Hope Of The States

[deadstar880]

They're still going to release their debut after the loss of their guitarist. Will be THE best album of 2004 without a doubt. Britian's new Radiohead/Godspeed You Black Emeperor cross-over.

And they've got a violinist. Kudos for that.

[Matthew]

i can't wait for their album

Sts'ikel demo has to be one of the best songs i heard last year

Black Dollar Bills is amazing too ^_^

[Don't Feed The Ducks]

Black Dollar Bills is really nice... and the only song I know by them... *goes to download more*

[tremelo]

HOTS are amazing, im so glad they're gonna stick together and keep recording.

[Larsen B]

ooh the first ive heard from them is 'The blue the red the black the white' or a similar order..

what can i say, i love it roll on the new album, im really glad they decided to saty together if this is what they produce, though it was a tragic thing to happen :(

[Snapman]

Yeah, their debut is probably going to be one of the best albums of 2004. Any band with a violinst deserves instant respect.

My fave songs of theirs are Static In The Cities (one of my fave all time b-sides), and Black Dollar Bills.

Roll on June 7th!

[Nancuk]

I've known these guys for years. I think they're great, gonna go see them on their new tour. I really love the new single.

[Alex]

Yep, HOTS are quality. I agree Snapman, Static is a brilliant b-side. I can't wait to see them in Nottingham next month.

[Richard Lane]

i think HOTS are one of th best things to come out of england since muse. they hv so much potential. i am seeing em live soon. cant wait.l

[4Q Im Manx]

They're still going to release their debut after the loss of their guitarist. Will be THE best album of 2004 without a doubt. Britian's new Radiohead/Godspeed You Black Emeperor cross-over.

And they've got a violinist. Kudos for that.

I love HOTS, i reeeeeaaaaaalllly do. But the Zutons album is wonderful and until i know every single mother (expletive) on this board has bought the album i wont stop talking about them.

Oh and theyve got a saxophonist, and shes sexeh.

[Richard Lane]

I love HOTS, i reeeeeaaaaaalllly do. But the Zutons album is wonderful and until i know every single mother (expletive) on this board has bought the album i wont stop talking about them.

Oh and theyve got a saxophonist, and shes sexeh.

hummmmmmmm the zutons. they are just a bad version of the coral. lucky for them that makes them an average band, cause the coral are amazing. but i like something original in the music i listen to, like HOTS etc.

[4Q Im Manx]

hummmmmmmm the zutons. they are just a bad version of the coral. lucky for them that makes them an average band, cause the coral are amazing. but i like something original in the music i listen to, like HOTS etc.
what narrow minded drivel :) . If they're a poor man's coral then Muse are a Radiohead cover band.

[glasskite]

hummmmmmmm the zutons. they are just a bad version of the coral. lucky for them that makes them an average band, cause the coral are amazing. but i like something original in the music i listen to, like HOTS etc.
no no, the BANDITS are a poor man's coral. which makes them pretty dire cos the coral is scally rock :p

[Hoppipolla]

They're an interesting band.

I like.

[Ollie of Symmetry]

Hey i am gonna be seeing these genius workers in concert on tuesday and i just wondered do any other muse fans like then, they came out with there 1st single last year i think but then they had to cancel all the bands plans as the guitarist died :( but now they are back with a new songs which is amazin like wise to the song called black dollar bills which was released lastr year, the new song is called the red, the white, the black, the blue,

its a clasic song u might have seen the vid u will remember it cause there thee band wid the violin player :)

any fans out there :cool:

[Hoppipolla]

Hey i am gonna be seeing these genius workers in concert on tuesday and i just wondered do any other muse fans like then, they came out with there 1st single last year i think but then they had to cancel all the bands plans as the guitarist died :( but now they are back with a new songs which is amazin like wise to the song called black dollar bills which was released lastr year, the new song is called the red, the white, the black, the blue,

its a clasic song u might have seen the vid u will remember it cause there thee band wid the violin player :)

any fans out there :cool:

Look around.

They've been mentioned, on this page. I bet you to it, basically, cos just before this topic was created - i replied to the post making it come up on the first page and now you look silly. Mwaha!

[Ollie of Symmetry]

i know thsi aint es[peically the best thing to mention but does anyone know how the guitarist died :(

r.i.p.

[Hoppipolla]

i know thsi aint es[peically the best thing to mention but does anyone know how the guitarist died :(

r.i.p.

Hung himself, as far as i know.

[Nancuk]

Hung himself, as far as i know.

yeh. In the studio.

[Neil]

Beautiful music :cool:

[Hoppipolla]

yeh. In the studio.

How pleasant.

[Richard Lane]

saw them live yesturday in Oxford. they were amazing.

here is the set list for those who care:

The Black Amnesias
66 Sleepers Of Summers
George Washington
Black Stars, Red Stars
Black Dollar Bills
The Red, The White, The Black, The Blue
Me Ves Y Sufres
Nehemiyah
Enemies/Friends

Encore:
Farewell To Pripyat
Static In The Cities

Richard.

[Matthew]

saw them live yesturday in Oxford. they were amazing.

here is the set list for those who care:

The Black Amnesias
66 Sleepers Of Summers
George Washington
Black Stars, Red Stars
Black Dollar Bills
The Red, The White, The Black, The Blue
Me Ves Y Sufres
Nehemiyah
Enemies/Friends

Encore:
Farewell To Pripyat
Static In The Cities

Richard.

is that three encore tracks :p

oh, i see no sts'ikel, looks a good set though!

[Snapman]

Everyone.

Get the new single The Red The White The Black The Blue tomorrow. The b-sides are fantastic, as usual.

[Richard Lane]

indeed they are. i have already pre-ordered my single. it should be here soon........... cant wait.

R.

[glasskite]

Should i travel down to london to see them on wednesday? I'm in a rather 'i can't be bothered' mood at the moment...

[Neil]

Should i travel down to london to see them on wednesday? I'm in a rather 'i can't be bothered' mood at the moment...


yesssssssssssssss

[Papa Lazarou]

i'm seeing them in portsmouth tomorrow night, my last ever university exam during the day tomorrow and then i shall be steadily drinking my way to the wedgewood rooms.

anyone else pre order the single?

loving the free poster.

