Citizen Erased

[Broken Inside]

See this link here. (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Bd8-zHS14#9VJqqZtSyf0)

This debate is what I am currently doing on YouTube. I (forgiveninasong on YouTube) don't think that there are ANY strings on Citizen Erased, mainly because of an interview that Dom did with Laut Magazine (here (http://www.musewiki.org/We_feel_sorry_for_bands_being_hyped_%2820031002_La ut_article%29)), in which he says that they tried using strings on OoS, but then didn't use any of them.

Now, in the CD Inlay for OoS, it does mention strings, but I had previously thought that this only meant on 'Megalomania'. This dude on YouTube seems convinced that there are strings on CE, but I for the life of me cannot hear where.

I've searched all over MuseWiki to see if I can have this answered, but no, I can't!

As soon as this is answered, this could possibly be merged with the Citizen Erased thread, but I felt a new thread was required for QUICK ANSWER ENHANCEMENT!!!!

Anyone shed light on this subject, that will no doubt bother me for years unless I have it answered RIGHT NOW!!! :mad::mad::mad:

Thank you so much, Musefans! And honestly, I'm not as n00by as I sound in this post...honest :$:$ I just really really FAIL TO HEAR STRINGS!!

[Niall]

There are apparently, but they're near silent if they did include them on the mix. Someone on muselive ripped the string from the youtube video and remixed the track with them.

CoD and Hoodoo showed Muse + strings is a very good thing. Shame they didn't release any of the tracks with strings on in the end. Same happened with AP. They recorded the strings but didn't use them. Perhaps someday we'll get a load of stringy Muse songs from the vaults.

[Broken Inside]

There are apparently, but they're near silent if they did include them on the mix. Someone on muselive ripped the string from the youtube video and remixed the track with them.

CoD and Hoodoo showed Muse + strings is a very good thing. Shame they didn't release any of the tracks with strings on in the end. Same happened with AP. They recorded the strings but didn't use them. Perhaps someday we'll get a load of stringy Muse songs from the vaults.
There is a 'synthy'-type noise, which is what I think this guy on YouTube is referring to as being the strings. But I really really do think that it is some sort of synth/keyboard affair, as opposed to a strings-type thing.

What songs on OoS have strings, then? Apart from the "improvised cello" on Megalomania?

I really really don't think there are, but I need the back up of the Muse g33ks so I can burn this YouTuber to HELL! :stunned:

I am so mean and superior....

[garseys]

There is a 'synthy'-type noise, which is what I think this guy on YouTube is referring to as being the strings. But I really really do think that it is some sort of synth/keyboard affair, as opposed to a strings-type thing.


it is a keyboard affair,they sound like organ type sounds playing the musical score that was originally for the strings

and if they are in the mix theyre barely audible(unlike other muse songs with strings)

[*OoS*]

Well I never knew that.

But it would've sounded amazing lol look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Bd8-zHS14&feature=related

[Carrotie]

wow, yeah it would have been amazing :happy:

[Static Shadows]

I think this should have been in it :yesey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgblNYYJ-E4&NR=1

:LOL:

[Nimpo46]

isn't it in the background? just barely audible?

or why was it left out if it was?

[Muttley]

The use of violins in rock music has become so cliché in the past decade so I'm glad they didn't

[LucasC813]

I guess that would have been cool, but I probably would have rather had it how it is now. I really don't think they needed to change what is, in my opinion, the best song on the best album by the best band :p

[fr0zen]

isn't it in the background? just barely audible?

or why was it left out if it was?

No one is credited for strings on the booklet....and I never hear it...

[lily318]

It would have been good, but I still love CE just as it is.

Maybe they should have included some of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgblNYYJ-E4&feature=related :LOL:

[jonnno]

No they left out the strings on the album, instead using a synth organ.

[E-Mused]

would've been interesting to hear with strings, maybe they could do it a TCT. But I quite like the (is it a synth organ?) sounds where it goes into micro cuts cos it's unique.

[Broken Inside]

*le sigh* I had this arguement with the person on YouTube about this aaaaages ago! The strings are NOT on the album at ALL. It's a synth organ. This is what you can hear in the background, and this is what they now use live, as Morgan plays it. Sounds pretty awesome, though.

[jonnno]

would've been interesting to hear with strings, maybe they could do it a TCT. But I quite like the (is it a synth organ?) sounds where it goes into micro cuts cos it's unique.

What you're thinking about is the noises at the end and during the last piano verse right? That'd just be synth filters being adjusted with a delay over the top. The synth organ is the sound that people think are strings during the verses and choruses.

[Euler]

I loved the concert!, and the setlist was great! haha thanks Hans Hullabaloo for post (after two years...)

[HarmonyLover]

Just want to say that this is the most amazing song that Muse ever did. Deep music and deep lyrics. Shows everyone what Muse is all about.

[Burning_October]

I personally think that this synth organ is one of the best parts of the song. Although the solo beats almost anything the band has ever put to tape.

[Finlay]

Wow yeah! Would have been amazing, but you cannot criticize Citizen Erased for anything:)
If Muse chose not to put them in, then it wasn't meant to be! Btw is Dom going '1 2 3 4' really quietly?

Although the solo beats almost anything the band has ever put to tape.

I know right? That solo makes me shiver every time :yesey:

[Burning_October]

I know right? That solo makes me shiver every time :yesey:

Yeah, it was the first solo where I just went "woah, thats awesome". I think that its cool how its so amazing even though its really just random guitar noises set against bass and organ.:D

[HarmonyLover]

Yeah, it was the first solo where I just went "woah, thats awesome". I think that its cool how its so amazing even though its really just random guitar noises set against bass and organ.:D

Random guitar noises? WTF did you get that from. It's one of Matt's best solos.

