his playing compliment them? Absolutely yes! :)

I dunno. It seems like really geeking out over how "good" a guitar player is kind of a "guy" thing. I guess I do it sometimes, but I honestly don't get how obsessed some of the guys over in "Kit & Tab" are. :chuckle:

Electricmuser96
25-02-2012, 08:36 PM
For example, was Kurt Cobain a technically great guitar player? Absolutely not. Were his songs great, and did his playing compliment them? Absolutely yes! :)

I've got sort of similar thoughts like this, I don't like artists who have a "Look how fast I can play" attitude Dragonforce. Nor do I tend to like the audience mindset of faster player=better player. How a guitarist plays should compliment the music and meaning of the song. If playing fast or technical playing does that - fair enough, if it's just there for the sake of it then I don't like it. All just my opinions of course.

Different people judge 'best player' many different ways. How original they are, technical skill, how influential they are, method/playing style - the list goes on.

Also my favourite guitarists (not 'best' because I'm not sure how to judge it) are Jimi Hendrix, Tom Morello, Jonny Greenwood and Matt Bellamy. That's mainly because each of them have very individual aspects of playing (Bellamy isn't amazingly original I know but he still does some things differently to any other guitarist I've seen) that I love.

Sippe
25-02-2012, 08:43 PM
I've got sort of similar thoughts like this, I don't like artists who have a "Look how fast I can play" attitude Dragonforce. Nor do I tend to like the audience mindset of faster player=better player. How a guitarist plays should compliment the music and meaning of the song. If playing fast or technical playing does that - fair enough, if it's just there for the sake of it then I don't like it. All just my opinions of course.But I don't see how that would mean that you can't post anything relevant to this thread. It IS possible to appreciate guitarists for other things that technicality and still be on topic.

Kueller917
25-02-2012, 08:49 PM
Also my favourite guitarists (not 'best' because I'm not sure how to judge it) are Jimi Hendrix, Tom Morello, Jonny Greenwood and Matt Bellamy. That's mainly because each of them have very individual aspects of playing (Bellamy isn't amazingly original I know but he still does some things differently to any other guitarist I've seen) that I love.

I really like a lot of the stuff Greenwood does. But I too also hate when guitarists have that "look at how fast I am" attitude. There's still some shredders though that don't always make their songs giant solos, and I like them.

And I can't stand him because of the music he plays. God it's awful.

+1

jdeboer01
25-02-2012, 10:05 PM
But I don't see how that would mean that you can't post anything relevant to this thread. It IS possible to appreciate guitarists for other things that technicality and still be on topic.

I probably have no one to list who hasn't already been listed. :p

Dave Gilmour never ceases to give me chills. He'd certainly be in my top 5. But if the songs weren't as amazing as they are, particularly The Wall and earlier, he probably wouldn't even be on the radar.

I haven't looked at the whole thread, seeing as it was old revival, but I'll throw Pete Townshend out there. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3Ku1LoYJDSs/S_OMeIfXuZI/AAAAAAAAAdg/qo0ogkkHv6o/s1600/Pete-Townshend-Keith-Moon-19721.jpg

I've always felt that Prince is an utterly smoking guitar player. He was tasteful about it, and always left you wanting more. He's a fucking amazing vocalist too. :p You must be familiar with him Sippe, yes?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HnvNtgZmLc