[Paul]

What's the album like? Any good?

Like the new single!

[Nancuk]

i'm seeing them in portsmouth tomorrow night, my last ever university exam during the day tomorrow and then i shall be steadily drinking my way to the wedgewood rooms.

anyone else pre order the single?

loving the free poster.

I was there last night. They were amazing. All the graphics and stuff were awsome. They are one heck of a live band.

[Neil]

What's the album like? Any good?

Like the new single!

Isn't out yet but from what i've heard its good

[Richard Lane]

The Lost Riots is out June 7th.

It got 9/10 in NME. so it must be gd.

R.

[Matthew]

got over 3/4 of it....

sounds great :)

[Nancuk]

I think played played basically all of it when I saw them on Tues. It was really amazing. Absolutely beautiful. There were also no lapses in the music. Often I find that some gigs get a bit dull about half way through and then pick up again. But every HOTS song was consistant.

[Matthew]

*cough* what is this i wonder (http://torporific.org/music/H.O.T.S./)

[Richard Lane]

lol............... great. but i hv the song that matters. "The Black Amnesias" what a song.

R.

[Wackyracers]

*cough* what is this i wonder (http://torporific.org/music/H.O.T.S./)
I love you, I really do

[glasskite]

They're really really good.

and i haven't said this of a band on the first listen (bar the one song) for a long time.

Thankies for the link matty ^_^

[Matthew]

Thankies for the link matty ^_^

not a problem Wincy :)

[Matthew]

I love you, I really do
why hello Thomas ;)

[Wackyracers]

why hello Thomas ;)
;) you're dead sexy

[Shinybiscuit]

Does anyone else think they sound like Mansun?

.......

Just me then.
Okay.
-Moving on...

[Matthew]

;) you're dead sexy

i know ;)

[Decades]

I really can't wait for this album to come out.

[Richard Lane]

not too long to wait now..........

[Matthew]

got it all downloaded anyways :) sounds ace, so i'll get a copy.

[Decades]

got it all downloaded anyways :) sounds ace, so i'll get a copy.

The day after it comes out I go to London with the school for the rest of the week. I want a new album for the 5 and a half hour train journey. And I don't want to exhaust the songs before then...

Thus I'm not downloading any of it.

[Matthew]

The day after it comes out I go to London with the school for the rest of the week. I want a new album for the 5 and a half hour train journey. And I don't want to exhaust the songs before then...

Thus I'm not downloading any of it.
sts'ikel (demo) isn't on the album, you should get that instead! :D

[Decades]

sts'ikel (demo) isn't on the album, you should get that instead! :D

Heh, I've heard it! But yes, I will download that from your link of... love. Yes.

[Wackyracers]

I really can't wait for this album to come out.
not many bands can create such raw sounding emotion like they can, it's why I love em

[Paul]

Album arrived today - quirky limited edition packaging.

Fucking yes.

[Richard Lane]

Album arrived today - quirky limited edition packaging.

Fucking yes.

same. the album is amazing. as expected though.

R.

[Decades]

Fucking overwhelming. Bloody fantastic.

[glasskite]

If this ltd ed packaging is as fab as everyone tells me it is, i might just have to go buy a normal copy just so i don't ruin it :/

[Paul]

Aye, it gets ruined as soon as you open it, as there isn't any other way to get into it.

I'm not really going to sell it, so I'm not arsed. Besides, it was £8.99 from HMV's website (after student discount) which is the same as the normal edition.

It has the same tracklisting, so it seems stupid to go for the normal version.

[Papa Lazarou]

it's over a year now since i first saw them in front of a crowd of about 200 people, it's pretty amazing to see their rise.

great packaging on the limited edition although it kind of sticks out in my cd collection much like the radiohead special edition for 'hail to the theif'.

[fiona]

the album is damn good. i really like the first track.
which is the special edition? mine is a black card foldout type thing - is that it?

[Paul]

mine is a black card foldout type thing - is that it?

Yeah, that's the one.

[Nancuk]

My favorite song of theirs is the b-side 'Angels over Kilburn'.
It's lovely.
And Goodhorsehymn. Amazing.

[Larsen B]

Yeah, that's the one.

The black card one is the special edition? ah, well they had a shelf full of them today...anyway mines card.

The album is terrific, even better than i imagined and reading through/hearing the lyrics they are also very very good.

[fiona]

yeah, it didn't have a ltd edition sticker or owt. and i got it from tesco, they don't normally stock the ltd editions. anyways its all good.
what do you mean it gets ruined when you open it? i only had to take the shrinkwrap off.

[glasskite]

Its the one in the card envelope i thought... and not the conventional cd case.

[Neil]

So its in tescos then?
Handy for me, cause I can get it tommorow.

[Paul]

what do you mean it gets ruined when you open it? i only had to take the shrinkwrap off.

Well you have to get into the envelope to get at the CD. The only way to do that is to rip it open. It's got a perforated strip to make it easy to open, but it doesn't really look as nice anymore.

[Larsen B]

Well you have to get into the envelope to get at the CD. The only way to do that is to rip it open. It's got a perforated strip to make it easy to open, but it doesn't really look as nice anymore.

mine didn't, it was an open sleeve, like with a vinyl i haven't ripped anything of mine :confused:

[Megalomaniac]

Can't believe I didn't see this thread before!!

H.O.T.S. are the most gorgeously beautiful band I've heard all year. I find the best time to listen to The Lost Riots are at bedtime on a walkman because it's such relaxing music and such a nice way to wind down. :D

Anyone see them on Jools Holland last night? Nehemiah was just class.

[Paul]

Limited edition = card envelope - about the same dimensions as a DVD case when looking face on.

Standard edition - normal CD case (albeit made from card)

[Larsen B]

Limited edition = card envelope - about the same dimensions as a DVD case when looking face on.

Standard edition - normal CD case (albeit made from card)


Right! so that's that cleared up! :D

[tjej]

Wooo going to see them tonight in Manc! Party hard.

[Zerø]

Just found their album on my PC at work.
'The Black Amnesias' is great... dunno about the rest though.