[Burning_October]

^ Well, there isnt really any melody or flow or anything to it, and I thought I read somewhere where it was just effects laden random guitar noises. I guess that part was wrong. Still, its my favourite solo by the band, and one of my favourites ever.

[HarmonyLover]

^ Well, there isnt really any melody or flow or anything to it, and I thought I read somewhere where it was just effects laden random guitar noises. I guess that part was wrong. Still, its my favourite solo by the band, and one of my favourites ever.

Of course he improvises during live shows, but everything on the record is totally planned out like a military invasion. :p

BTW is this solo where Matt sounds most like Johny Greenwood?

[Foozles]

This is another appreciation thread, but this one's for Citizen Erased (I annoy myself with posts and threads). Anyways, show everyone your admiration for Citizen Erased here.

My favorite part is the intro riff with the harmonics. I wish I knew how to make my distortion sound like that!:mad:

[Burning_October]

Appreciation Threads are the new "OMG I HAVE THE TRACKLISTING FOR THE NEW ALBUM" threads:LOL:.

Anyway, this ones slightly overrated in my opinion, but still great. My favourite moment is in the bridge where the guitar and bass play the riff at the same time. Immense. Also, the solo is probably one of the best that Matt's done, if not THE best (though Sunburn may be).

[hyper_chondriac_muser]

Lol I agree with the tracklisiting comment ^! But we're TRES bored waiting for the new album innit :p

I couldn't overrate this song if I tried, it's simply fucking amazing! A masterpiece, a classic, an EPIC! Everything!! lol. I Love teh monkeys out of it! :D :happy:

[Raining_Muses]

I luffs this song too! I think I need to take a break of it though, because suddenly the amazing parts have gotten a lot softer. I don't know if it's the volume or overthinking it, but something happened. Oh well, go back to obsessing over New Born for awhile. :LOL:

But yes, we are bored. We have NOTHING to talk about here. :rolleyes:

[Clunge]

Overrated.

[Obi]

Overrated.

No it's not.

New Born however is.





I'm looking for an argument here. :p


But srsly...
Their best song. If they stop playing it completely I shall cry.

[Foozles]

[QUOTE=Obi;5723681]No it's not.

New Born however is.





I'm looking for an argument here. :p
QUOTE]

I'll help! I think New Born is a great song, but it's too overrated.

[Rafer]

Overrated.

I agree.

The beginning of this song just seems really sloppy to me, can't really explain it, might have something to do with the drums. Nevertheless, the middle to end of this song is absolutely incredible.

[Miles Prower]

I agree.

The beginning of this song just seems really sloppy to me, can't really explain it, might have something to do with the drums. Nevertheless, the middle to end of this song is absolutely incredible.

According to Muse Wiki the song was written around a drum beat Dom created.....:LOL:

But I agree, I really like it once it slows down then picks back up again. Like Micro Cuts it took me a little while to get into it, but I like it, enough to write in the designated appreciatory thread:p

[Clunge]

No it's not.

New Born however is.
Nu-uh.


I'll help! I think New Born is a great song, but it's too overrated.
Nu-uh.

I think Citizen Erased is awesome, I have no beef with it whatsoever. It's just not a 10/10 for me.

[Dominic.]

was there really no appreciation thread for this before?
and I don't really think new born's overrated, and neither is citizen erased..

[Obi]

Nu-uh.

Nu-uh.

I think Citizen Erased is awesome, I have no beef with it whatsoever. It's just not a 10/10 for me.

Same with me and New Born. :LOL:

[Clunge]

Same with me and New Born. :LOL:
:phu:.

[muoasise]

Waoww at 2002 so old :D

[LifeOfSydonia]

I was looking over the set-list for the teignmouth and Paris gigs, and I couldn't find Citizen Erased anywhere!

It's not a secret that Citizen Erased is a favourite among the Muse fans and I just can't belive that I won't be able to hear it live this year... I'm really upset about this.

So is it just me, or should this massive song be on the set-list?
What do you guys think?

[Clunge]

I can't say I'm all that bothered.

[Niall]

Might move this to S&R as it is mainly about one song rather than the gigs and tours themselves.

But to answer your question, because it is an old song. It isn't a single. Not everyone likes it. It requires its own guitar that is only used on that song. It takes up over 7 minutes that can be used to play new material or bring back older material that hasn't been played as often. Band are possibly bored of it.

[Juuso]

Might move this to S&R as it is mainly about one song rather than the gigs and tours themselves.

But to answer your question, because it is an old song. It isn't a single. Not everyone likes it. It requires its own guitar that is only used on that song. It takes up over 7 minutes that can be used to play new material or bring back older material that hasn't been played as often.Besides, there's nothing to say that it wouldn't appear as a rarity on this tour.

[Zaphod Chizzlebrox]

I remember the campaign to get it to number one on the itunes chart after all songs were made available individually. That went well :LOL:

[Obi]

I'd rather hear this song than almost any other song on their discography but I'm prepared for the fact I probably won't hear it.

Just rest in the knowledge that we'll still probably get a lot of other live favourites - New Born, Stockholm Syndrome, Knights of Cydonia and Hysteria almost certainly. :yesey:

[Clunge]

All of which are better live songs.

Citizen Erased sounded crap on the BH&R tour anyways. If they brought it back and it sounded like it did at Glastonbury, I'd care.

[LifeOfSydonia]

I'd rather hear this song than almost any other song on their discography but I'm prepared for the fact I probably won't hear it.

Just rest in the knowledge that we'll still probably get a lot of other live favourites - New Born, Stockholm Syndrome, Knights of Cydonia and Hysteria almost certainly. :yesey:


Yeah I guess... I just don't understand why they're playing Cave instead of one of the most powerful songs ^^

[L.]