[Stuey]

They're at Reading fez friday 20th august, anyone want to go? han the badgers away in cyprus so I'll be all lonely!

[Libra]

Seeing them July 26 in Toronto! Can't wait!

[theimpressiveclergyman]

Got The Lost Riots- pissed off my friend by listening to it all the time.

[glasskite]

the next band that is going to bankrupt me from touring. :rolleyes:

[Sarah]

Me too. Can't wait for the gig tonight, mind.

[tjej]

Me too. Can't wait for the gig tonight, mind.

How. Fucking. Good. Were. They? (sorry needed the full stops for emphasis.) UKRAINE! Ahhhh.

[glasskite]

*jealous*

October. I'll be there. Definately.

And tomorrow. I'm seeing them tomorrow. :cool:

[Sarah]

How. Fucking. Good. Were. They? (sorry needed the full stops for emphasis.) UKRAINE! Ahhhh.

Bless 'im. They were outstanding. Better than I expected. Far better. The light affects actually put me into a trance or was that the fact I was exhausted? Dunno. Aceness. They should have played the Venga Bus anyway.

[tjej]

Bless 'im. They were outstanding. Better than I expected. Far better. The light affects actually put me into a trance or was that the fact I was exhausted? Dunno. Aceness. They should have played the Venga Bus anyway.

Oh I know! I personally was appauled at their lack of Hotel California... :rolleyes:

[ali_uno]

had i missed something with the hotel california bit?
i did feel a bit sorry for them as the crowd were being rather boring but then was glad to see it all pick up during nehemiah (my favourite song)
the run back to oxford road train station actually tired me out more than the gig though!
good performance by the guys but was my first time in academy 3 and i was amazed at how tiny it is!!

[tjej]

had i missed something with the hotel california bit?
i did feel a bit sorry for them as the crowd were being rather boring but then was glad to see it all pick up during nehemiah (my favourite song)
the run back to oxford road train station actually tired me out more than the gig though!
good performance by the guys but was my first time in academy 3 and i was amazed at how tiny it is!!

Those bloody stairs! Thankfully the Blackpool train doesn't go till 11.15 :D The singy man was on about hotel california loads last night, some piss take thing. I wouldn't say the crowd were boring, just appreciating the music without throwing themselves around like twats...

[theimpressiveclergyman]

Those bloody stairs! Thankfully the Blackpool train doesn't go till 11.15 :D The singy man was on about hotel california loads last night, some piss take thing. I wouldn't say the crowd were boring, just appreciating the music without throwing themselves around like twats...

Oh, but surely throwing oneself around like a twat is the best part... :rolleyes:

[tjej]

Oh, but surely throwing oneself around like a twat is the best part... :rolleyes:

Especially, when there's a wee 5ft 1 girl stood, just trying to enjoy the music and admire the violin player's pot belly. Twats.

[theimpressiveclergyman]

Especially, when there's a wee 5ft 1 girl stood, just trying to enjoy the music and admire the violin player's pot belly. Twats.

Aw. I have not seen them live, and so have not had the chance to throw myself around/get battered. I take it they were good?

[tjej]

Aw. I have not seen them live, and so have not had the chance to throw myself around/get battered. I take it they were good?

Phenomenal :) If you get the chance, go and see them! Then again most gigs at the hop and grape are good, cause it's about the size of a postage stamp and the bar's easy to get to...

[theimpressiveclergyman]

Phenomenal :) If you get the chance, go and see them! Then again most gigs at the hop and grape are good, cause it's about the size of a postage stamp and the bar's easy to get to...

I will. I doubt I'll get the chance, though. I never get to go to gigs. :'(

[tjej]

I will. I doubt I'll get the chance, though. I never get to go to gigs. :'(

One day my dear. One day. :)

[Keys]

missed them at t... was disappointed grr, but will see them in october :D i think...

[Sarah]

Especially, when there's a wee 5ft 1 girl stood, just trying to enjoy the music and admire the violin player's pot belly. Twats.

EXACTLY why standing at or near the bar in Academy 3 is best. Somewhere to lean & a good view.

[ali_uno]

Those bloody stairs! Thankfully the Blackpool train doesn't go till 11.15 :D The singy man was on about hotel california loads last night, some piss take thing. I wouldn't say the crowd were boring, just appreciating the music without throwing themselves around like twats...
hehe i got that train too back to bolton but my friends insisted we were going to miss it and then we got there about 10 minutes before the bloody train!

hell is for heroes is in hop n grape as well - people definitely will be throwing themselves around for that so i may stay at the back near the bar and appreciate the music :rolleyes:

[tjej]

EXACTLY why standing at or near the bar in Academy 3 is best. Somewhere to lean & a good view.

Ooh good plan

[glasskite]

I went to the gig but the electric ballroom was massive. And i was standing at the back cos i was lazy. And it was way too hot in that place. So i didn't exactly see them lol. Glad i wasn't near the front apparently there were crowd surfers. madness descends.

[ali_uno]

crowd surfing to violins?! :confused:

[tjej]

crowd surfing to violins?! :confused:

I've just figured, you would've been on my train t'other night.

[glasskite]

Yeah crowsurfing. Bunch of nutters.

What a great sing along for Enemies near the end though.

[ali_uno]

the blackpool 1? yes. were you in the loud group?! lol, there were these quite loud people sat near us who had been at the gig....they were only ones from the gig i noticed

[tjej]

the blackpool 1? yes. were you in the loud group?! lol, there were these quite loud people sat near us who had been at the gig....they were only ones from the gig i noticed

If by loud you mean sat next to a pissed guy going on about corpses and how he wanted to marry my mother, then yes that was us :D

[ali_uno]

If by loud you mean sat next to a pissed guy going on about corpses and how he wanted to marry my mother, then yes that was us :D
i cant really remember, i just remember chuckling to some of the things that were being said! i was so exhausted though after running down oxford road and then up all those steps. this guy i was with asked me what i'd thought of the band (as i got to the top of the stairs!) and as i was so breathless all i managed to get out was 'not....as....good.....as....muse' :D

[tjej]

i cant really remember, i just remember chuckling to some of the things that were being said! i was so exhausted though after running down oxford road and then up all those steps. this guy i was with asked me what i'd thought of the band (as i got to the top of the stairs!) and as i was so breathless all i managed to get out was 'not....as....good.....as....muse' :D

Ah who knows! Having said that curly joe is a funny funny guy.. not as good as muse? No, far better my dear, far better.