Yeah I guess... I just don't understand why they're playing Cave instead of one of the most powerful songs ^^

Because Cave is an oldie that hasn't been played in ages and it was a real treat to be able to hear it :happy:

Given the choice I would rather have Muscle Museum or Micro Cuts than CE on this tour.

[Obi]

Yeah I guess... I just don't understand why they're playing Cave instead of one of the most powerful songs ^^

Cave won't be a regular on the setlist - tbh, they only played that at Tinmuff because they promised a song off the first album for their hometown.

They'll bring a few older songs back but I'm not really sure whether they'll be ambitious enough to bother with anything on OOS/Showbiz apart from NB, PIB and FG.

[LifeOfSydonia]

All of which are better live songs.

Citizen Erased sounded crap on the BH&R tour anyways. If they brought it back and it sounded like it did at Glastonbury, I'd care.

I agree. it sounded a lot better at Glastonbury and Hullabaloo, but it's still one of my favourites and it's one of the songs I was most eager to hear.

[Clunge]

Because they haven't played Cave in about eight years!

Don't bemoan the return of a song that has been on the shelf for that length of time!

[Obi]

Because Cave is an oldie that hasn't been played in ages and it was a real treat to be able to hear it :happy:

Given the choice I would rather have Muscle Museum or Micro Cuts than CE on this tour.

Micro Cuts doesn't seem to have the same power anymore. =/

Still, I'd love to hear one of Citizen, Micro Cuts, Space Dementia, Hyper Music or even Screenager but I can't see it happening. :LOL:

[Olly.]

Give them a chance, they haven't even started their tour properly :LOL: :facepalm:

[LifeOfSydonia]

Cave won't be a regular on the setlist - tbh, they only played that at Tinmuff because they promised a song off the first album for their hometown.

They'll bring a few older songs back but I'm not really sure whether they'll be ambitious enough to bother with anything on OOS/Showbiz apart from NB, PIB and FG.

But they played it in Paris to you know.

I'd rather hear something from OOS than something from the other albums actually. the best album (Y)

[L.]

Micro Cuts doesn't seem to have the same power anymore. =/

Still, I'd love to hear one of Citizen, Micro Cuts, Space Dementia, Hyper Music or even Screenager but I can't see it happening. :LOL:

What can I say Micro Cuts is my fav from OoS... Screenager with Rachmaninov intro would be great but yeah that's never gonna happen! :LOL:

[kev]

Micro Cuts doesn't seem to have the same power anymore. =/

Still, I'd love to hear one of Citizen, Micro Cuts, Space Dementia, Hyper Music or even Screenager but I can't see it happening. :LOL:
they played the first 3 of them in 2007/2008 so i assume they could bring them back depending on how they do their setlists (i guess all of us are praying the euro tour will have variety) they did hyper music riff too in 2008. can't see why screenager would return though :-/

[Wind Sorcerer]

they played the first 3 of them in 2007/2008 so i assume they could bring them back depending on how they do their setlists (i guess all of us are praying the euro tour will have variety) they did hyper music riff too in 2008. can't see why screenager would return though :-/

Screenager? I'd prefer Dark shines or Futurism. Or Escape or HT&ILY. Just something old. :D

[Ril]

I remember the campaign to get it to number one on the itunes chart after all songs were made available individually. That went well :LOL:
Oh did it get to number 1? :LOL:

[Ril]

they played the first 3 of them in 2007/2008 so i assume they could bring them back depending on how they do their setlists (i guess all of us are praying the euro tour will have variety) they did hyper music riff too in 2008. can't see why screenager would return though :-/
Ah so they did. I went from being so pumped to so gutted in the space of a second.

[LifeOfSydonia]

Micro Cuts doesn't seem to have the same power anymore. =/

Still, I'd love to hear one of Citizen, Micro Cuts, Space Dementia, Hyper Music or even Screenager but I can't see it happening. :LOL:

Yeah it's a real shame...

[Obi]

What can I say Micro Cuts is my fav from OoS... Screenager with Rachmaninov intro would be great but yeah that's never gonna happen! :LOL:

That would be orgasmic I must admit. I'm doing an essay on Rachy boy atm and how he influences modern musicians. Over-listening to Muse means I've struggled to list more than 1. :p

they played the first 3 of them in 2007/2008 so i assume they could bring them back depending on how they do their setlists (i guess all of us are praying the euro tour will have variety) they did hyper music riff too in 2008. can't see why screenager would return though :-/

Really? They played Space Dementia? :erm: Ah well. you never know. :cool:

[Zaphod Chizzlebrox]

Oh did it get to number 1? :LOL:

I don't think it even made 100 :LOL:

[Mozza]

It made 141 or something like that :LOL:

Most Overrated Muse song evarrrrr.

Seen it 3 times, I'm not fussed either way if it is played again or not

Dead Star please!

[dead-duck]

I couldn't help but notice this was a multiple choice poll - so i voted all 3 options :awesome:

To be honest, i'd like to hear CE, but I wouldn't be heartbroken if I didn't... there are other songs I'd rather hear :yesey:

[Pip]

I'm indifferent to it as a live song (I've seen it live a couple of times), can think of many others I'd rather see.

[Futurellama]

It makes a nice transition song early on in the set, around song five or six or so

[Gemsy]

I'd love to have Micro Cuts back.

[Dominic.]

they haven't even played a few of the songs off the new album yet, never mind rarities (excluding cave, but that was a tinmuff special) I'm sure there'll be a few rarities popping up on tour...

[WutDaFucksy]

Citizen Erased is yawn. You could fit 2 far better songs into it instead of having to wait for the half alright-half drab song to finish.

[AlexB]

i would rather have micro cuts and hyper music played than citizen. the piano just drags on for to long and makes it boring :(

[Dominic.]