[theimpressiveclergyman]

Ah who knows! Having said that curly joe is a funny funny guy.. not as good as muse? No, far better my dear, far better.

Curly Joe? :confused:
It all depends what you're looking for in a band...

[tjej]

Curly Joe? :confused:
It all depends what you're looking for in a band...

My friend. Well, hots are exactly what i'm after i think, pity the singer can't sing for toffee though.

[theimpressiveclergyman]

My friend. Well, hots are exactly what i'm after i think, pity the singer can't sing for toffee though.

Ah... I heard his voice called "the ultimate acquired taste." Which I would agree with, if I hadn't heard Chikinki..

[glasskite]

Ah... I heard his voice called "the ultimate acquired taste." Which I would agree with, if I hadn't heard Chikinki..
If thats slander against chikinki i may have to come and lynch you. :p

[theimpressiveclergyman]

If thats slander against chikinki i may have to come and lynch you. :p

Slander? Chikinki? Never! :eek: The album is actually rather excellent. I just have to admit that his voice might put some people off. *coughGarycough* :LOL:

[theimpressiveclergyman]

Anyway, the concert. Did they play Black Dollar Bills? Or Sts'ikel? (unlikely..)

[tjej]

Anyway, the concert. Did they play Black Dollar Bills? Or Sts'ikel? (unlikely..)

I'm pretty sure they did black dollar bills, not too sure about t'other though. I tend not to pay attention to what bands play for some reason :o

[glasskite]

they definately played black dollar bills in london. don't think they did the other one. he played a new song that was really nice though.

[tjej]

they definately played black dollar bills in london. don't think they did the other one. he played a new song that was really nice though.

Yeah they did a new one in Manc too which was pretty, I don't think it had a name, but if it did, I don't remember it.

[Agitated]

*cough* what is this i wonder (http://torporific.org/music/H.O.T.S./)
*bums* x xx x

[glasskite]

Yeah they did a new one in Manc too which was pretty, I don't think it had a name, but if it did, I don't remember it.
Its down as 'drinkers' on the set list i think.

[Decades]

Yeah they did a new one in Manc too which was pretty, I don't think it had a name, but if it did, I don't remember it.

It's called Bonfire I think. Not that I was there, I've just been informed so, yep..

[MONKEH]

saw them at oxegen, very very good. love the red the white the blue, and there was another song i recgonized but couldn't remember the name of...
something cool about riffing with a violin.

[tjej]

It's called Bonfire I think. Not that I was there, I've just been informed so, yep..

Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat's the one! You're a legend.

[theimpressiveclergyman]

saw them at oxegen, very very good. love the red the white the blue, and there was another song i recgonized but couldn't remember the name of...
something cool about riffing with a violin.

*freezes* They were at Oxegen? AAARRRGH!! :'(

[MONKEH]

*freezes* They were at Oxegen? AAARRRGH!! :'(
um...no they weren't....*looks shifty*

[theimpressiveclergyman]

um...no they weren't....*looks shifty*

*curls up into foetal position, muttering something like: "It's not fair... It's just not fair..."*

[Decades]

Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat's the one! You're a legend.

It was apparently quite nice, I'll be seeing them in October hopefully. And I'm not a legend! :ohmy:

[Matthew]

*bums* x xx x

O_O.... again?

[tjej]

It was apparently quite nice, I'll be seeing them in October hopefully. And I'm not a legend! :ohmy:

It was! Ah ok, maybe not a legend yet... One day my dear boy, one day.

[Ollie of Symmetry]

Who else thinks Hope of the States are great :happy:

there classic in my opinion there they have been the best new band in years in my opinion :cool:

also they have just named a whole new tour of the Uk for this October, i have already got ticks for 2 shows to make it 4 hope of the states gigs this year :D

[Matthew]

they already have other threads :) this'll be closed soon

please use search next time guv'

[glasskite]

Ollie..... should have known it was you who'd start one.... :rolleyes:

[Matthew]

Ollie..... should have known it was you who'd start one.... :rolleyes:

y'huh typical

[Ollie of Symmetry]

Ollie..... should have known it was you who'd start one.... :rolleyes:

hehe lol :D

well at least i got a good poll started :)

[Matthew]

where? oh, you mean this pile o'shite

[Ollie of Symmetry]

where? oh, you mean this pile o'shite


rrrr at the top of the page :rolleyes:

lookity

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/InMuseWorld/111111.jpg

[Matthew]

gawd, you need firefox.

[Matthew]

also, are you on Windows ME?

[Ollie of Symmetry]

also, are you on Windows ME?

whats ''Windows ME'' ?

[Matthew]

Milennium Edition.

[Ollie of Symmetry]

Milennium Edition.


oh no its just windows 98, but i am gettin XP (i think its called :p ) like in a week or summit like that...

[Matthew]

ah, they both look the same to me, it's just that show desktop thingy i've only ever seen on ME before and it looks just like this.

as for using internet explorer, you seriously need to get firefox instead.

[Ollie of Symmetry]

ah, they both look the same to me, it's just that show desktop thingy i've only ever seen on ME before and it looks just like this.

as for using internet explorer, you seriously need to get firefox instead.

wats firefox?

[Matthew]

thisis firefox (http://board.muse.mu/showthread.php?t=5307&page=1&highlight=firefox)

[Hoppipolla]

^_^

I love these so damn much and I can't resist buying the beautifully packaged limited edition CD tomorrow. 21.95 for a bundle of joy is well worth it.

I've got "Enemies/Friends", "Nehemiah" "Red, White Black, Blue (cant remember exact name)" and "66 Sleepers to Summer"

All great.