Citizen Erased is yawn. You could fit 2 far better songs into it instead of having to wait for the half alright-half drab song to finish.

teh groove and in your world :awesome:

[WutDaFucksy]

teh groove and in your world :awesome:

I would love to see both of them :chuckle:

[bILLOO]

teh groove and in your world :awesome:

Yes! :awesome:

[Obi]

Citizen Erased is yawn. You could fit 2 far better songs into it instead of having to wait for the half alright-half drab song to finish.

:noey:

It's just full of Musey goodness. If Muse ever make a better song then I'll be flabbergasted.

i would rather have micro cuts and hyper music played than citizen. the piano just drags on for to long and makes it boring

That's the best part imo.

[WutDaFucksy]

:noey:

It's just full of Musey goodness. If Muse ever make a better song then I'll be flabbergasted.


They've made at least 25 better :p

[Obi]

They've made at least 25 better :p

Name. Them. All. :p


(don't really, you'll be there all night =[)

[WutDaFucksy]

Name. Them. All. :p


(don't really, you'll be there all night =[)

*sigh* (in no order)


Hysteria
Plug In Baby
Stockholm Syndrome
Dead Star
Knights of Cydonia
Bliss
Butterflies and Hurricanes
Map of the Problematique
New Born
HooDoo
Apocalypse Please
Take A Bow
Blackout
Showbiz
Sunburn
City of Delusion
Glorious
Uprising
Space Dementia
Undisclosed Desires
Resistance
MK Ultra
Unnatural Selection
United States of Eurasia
Exogenesis


:awesome:

[Obi]

*sigh* (in no order)


Hysteria
Plug In Baby
Stockholm Syndrome
Dead Star
Knights of Cydonia
Bliss
Butterflies and Hurricanes
Map of the Problematique
New Born
HooDoo
Apocalypse Please
Take A Bow
Blackout
Showbiz
Sunburn
City of Delusion
Glorious
Uprising
Space Dementia
Undisclosed Desires
Resistance
MK Ultra
Unnatural Selection
United States of Eurasia
Exogenesis


:awesome:

:O You're joking. The rest is almost tolerable though o.O


Actually, I pretty much like all those songs so well done, that was worth it. :LOL:

[WutDaFucksy]

:O You're joking. The rest is almost tolerable though o.O


Actually, I pretty much like all those songs so well done, that was worth it. :LOL:

Yeh im sorta into Uprising atm, soon i will be like :sleepy: about it hehe.

Woo :party:

[Obi]

I might consider Exogenesis actually. My original reaction of "this is the most amazing thing since the lightbulb" has sort of worn off but it's still really good.

[Qúentin Räikkönen]

I might consider Exogenesis actually. My original reaction of "this is the most amazing thing since the lightbulb" has sort of worn off but it's still really good.

They did say they would give it a go. :happy:

[MrsMatt]

I'd rather hear CE than, say, Unnatural Selection or Undisclosed Desires. But please don't play it instead of one of my faves! :eek: :chuckle:

[NaZZeX]

Tbh, I'm really fking pissed at them for choosing to play FG as a regular instead of Bliss.

I'd take Bliss extended over CE any second of any minute of any hour of any day of the week.

[seregon]

Give them a chance, they haven't even started their tour properly :LOL: :facepalm:

+1 they have only done a few gigs and they hardly play Citizen Erased anyway :wtf:

[nendo]

tbh i doubt they will play CE this tour. if they do the it will be towards the end wen they want to spice thing up. For most of the tour it will mostly be the new stuff aswell as most popular songs. Although CE might be popular u have to rmember that only for hardcore fans. for general fans it more hysteria supermassice knights etc

[Riveon]

Micro Cuts doesn't seem to have the same power anymore. =/
He looks after his voice now :LOL:

[Obi]

He looks after his voice now :LOL:

Silly boy :noey:

it's not as fun. :(:LOL:

tbh i doubt they will play CE this tour. if they do the it will be towards the end wen they want to spice thing up. For most of the tour it will mostly be the new stuff aswell as most popular songs. Although CE might be popular u have to rmember that only for hardcore fans. for general fans it more hysteria supermassice knights etc

What does hardcore fans mean? I think it's becoming a bit of a stereotype that every massive Muse fan loves Citizen Erased. I mean, I do, but that's not to say that all massive Musers are the same.

I certainly hope that I don't come across as a hardcore Muser. :LOL:

[JackAndrews]

it would me amazing to hear it live, but it wasnt released as a single and only a tiny minority of the crowd would recognise it. they should save it for a one off gig

[Obi]

it would me amazing to hear it live, but it wasnt released as a single and only a tiny minority of the crowd would recognise it. they should save it for a one off gig

Tiny minority? Musers are a pretty passionate bunch. I'd say a good 50, 60% would know it.

[nendo]

Silly boy :noey:

it's not as fun. :(:LOL:



What does hardcore fans mean? I think it's becoming a bit of a stereotype that every massive Muse fan loves Citizen Erased. I mean, I do, but that's not to say that all massive Musers are the same.

I certainly hope that I don't come across as a hardcore Muser. :LOL:

I was sterotyping there XD but i was trying to seperate general average gig goers with more intense muse fans.

[hipbones]

I'm indifferent to it as a live song (I've seen it live a couple of times), can think of many others I'd rather see.

I am yet to see it live, but I wouldn't be bothered if I never got the chance. As you say, there are SO many other tracks I'd rather hear...Showbiz, TSP, Uno, Assassin, Deadstar etc.

Also, as Olly said - they Euro tour hasn't even started yet, give them a chance.

[Clunge]

I'll be anyone an e-fiver that Citizen Erased doesn't get played on The Resistance tour (i.e. the upcoming European one). I think it will reappear towards the latter stages though, mid to late 2010.

[JackAndrews]

I'll be anyone an e-fiver that Citizen Erased doesn't get played on The Resistance tour (i.e. the upcoming European one). I think it will reappear towards the latter stages though, mid to late 2010.
its a song that id be disappointed if it gets played on every show of the tour, i wouldnt want to expect it to be played when i see them, id want it to be a surprise.
its something that should be kept for few occasions

[sam_jk]

I wanna hear it or Bliss!

[lucidity]

Ruled By Secrecy just shits all over Citizen.



Well not really, but it is better :LOL:

[graciegirl]

I'm not fussed; I love the song and I consider myself a hardcore Muser but any song live is a treat. Cave at Teignmouth was fab so it'd be nice to hear stuff from their Showbiz days but Matt said in an interview about performing tracks that fit in with the current theme of The Resistance.

If they played every song we asked for we'd be there for days! :)

[Mozza]

I have a 75% success rate of seeing it live. I'm not bothered either way.

I need Hyper Music and Dead Star to improve my list of Muse songs I've seen.

[Futurellama]

Ruled By Secrecy just shits all over Citizen.



Well not really, but it is better :LOL:

I agree with this.

[OpenMinded]

Someone PLEASE tell me why it isn't on there... amazing song... what were they thinking.

[Clunge]

Shush.

[_Ed_]

Someone PLEASE tell me why it isn't on their... amazing song... what were they thinking.
The tour hasn't started yet.

[OpenMinded]

theyve played multiple gigs... no CE

[lucidity]

theyve played multiple gigs... no CE

The tour hasn't started yet.

...

[madjackmcmad]

theyve played multiple gigs... no CE

The tour hasn't started yet.

But I think you'll be lucky to get CE if i'm honest.

[_Ed_]

I think it'll be played a few times on the tour - it's too much of a crowd favourite to drop it altogether. But yeah, it won't be a regular.

[Clunge]

It'll crop up every so often - but as has been said, Muse are yet to start The Resistance tour proper, it would make no sense to use up 7-8 minutes of set time when playing as support for U2 whose audience is likely to be largely unfamiliar with Muse, particularly their lesser known numbers.

And also, CE was in the sets solidly 2001-2005 and made plenty of appearances on the BH&R tour. Time for a rest, I think.

[SlaveToTheGrave]

I would rather have a couple more tracks from Showbiz to be honest.

[forevermusic]

I think the CE version on the BHaR Tour wasn't as moving or powerful as the versions on the OoS and Absolution Tours.

[Suvi]

I would rather have a couple more tracks from Showbiz to be honest.

i agree. but i'd be more than grateful if i would have the chance to hear it live.

[madjackmcmad]

I think the CE version on the BHaR Tour wasn't as moving or powerful as the versions on the OoS and Absolution Tours.

Possiby because Matt was either unwilling or no longer able to hit the really high notes.

'Hold your Stage' became 'Hold yowawawawawawawaw' on the BHaR tour

[Anxyous]

I really love, how Matt's vocals are extended into infinity in the first slow part - the last word of the chorus 'free' goes on for a very long time, and is perhaps replaced by a synth, or sampled vocals :)

[Futurellama]

Far better than the repetitive New Born.

[Obi]

Far better than the repetitive New Born.

:yesey:

(New Born is still really good though.)

[Hopix]

This is another appreciation thread, but this one's for Citizen Erased (I annoy myself with posts and threads). Anyways, show everyone your admiration for Citizen Erased here.

My favorite part is the intro riff with the harmonics. I wish I knew how to make my distortion sound like that!:mad:

I find standard reverb or delay plus heavy distortion about right for that part.

[Lick My Face]

New Born is not the following:


over-rated;
repetitive.


The only reason it may be repetitive is because of its (pretty standard) structure. Other than that, it's awesome. :happy:

Citizen Erased is alright. I enjoy playing it on t'Bass, followed immediately by Micro Cuts, 's about it.

[Obi]

New Born is not the following:


over-rated;
repetitive.


The only reason it may be repetitive is because of its (pretty standard) structure. Other than that, it's awesome. :happy:

Citizen Erased is alright. I enjoy playing it on t'Bass, followed immediately by Micro Cuts, 's about it.

But the standard structure is exactly what makes it repetitive. I'm okay with that though because it has a good solo and the 6 mins fly by.

[Futurellama]

I prefer the single version of New Born

[JakeLulz]

I love the way Matt sings the chorus and the guitar during :D:D

It's really uplifting for a depressing song.

[Tunavi]

The genius of citizen erased is the last two minutes...everything else is pretty average to me...

[Elobliss]

ZOMFGGGGGG!!!!11!!!!1!1! I WUVZ DIS SONGGGZ!!1!

Seriously. The last two minutes are so beautiful. You don't get many rock bands creating masterpieces like Citizen Erased. Such a depressing song, but listening to it always makes me day :D

And yes, it IS better than New Born.

[dogface]

I love this song. I think the Hullabaloo version kicks the shit out of the album version though (the album version is still amazing). This song has everything: mega riff, heavy part, quiet part and at 3:53 the sound of a small child eating an apple beneath a weeping willow.

Even my mum thought this was amazing god rest her soul. In her words "He's got a very haunting voice"

[NoSurprisesPlease]

My favourite Muse track, epitomises everything they're about for me.

I spend a lot of time trying to convince a friend who bums Exogenesis (which is also fucking awesome) that Citizen Erased leading into Micro Cuts is really the best 12 or so minutes of music Muse have ever recorded.

[ae86drifter]

+1

I agree...IMO, this song defines Muse.

[xCitizenErasedx]

reference to my user name lol my personal favourite Muse song

[OpenMinded]

I LOVE THIS SONG :) i hope they play it when i see them... anyone know if they have been?