[glasskite]

21.95?? I got mine for 8.99

[theimpressiveclergyman]

21.95?? I got mine for 8.99

I think I did too, in London- Ireland really gets ripped off. :indiffere

[musefreak]

saw "the red, the white, the black, the blue" on tv last week and jsut thought it was absolutely brilliant!!!

i went to listen to the album yesterday and it's really really amazing!!!! it's quite one of the best albums i've listened to it the last months, but i couldn't buy it :'( :'( no damn money!!!! :'(

i hope they'll come around touring here soon!!!
after what i've read in this thread, they seem to be quality playing live...

[Matthew]

21.95?? I got mine for 8.99
€ maybe?

still expensive

[glasskite]

No i knew it was euros, but its still so much more than what we pay over here.

[Ollie of Symmetry]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/InMuseWorld/untitled.jpg


oh wow just look what i could on the xfm webiste :D

hope of the states actually got comparisoned to Muse :cool:

im pretty plsed with that to be honest :D

[Pictures of you WILLY]

I'm really getting into this band, at last someone who is not jumping on the bandwagon, i think this band is going to be fucking ginormous :)

[Nancuk]

I saw them do a pub gig last night in Chichester. T'was awsome, but v.hot. Sam was off his face. Yay.

[theimpressiveclergyman]

No i knew it was euros, but its still so much more than what we pay over here.
Yeah... This is THE rip-off nation. :indiff:

[Matthew]

oh wow just look what i could on the xfm webiste :D

hope of the states actually got comparisoned to Muse :cool:

im pretty plsed with that to be honest :D

comparisons suck, especially when Muse is involved.

[glasskite]

People only make comparisons because they're being bloody lazy journalists and can't be bothered to describe what something sounds like properly.

[Hoppipolla]

comparisons suck, especially when Muse is involved.

Glad I'm not the only one thinking that.

Plus it's all lies. Samuel sounds absolutely nothing like Thom Yorke... they're much more talented at pulling songs together than Muse and... eugh. Why compare? Why.

[Hoppipolla]

HOTS also have much better album case designs. *nods*

[Half Life]

People only make comparisons because they're being bloody lazy journalists and can't be bothered to describe what something sounds like properly.

Absolutely right.

My bloke and I saw HOTS at V in Stafford this year - they were excellent, the sound system was not...

[Paul]

People only make comparisons because they're being bloody lazy journalists and can't be bothered to describe what something sounds like properly.

Nah they make comparisons because people are more likely to buy the music.

Not everyone can visualise (audioalise??) a description in their heads, but if you are told a band sounds a bit like Radiohead, Muse etc, you get an idea.

If I was told a band sounds like a cross between Radiohead and Muse I'd immediately think "Muse, yes I like, Radiohead, yes I like - I'll probably like this band then"

Comparisons are one of the best ways of describing things. From reading that review, it looks like they've described much of their sound without the comparisons - comparing them with Muse and Radiohead simply backs up their points.

[Paul]

Samuel sounds absolutely nothing like Thom Yorke... they're much more talented at pulling songs together than Muse and... eugh. Why compare? Why.

The review didn't say that he sounded like Thom Yorke. It said that they have the similar "despondant power". Essentially they can both make themselves sound miserable.

I would say in this case that the comparison with Muse is pretty far fetched, but all of the best music reviewers use comparisons - if anything it helps people stretch their boundaries a bit and explore new bands.

[Hoppipolla]

The review didn't say that he sounded like Thom Yorke. It said that they have the similar "despondant power". Essentially they can both make themselves sound miserable.

I would say in this case that the comparison with Muse is pretty far fetched, but all of the best music reviewers use comparisons - if anything it helps people stretch their boundaries a bit and explore new bands.

It was still wrong.

I couldn't care less if other peoples opinions are broadening... but at least if they didn't read the reviews - they'd buy the album with no false expectations.

I'd say tonnes of Radiohead and Muse fans would dislike this band...

[ummagumma]

will be seeing them next month, im really looking forward to it!

I would say that some Radiohead and Muse fans would love them, the scale of their songs is similar to the likes of those bands, i spose they are very different but also very similar in different respects.... they are just really good :D

[Hoppipolla]

I'd much rather listen to radiohead and hope of the states right now. Haven't wanted muse in months. Need some new stuff. I loved them too much for too long, they were bound to ware out.
Maybe radiohead AND muse fans would - just Muse fans - I don't doubt that tonnes wouldn't, anyway - not saying some wouldn't...

[fairy_lights]

I'm so glad i found this thread.I absolutely love HOTS!I bought the album day of release and surprisingly found it quite hard to get into,i liked it alright but wasnt bowled over so gave it to my brother as he seemed to enjoy it from the off.Two weeks after i borrowed it to listen to at work and fell in love with it but my brother refused to give it back so i had to buy it again.Saw them at V this year,was right at the front for them,singing my little heart out,they were phenomenal.Going to see them at Birmingham Academy in a couple of weeks,cant wait.Ditched a holiday with my rents so that il be able to see them.Definitely one of the best albums out this year :)

[Ullalume]

Now, this band would sound a whole lot better if the singer could sing. The music is rather tasty but his voice really narks me off after a while. All in all though, they are quite nifty.

[Wackyracers]

Now, this band would sound a whole lot better if the singer could sing. The music is rather tasty but his voice really narks me off after a while. All in all though, they are quite nifty.
it's good because it's raw. A raw voice can seem more meaningful sometimes. Also his tone suits the music.

[Hoppipolla]

The band would be less interesting without him.

[Bexie]

No it wouldnt. Their instrumental pieces rock :happy:

[Hoppipolla]

No it wouldnt. Their instrumental pieces rock :happy:
Yes, yes they do. But I wouldn't like to hear a different voice to songs that require vocals, and personally - I like hearing vocals in somewhere on albums that I buy!

[abi]

I should be getting tickets for November 11th, that's if I find somebody to go with :unsure:

[Hoppipolla]

mhm! I couldn't find anyone, so I couldn't go.

[Paul]

Newcastle gig tonight...anyone going?

It's in the tiny Global Cafe in the student union so it will be rather intimate.

Also, if we are one of the first 50 to arrive, we get a free CD with B-sides etc. Judging by the number of tickets left earlier today, I reckon we'll get about 3 or 4 CDs each.

[Paul]

I couldn't care less if other peoples opinions are broadening... but at least if they didn't read the reviews - they'd buy the album with no false expectations.