[Dispatch Absolution]

i'm not sure if this is the citizen erased vs. new born thread haha buuut Citizen Erased is fantastic, the only problem is i'll probably not be able to see it live.. :rolleyes: oh well, i can still listen to it live!

[alternaterealities]

Impossible for me to appreciate this song enough, it's so amazing. :happy:

[bellamyspiano]

Tis tattooed on my body, that's how much I appreciateszsz it ;)

[Starlight Chaser]

Definitely their best work, just pure awesomeness!

[Gembleby]

I remember properly hearing Citizen Erased for the first time, I used to put albums on my ipod and just put them on shuffle and not really pay attention to the song titles, plus I only used to listen to the songs I already knew (shameful :$). I was sitting in my hotel room in Las Vegas looking out on the strip, and this amazing riff came through the speakers, and by the time the chorus kicked in I was completely blown away. A real 'holy crap what the hell was that!?' sort of moment :happy:

It is definitely my favourite Muse song, if I ever heard it played live I think my head would explode!

[bellamyspiano]

I remember properly hearing Citizen Erased for the first time, I used to put albums on my ipod and just put them on shuffle and not really pay attention to the song titles, plus I only used to listen to the songs I already knew (shameful :$). I was sitting in my hotel room in Las Vegas looking out on the strip, and this amazing riff came through the speakers, and by the time the chorus kicked in I was completely blown away. A real 'holy crap what the hell was that!?' sort of moment :happy:

It is definitely my favourite Muse song, if I ever heard it played live I think my head would explode!

Nawww! That's such a good story! :)

[parkeros]

So me and my son got scammed by Museboxoffice.com and now we're both devastated we cant go to the concert on the 13th

So we were wondering if anyone had any tickets 'lying around' or that kind of thing for tommorow. Please please please tell me if you do and we can try and work something out

Also we're looking for two seated tickets pretty much anywhere, thanks :)

thanks again and please reply soon :D

[ElissaErased]

Are you out there?!

Where would you guys like to see Muse perform?

[tobo]

Has anyone heard if the band is planning on playing in Vancouver BC in December?

[Becks]

Has anyone heard if the band is planning on playing in Vancouver BC in December?

They're not. They're playing in Seattle.

[parkeros]

The show is today D:

please please please, ANYBODY with two seated tickets for the 13th please post here or PM me. My son had been counting the days towards today for two months!

Please let me know if you have any tickets :)

[Maïane]

Perhaps you can have a look at http://board.muse.mu/showthread.php?t=33546 ;)
Good luck !

[cassw]

Last night my brother found a rather nice watch.
He handed it in to a security guard on the way out and he said he would give it to lost property.
He was standing on the left hand side, probably about 20 or so rows back.
So if you lost a watch and was standing on the left its worth phoning the O2 in case it was yours.
Also my sister lost her phone, not in the crowd (she was right in the mosh pit and everything!), but as we were walking out!! It was in a pink eyore case. Just wondering if anyone found it

[smiss]

Am I the only one to think that citizen erased is the BEST Muse song??? please no because this song is really the most beautiful one, epic, powerful, crying song! :)

[miss_meadows]

You'reright, it's great, it's also one of my faves.

[OriginOfShowbiz]

It's one of my favourites!! I agree, it's one the most beautiful, heartfelt and powerful songs I've ever heard. Same goes for Micro Cuts.
I know a lot of Musers love it too, you're not alone :happy:

[Sandman]

My favourite Muse song.

Their most complete musically as well IMO, It has everything. The piano part at the end sends shivers down my spine.

[Anxyous]

You know what's also awesome?

The search function.

[smiss]

You know what's also awesome?

The search function.

Noooo!!??!! :D sorry but i used it before i put the thread! I just wanted to create this thread for musers in love with that song . To express theirself about the song, how they understant it, how they fell it! but I found nothing on the forum but if you do please tell me.

[Clunge]

It's overrated.

[Dina F.K.K.]

yeah, it's a powerful song, n it's one of my fave songs all of time, a long with stockholm syndrome.

[smiss]

i wish they could remake those particular sounds from OOS! a song like citizen erased will never be made again I guess...in that song you've got so differents ways, a lot of musical directions: loud/quiet, powerful/sadness ... i cannot express myself clearly! but I really had a crush on that song

[Anxyous]

i wish they could remake those particular sounds from OOS! a song like citizen erased will never be made again I guess...in that song you've got so differents ways, a lot of musical directions: loud/quiet, powerful/sadness ... i cannot express myself clearly! but I really had a crush on that song

Which makes it all the more special.

[SaveTheHostages!]

If they play this live next time I see them I will die a happy man, did they play it the first wembley night?

[Hopix]

It's overrated.

It aint. It's my second favourite ever after Exogenesis.

[Mizutsu]

Citizen Erased is a dang good song. It may not be as good as some people make it out to be, but it definitely deserves a spot on the Top 10 Muse songs and Top 50 best songs ever. Matthew's voice gets challenged a great deal of course. :LOL:

[Clunge]

It aint. It's my second favourite ever after Exogenesis.
Tis'.

[Zaphod Chizzlebrox]

Definitely over-rated. It's a good song but it ain't all that. Muse have made better songs.

[boomeraangsquad]

Am I the only one to think that citizen erased is the BEST Muse song??? please no because this song is really the most beautiful one, epic, powerful, crying song! :)
You're definitely not. It is actually quite popular among these boards.

It isn't my favorite. It is one of mine though. Brilliant song.

[Finlay]

Definitely over-rated. It's a good song but it ain't all that. Muse have made better songs.

CLASSIC CLUNGE.

But yeah, it's absolutely fantastic and should be played more often:D

[psyence53]

It's definitey up there. I can't say i have A favourite song, only "one of my faves.." haha. This is one of those. It really is epic. This was like an early taste of things to come. The lyrics are incredible. Very intense song. Haunting.