Yeah but without the reviews there would be no publicity and NOBODY would buy the album. There is no way that a band can sell a decent amount of records purely from word of mouth - there has to be some sort of publicity to get the ball rolling on the national scale.

[Pajoon]

Not the Newcastle gig, but I'm seeing them on the Gonzo tour tomorrow. If they can pull it off live it should be good.

[fiona]

Newcastle gig tonight...anyone going?

It's in the tiny Global Cafe in the student union so it will be rather intimate.

Also, if we are one of the first 50 to arrive, we get a free CD with B-sides etc. Judging by the number of tickets left earlier today, I reckon we'll get about 3 or 4 CDs each.
ooh are they doing that at each gig?

seeing them in two days. yay. :D

[Keys]

yey :happy: just came back from the gig... ears are ringing tho which is a pain, got some good pics, will post them later. they were surprisingly brill :happy: shame there was a tall twat standing next to me... he smelt funny and kept talking to me the weirdo :unsure:

[Paul]

yey :happy: just came back from the gig... ears are ringing tho which is a pain, got some good pics, will post them later. they were surprisingly brill :happy: shame there was a tall twat standing next to me... he smelt funny and kept talking to me the weirdo :unsure:

Aye it was good. I only talked to you to make you look popular, as the people behind were pointing and laughing becuase you looked the type who doesn't have any friends.

My right ear is still ringing though, it's not usually this bad, even at the union.

[Keys]

Aye it was good. I only talked to you to make you look popular, as the people behind were pointing and laughing becuase you looked the type who doesn't have any friends.

My right ear is still ringing though, it's not usually this bad, even at the union.

:LOL: fair play

yeah mines not rang yet, well my left one anyways, it just feels as tho its popped... but since last night grr... is quite annoying, id prefer ringing

[Keys]

here are some pics... enjoy :happy:

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[fiona]

:D just got back from the bristol gig - it was brilliant! one of the best gigs i have been to. sadly they didn't have any of the mysterious free cds but they made up for it with the quality of the music and performance.

the new material sounds excellent too. :D

[Keys]

:D just got back from the bristol gig - it was brilliant! one of the best gigs i have been to. sadly they didn't have any of the mysterious free cds but they made up for it with the quality of the music and performance.

the new material sounds excellent too. :D

:happy: cool.... think they played a few new songs as well at the newcastle gig, and or bsides... wasnt listening :unsure:

were you in the first 50 in the queue? cos you had to sign up to some mailing list and they gave the cds there

[fiona]

:happy: cool.... think they played a few new songs as well at the newcastle gig, and or bsides... wasnt listening :unsure:

were you in the first 50 in the queue? cos you had to sign up to some mailing list and they gave the cds there
yeah we got 4 new songs, in an hour long set. plus one verse of "what katie did" to take the piss out of the libertines - he also ripped it out of razorlight :LOL: .
i was one of the first in, we asked about the cds but they didnt have any for this gig. they said to write our email addresses in this book in case they got some - yeah right! but im not bothered. im just happy because it was such a great gig.
the supports Dead 60s and The Open were brilliant too - been a while since I went to a gig with such decent supports. :D

[Hoppipolla]

Yeah but without the reviews there would be no publicity and NOBODY would buy the album. There is no way that a band can sell a decent amount of records purely from word of mouth - there has to be some sort of publicity to get the ball rolling on the national scale.

Singles, Radio and TV airplay.

[Paul]

Singles, Radio and TV airplay.

Singles, radio and TV airplay ARE all forms of publicity!!

[glasskite]

Was underwhelmed the other night at the Astoria. I don't know what happened. I think I was standing too far away...

[Hoppipolla]

Singles, radio and TV airplay ARE all forms of publicity!!

Yes, that's what I was saying.

Remember, I don't dislike PUBLICITY. Remember how this started, before you're going to comment. :indiff:

[convercide]

Anyone seeing them on Saturday night in Manchester? I'll be there.... Their album is outstanding. Not been this excited about a gig since I last saw erm... Muse.

[Hoppipolla]

Anyone seeing them on Saturday night in Manchester? I'll be there.... Their album is outstanding. Not been this excited about a gig since I last saw erm... Muse.
I thought muse were a great live band. But I'd trade H O T S any day.

[Sarah]

Mmm. Just a few hours until the gig.

[Hoppipolla]

Mmm. Just a few hours until the gig.
When? and who's supporting?

[Sarah]

Manchester. Er. I think it's the Open. Don't know &, frankly, not that arsed who it is.

[Keys]

Manchester. Er. I think it's the Open. Don't know &, frankly, not that arsed who it is.

the open and upper rooms if its going to be the same as in newcastle, upper room were shite lol, but the open were pretty good :D

[Ollie of Symmetry]

Whay i have just come back from the gig at carling academy birmingham :D

it was tottaly amazin and the crowd really got into it, like jumpin up and down like and 1 crowd surfer :cool:

which is actually really amazin for hope of the states as usually the crowd are static for the whole thing.

i went to see them in nottingham on monday, but i puked up just b4 the hots came on and a bouncer chucked me out for it :( , and proper escorted me off the site, just for pukin up, and i was at the front so it didnt go near anybody, i just had like a really weird dizzy spell, and thought i was gonna fait but ended up pukin, not to good really.....

but tonight was amazin anyways :happy:

the support act was the open, who were crap :p

[Hoppipolla]

Oh. You caught up on my mistake. I meant where, not when.

I can only wait, now. Til they pay another visit to Ireland.

[Ollie of Symmetry]

I also met the band tonight aswell, me and my mate got the train in to brum, but we coudltn fidn the venue, so we were jsut wonderin around like ya do, and then we bump into Sam and the Violin dude from the Hots :happy:

so we said hello and stuff and got directions :p

[glasskite]

I swear all the retards come form leicester. I do have my reasons for thinking this. All the stupidest people i've ever come across seem to be from there or that general area.

Do you people not think of finding out where a place is before you travel to it?

And I'm actually looking forward to them tomorrow. Even if I think they're gonna be dire cos its in a large venue. I'll still have fun with my mate.

[Ollie of Symmetry]

I swear all the retards come form leicester. I do have my reasons for thinking this. All the stupidest people i've ever come across seem to be from there or that general area.

Do you people not think of finding out where a place is before you travel to it?

And I'm actually looking forward to them tomorrow. Even if I think they're gonna be dire cos its in a large venue. I'll still have fun with my mate.

:rolleyes:

guess who.

shut the fuk up twat!

[glasskite]

I could say the same to you. But i won't, cos I'm not that immature.

and you don't seem to have noticed, but you CAN say FUCK on this forum... or are you one of those who takes offence and has to use the work "fuk"?

[tjej]

Whay i have just come back from the gig at carling academy birmingham :D

it was tottaly amazin and the crowd really got into it, like jumpin up and down like and 1 crowd surfer :cool:

which is actually really amazin for hope of the states as usually the crowd are static for the whole thing.

i went to see them in nottingham on monday, but i puked up just b4 the hots came on and a bouncer chucked me out for it :( , and proper escorted me off the site, just for pukin up, and i was at the front so it didnt go near anybody, i just had like a really weird dizzy spell, and thought i was gonna fait but ended up pukin, not to good really.....

but tonight was amazin anyways :happy:

the support act was the open, who were crap :p


i went to that they were fucking anazing i was at the back though

[Hoppipolla]

:rolleyes:

guess who.

shut the fuk up twat!
That made no sense to me, whatsoever.

[Gem]

:rolleyes:

guess who.

shut the fuk up twat!
Play nice children.

[Hoppipolla]

Play nice children.
Musers don't do nice. :rolleyes:

[Ollie of Symmetry]

That made no sense to me, whatsoever.

Oh it wouldnt its just because wincy makes a livin out of tryin to slag me off, like he never posts on the muse pages, just like the other bands thread and love boat like what is the point of that :rolleyes:

[James]

Oh it wouldnt its just because wincy makes a livin out of tryin to slag me off, like he never posts on the muse pages, just like the other bands thread and love boat like what is the point of that :rolleyes:
No actually.
1. He is actually a SHE.
2. Posts plenty in non Muse, but i don't suppose you venture from here and main muse.
3. Listen to Gem. She says play nice. Now PLEASE play nice.

[Ollie of Symmetry]

No actually.
1. He is actually a SHE.
2. Posts plenty in non Muse, but i don't suppose you venture from here and main muse.
3. Listen to Gem. She says play nice. Now PLEASE play nice.

she started it :mad:

:LOL:

:)

[Gem]

Now, you're just being a cheeky shit, so shut up.

[Sarah]

Oh it wouldnt its just because wincy makes a livin out of tryin to slag me off, like he never posts on the muse pages, just like the other bands thread and love boat like what is the point of that :rolleyes:

She REAKLLY gives a shit about you!
HAHHAHHA.
Actually.
WHo the fuck a5r4e you?

[Ollie of Symmetry]

She REAKLLY gives a shit about you!
HAHHAHHA.
Actually.
WHo the fuck a5r4e you?

I'm your Farther!

[Gem]

She REAKLLY gives a shit about you!
HAHHAHHA.
Actually.
WHo the fuck a5r4e you?
Haha... Have you two gone at got drunk?

Was the show good? :( Gutted I missed it.

[Sarah]

I'm your Farther!

Witty!!

[Sarah]

Haha... Have you two gone at got drunk?

Was the show good? :( Gutted I missed it.

Yes, we slightly did get a bit tipsy.. MASSIVELY ACE show as well. Even though I can't remember much...

[Gem]

Right.
Ollie I ban you from talking or making comments to Sarah and/or Wincy.
Sarah and/or Wincy I ban you from talking or making comments to Ollie.

Not one more word to each other in this threads from NOW.

[Hoppipolla]

Right.
Ollie I ban you from talking or making comments to Sarah and/or Wincy.
Sarah and/or Wincy I ban you from talking or making comments to Ollie.

Not one more word to each other in this threads from NOW.

You should of included your own name in there, so you'd also not have to tolerate his shit.

[glasskite]

So yeah, Gem, shame you couldn't go to the gig in the end, twas fun.

[Sarah]

It was! Most excellent drunken fun.

[Gem]

So yeah, Gem, shame you couldn't go to the gig in the end, twas fun.
It was, I was rather gutted last night. I was rather gutted tonight too as they played Leeds cockpit. :(

I'm gonna nuke my work tomorrow.

Glad you two enjoyed it though!

[lana]

anyone else lovin these guys?

[Ollie of Symmetry]

anyone else lovin these guys?

Yea there good i have seen em a couple of times this year and met them at both gigs which is kinda cool, though i aint really listened to em in a month or so, but yea there a very good band ;)

[Decades]

Yeah they're ace, but there's already a thread.

[lana]

yeah got to meet sam after the liverpool gonzo gig, nice lad. Really like the album, shame i didnt get one of those limited edition cd's they were givin out on tour.....new tracks n codes to unlock bits of their website apparently... :'(
looking forward to em touring again

[lana]

Yeah they're ace, but there's already a thread.

was too lazy to look through all the pages for it...mm...oops

[Ollie of Symmetry]

yeah got to meet sam after the liverpool gonzo gig, nice lad. Really like the album, shame i didnt get one of those limited edition cd's they were givin out on tour.....new tracks n codes to unlock bits of their website apparently... :'(
looking forward to em touring again


yea i didnt get one of the cds either they wernt even handin them out wen they said they would be :mad:

even though they wernt new songs, just b sides ;)

[Tangerine]

I bought their album 'The Lost Riots' recently and I quite enjoy it. The album art inside is quite interesting. I don't really know much about them though...they seem to have a fascination with human anatomy?

[Beady eyes]

yeah got to meet sam after the liverpool gonzo gig, nice lad. Really like the album, shame i didnt get one of those limited edition cd's they were givin out on tour.....new tracks n codes to unlock bits of their website apparently... :'(
looking forward to em touring again

it would be good if they toured again soon, i missed them wen they played on october :'(

[Hoppipolla]

was too lazy to look through all the pages for it...mm...oops

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[Ollie of Symmetry]

it would be good if they toured again soon, i missed them wen they played on october :'(

nah they need to get on with the next album now, the promotion tours for the lost riots started a couple of years ago so people had heard all the songs then, but then obviosuley with the kinda tragic incident :stunned: everything got postponed for like a year... but yea they certanly need to get some new material out..

some of the new songs they played in October seemed good, one was really amazin actually and really up beat which was kind of a shock for the hots, one was kinda average though the average new is called red stars, black stars i think..