[Clunge]

CLASSIC CLUNGE.

But yeah, it's absolutely fantastic and should be played more often:D
Y'wut?

[cherry lips]

i think that it's pretty amazing not my greatest one (MoTP,Muscle Museum,Bliss) but i love the song! :p

[azel1963]

Yep, my favourite.
In my opinion, its the definitive Muse song.

[Naughtrish]

For me it is a very close second to B&H (well that's my favourite ever, so sue me :p )

[Mrcookie]

I love it :D
makes me think of my girlfriend. Don't know why.. :rolleyes:

Should also be said that along with MotP it's my favourite. I really think that those two songs got THE Muse sound, with a bit of everything that makes them good :yesey:

[musestu]

Should be played more live, also bring back BAH

[smiss]

I totally agreee!!! play it live pleeeasssseee!!!!

[joffoir]

Its my fave muse song, especially the Hullabaloo version - ( I love that album, their best live recording IMO.) Its not often I get a tear in my eye, but that song just touches me in strange places, especially the ending. I've seen it live twice (it used to be a standard) and its a beast. I don't even really know what its all about but it just moves me. Sigh!

[Becks]

Yes.

[OpenMinded]

Please muse put citizen on the setlist, especially for bdo =d

[Naughtrish]

If the guys read the forum like Chris said in the french interview... PLEASE PLAY CITIZEN ERASED if you ever come to Buenos Aires again :D

[pinkfloyddsotm]

i wish they made more songs like CE

[Map of the Problematique]

i wish they made more songs like CE

Agreed, it's one of Muse's best songs. It is my third favourite Muse song ever (behind MotP and New Born).
I really hope they play it at Wembley next year :happy:

[Manius]

i wish they made more songs like CE

I wish that too but they can't keep making more of the same stuff. It's a brilliant song though. 4th favourite behind Butterflies and Hurricanes, New Born and Bliss

[Uprising Bliss]

I don't like it that much...

[OpenMinded]

I don't like it that much...

Cos you cant handle its awesomeness

[naget4music]

WASH ME AWAY!!!!:happy: In my top 5

[Joseph.]

lol the tags for the thread

[Becks]

lol the tags for the thread

:chuckle:

[Riveon]

Cos you cant handle its awesomeness
In contrast to the username... ;)

[Anxyous]

In contrast to the username... ;)

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn :LOL:

[madzip]

I don't like it that much...

Go wash your mouth out.....

.. its the best ever muse song EVER....

.. so glad I got to hear it at Wembley 07.. I can now officially die happy.

[bazzer]

it is one of my favourite songs and alot of people i know to! they played it last time they were at wembley first night (i think). Cant believe it isnt a regular in the setlist (when they can make room for feeling good)

[smiss]

Go wash your mouth out.....

.. its the best ever muse song EVER....

.. so glad I got to hear it at Wembley 07.. I can now officially die happy.

Ohhh yeahh!!!! I definately agree with you!! It's ma fav too!! :D:D:D

[musestu]

They really need it back, lets face it MOTP and Cave are for the fans but every fan would prefer this

[Hopix]

tags :awesome:

[Josefine]

I kind of like this song.

[Ril]

This song is the most amazing song ever in the history of ever.

[Hopix]

This song is the most amazing song ever in the history of ever.

It really is. :awesome:

[svenBliss]

The intro through the first chorus is the best part, then the next best part is the soloish thing, then the second chorus.

[Citizen_Eraser]

This song just has an amount of quality that it is hard to put into a few words. It is the lyrics, the stark contrast, the solo, the beautiful ending.

Im an American fan who first heard Muse with Absolution (TIRO specifically) which is really the first chance an American had to hear Muse. So I bought abso and looked up a ton of old stuff online. Most of abso and most of the old stuff I didn't really like at first, it had to grow on me to what it is now.

But Citizen Erased was different. The first Muse song I had ever heard that instantly struck me, blew me away so hard on the first listen. I must've replayed that song 20 times the first night I had heard it. Nothing has matched it since (bar exogenesis which I DO consider Muse's best work ever but I feel its too different and not really a "song" persay, so it doesn't count.) By song I mean single Muse track.

[One Swei Tres]

One of their best songs,the heavyness,the slow interlude in the middle,the beautiful piano outro,it's a masterpiece.

[miss_meadows]

One of their best songs,the heavyness,the slow interlude in the middle,the beautiful piano outro,it's a masterpiece.

Couldn't have said/written/described it better! It's one of their best songs ever to my mind.:)

[One Swei Tres]

Citizen deserves to be back on the setlist,I would take it any day over Guiding Light.Also even if the new fans don't know Citizen,they would still be able to appreciate it at a concert.

[They]

even if the new fans don't know Citizen,they would still be able to appreciate it at a concert.

No better way for them to appreciate it than Matt's larger than life live version.

[bagelsftw]

Words cannot describe how awesome this song is.

620+ fans and counting... :ninja: (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Muse-Citizen-Erased/154060109814?ref=ts)

I don't like the b33f about it being overrated. Citizen Erased is awesome. Period. :awesome:

[Gothcydonia]

Of course!:awesome::dance::musesign:

[They]

^^ Whoa didnt know about that fan page.

Signed, its not every day I become a fan of an individual song, just goes to show how good CE is.

[OpenMinded]

:| ahh where did muse go wrong. After listening to this it makes me realise how truely horrible the resistance is (excluding exo)

[TrebleRose689]

I very recently decided that CE is probably my favorite Muse song ever (I hate trying to choose/define "favorite" songs... which is why I usually try not to do so :LOL:) But this song is just so incredible.