[Beady eyes]

nah they need to get on with the next album now, the promotion tours for the lost riots started a couple of years ago so people had heard all the songs then, but then obviosuley with the kinda tragic incident :stunned: everything got postponed for like a year... but yea they certanly need to get some new material out..

some of the new songs they played in October seemed good, one was really amazin actually and really up beat which was kind of a shock for the hots, one was kinda average though the average new is called red stars, black stars i think..
oh, i thought their album only came out recently, and there was an incident??? :confused: look forward to a new album tho :D

[Ollie of Symmetry]

oh, i thought their album only came out recently, and there was an incident??? :confused: look forward to a new album tho :D

yes there album was due to be released like early 2003ish i think, but then one of there guitarists Jimmi commited suicide :stunned:, so all plans for the album got cancled for about a year, and they had released 2 singles already b4 the incident like, so they were begginin to get heard of a long tiem ago like, and they had already done a big tour promoting the 2 singles etc..

[Diaji]

I love 'The Red The White The Black The Blue', and 'The Black Amnesias'

The band was introduced to me a couple of days ago by a mate who thought they were better than Muse. He's clearly deluded, but they are excellent nonetheless.

[ummagumma]

I love 'The Red The White The Black The Blue', and 'The Black Amnesias'

The band was introduced to me a couple of days ago by a mate who thought they were better than Muse. He's clearly deluded, but they are excellent nonetheless.
hmm, i have to say that i prefer HOTS over muse, but they are both great, and amazing live!

[Sarah]

I think that HOTS are trully amazing live but only [it seems] in intimate venues. It saddens me that they could become inferior to the way they were due to people realising they are amazing thus meaning bigger venues thus meaning no where near as intimate or amazing live. Kind of a shot in the foot. I hope I am not right.

Whereas Muse will probably get better live as it will require more grandeur as more people come along as they have bigger venues & more money to spend on balloons or confetti & making every minute as pompous as the next.

Two extremes, really.

[Paul]

I think that HOTS are trully amazing live but only [it seems] in intimate venues. It saddens me that they could become inferior to the way they were due to people realising they are amazing thus meaning bigger venues thus meaning no where near as intimate or amazing live. Kind of a shot in the foot. I hope I am not right.

Whereas Muse will probably get better live as it will require more grandeur as more people come along as they have bigger venues & more money to spend on balloons or confetti & making every minute as pompous as the next.

Two extremes, really.

You know, that's pretty much dead on the centre of the nail's head.

The only problem was that HOTS's main left speaker was getting intimate with my ear for the entire gig and left me with a 3 day headache.

I agree though, they'd have to change their style remarkably to suit a larger venue.

[Sarah]

I have never had a problem with standing next to a speaker. Having said that. Standing next to a speaker at an intimate gig for a post rock band would be pretty stupid. Hehe.

[BlackoutMatt]

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hope the link still works, I can re-up though...

[Glenn Stefani]

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hope the link still works, I can re-up though...

Thank you! ;)

Heard the new song on radio 1 a bit earlier and think it might take a couple more listens to get me 'ead round it.

Can't wait for the album.

[BlackoutMatt]

it's great stuff indeed...and apparently, the album's even better...


*excited*

[Wowee Zowee]

Who? never heard of them.

[Sarah]

You're a funny man.

[Wowee Zowee]

Well I was being serious..

[Sarah]

I know that now.

[Bexie]

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You're a legend! :D. Thank you!

[Paul]

Some new tour dates released today - ordered a few tickets in for the Newcastle date. April 22nd.

[Keys]

have they got better or worse?

[Sarah]

HOTS? Worse. But it's just one song..

[Paul]

HOTS? Worse. But it's just one song..

Yeah the new song didn't really do much for me when I heard it. I'll give it time though as there are some of their other tracks that were slow burners for me.

[Paul]

Plus the other good point is that the Carling Academy 2 at Newcastle is even smaller than Newcastle uni where I last saw them. I think it only holds 400 or so people - Mew were excellent there.

[Sarah]

Yeah, HOTS are playing the Late Room here which must be 200 max. so that should be fun.

[Keys]

Plus the other good point is that the Carling Academy 2 at Newcastle is even smaller than Newcastle uni where I last saw them. I think it only holds 400 or so people - Mew were excellent there.
yeah that venue is awesome, saw athlete there and the place is tiny, the bar is right next to the front too :happy:

[Sarah]

You'd need a bar to be close if you went to see Athlete!

Haha. I make myself laugh.

[Keys]

You'd need a bar to be close if you went to see Athlete!

Haha. I make myself laugh.
Youre a funny one lol

[Mozza]

Loving the new song

[saphene]

I have tickets to see them in a pub in Bristol in April. Can't wait! :D

[Max]

I heard Blood Meridian once on Lamacq Live and loved it. I want the second album NOW (or Blood Meridian because I can't find it anywhere...please...).

[tjej]

Just sin em in the place where they have Plastic Surgery. It was a bit good like :D

Aside from this girl infront of me who had no rhythym and looked like she should've been in the Pipettes but was far too ugly.

[Sarah]

Yeah, I know her. She's nice.

It was actually pretty shit that night.

[Hoppipolla]

HOTS? Worse. But it's just one song..

Not much worse. I prefer it to the first single of the lost riots, to be honest. They certainly haven't completely changed or anything.

Can't wait for the new album. And for them to play in ireland again, now that it'd be legal for me to go and what not.

[Happy Camper]

Yeah this band is very good indeed, Ive been trying to buy their album for a while now but it never seems to be in the shops.

[FuZion]

Sing It Out is a pretty good track, just heard it on M2. Check it out!

[Keys]

theres a thread on them. somewhere. Ive not really heard any of their new stuff.. is it better?