I've been on a massive CE kick the past few days, which is why I think this epiphany just suddenly appeared :p

It's just so darn emotional with amazing music and a great mixture of heavy and soft stuff. The ending of this song is my absolute favorite thing in the world <3 :D

[Izzy]

I very recently decided that CE is probably my favorite Muse song ever (I hate trying to choose/define "favorite" songs... which is why I usually try not to do so :LOL:) But this song is just so incredible.

I've been on a massive CE kick the past few days, which is why I think this epiphany just suddenly appeared :p

It's just so darn emotional with amazing music and a great mixture of heavy and soft stuff. The ending of this song is my absolute favorite thing in the world <3 :D

THIS:)

[MUSEirik]

THIS:)

+2
The epicness of the first verse and chorus
The slow second verse and chorus
The incredible part at the end

Amazing!

[m0hawk]

Easily a top 10 Muse song.

That huge mother riff.
The chord progression in the verse.
Matt's incredible emotional singing.
The ethereal 2nd verse + 2nd chorus
That "do or die" solo
That beautiful outro (the Hubbababoo version made me disseminate manly tears)

[xbroken_ideals]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQHP0nr7maE&feature=related

[Riveon]

I'm in one of those exceedingly rare moods where I love this song. I shall enjoy it while it lasts.

[xbroken_ideals]

Riveon...:chuckle:

[Hopix]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQHP0nr7maE&feature=related

It's actually amazing.

[Sippe]

It's actually amazing.
It started pretty awful, but goddamn, when the "singing" starts <3

[MUSEirik]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQHP0nr7maE&feature=related

I don't usually like the 8-bit versions, but this one's actually pretty cool :happy: *download*

[naomithegreat]

FOR ONE MOMEEEEENNNNNT...

i love singing that out loud.

[Gigapoodle]

I'm on a CE splurge right now...I can't stop listening to live versions of this....

God this is awesome :awesome:

[Lauren.]

I'm on a CE splurge right now...I can't stop listening to live versions of this....

Me too! I currently love this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC2F-2H2Piw

[Originally_Symmetrical]

Me too! I currently love this one

I currently love this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8nuR57gh-Q&playnext_from=TL&videos=urTwTPFRF8g

[Kashelle]

Matt's voice sounds so sexy in the soft parts, with good headphones, it sounds like he's intentionally singing into your ear very softly. :ninja: His warm breath flowing over your neck and his lips grazing your earlobe tenderly.

And the falsetto <33333333333

[Gigapoodle]

And I love this version today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKJIFYWmDf4

[Davinq]

They played it in Portugal! They played CE for the first time in ages!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz3nIcJTTE8

Muselive link (http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=47107)

[xbroken_ideals]

Matt's voice sounds so sexy in the soft parts, with good headphones, it sounds like he's intentionally singing into your ear very softly. :ninja: His warm breath flowing over your neck and his lips grazing your earlobe tenderly.

And the falsetto <33333333333

Holy fuck :eek: *quivers*

[Hopix]

They played it in Portugal! They played CE for the first time in ages!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz3nIcJTTE8

Muselive link (http://www.muselive.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=47107)

They played it not so long ago in Japan. This tour.

Sexy performance though!

[bagelsftw]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yztVRn1xKxQ
I love this version. Matt jumping around, Chris head banging and the crowd going crazy :awesome:
i wish somebody could make this HD quality :ninja:

[spark_]

Only really recently started getting into it - now appreciate just how vast, varied and, well, epic this one track is though. Often just listen to it by itself, so the feeling is 'ruined' by other songs.

[OsakaDan]

Who were the 9 nine people who voted: HELL NO! ? :mad:

[Anxyous]

Who were the 9 nine people who voted: HELL NO! ? :mad:


dan4689, dead-duck, dead0citizen, humble-bee, martonminx, Miggster, nendo, NewBornBenny and oxoxox.

[Gretterati]

asdf they need to keep playing this. They'd better bring it to the US! I'll cry if I never get to see it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yztVRn1xKxQ
I love this version. Matt jumping around, Chris head banging and the crowd going crazy :awesome:
i wish somebody could make this HD quality :ninja:

Mhmmm I think this is my favorite live performance of it! It's one of the first ones I saw, too.

[Tunavi]

dead-duck

lol

[Novus Dies]

Who were the 9 nine people who voted: HELL NO! ? :mad:

I don't know, but by the look of that smiley you used, and if it represents the face you are currently making in any form, I'd say you are probably now going to spend many weeks looking for their addresses, tracking them down, and murdering them with a knife.

Calm down bro, some people just dont like some songs for some reason :rolleyes:

Something about onionions, or onpinions....opinions...yea thats the one! OPINIONS

[Hopix]

I don't know, but by the look of that smiley you used, and if it represents the face you are currently making in any form, I'd say you are probably now going to spend many weeks looking for their addresses, tracking them down, and murdering them with a knife.

Calm down bro, some people just dont like some songs for some reason :rolleyes:

Something about onionions, or onpinions....opinions...yea thats the one! OPINIONS

Wow, don't go overboard then.:rolleyes:

[Novus Dies]

Wow, don't go overboard then.:rolleyes:

No way.

I've seen that face several times before in real life.

It always results in that person going texas chainsaw massacre on someone, plus it is actually the expression of pure violence....if you look at any video of someone about to commit a sudden outburst violent act, they make this face most of the time.

Just sayin', shit like this happens from time to time.

[Hopix]

No way.

I've seen that face several times before in real life.

It always results in that person going texas chainsaw massacre on someone

Yeah and internet based simplistic smileys are ALWAYS completely reflective of how the real person would look.

I should probably stop replying to you now, because all you really want is a response. That's all trolls really want isn't it?

I'm just bored at the moment so I thought, stuff it.

[Novus Dies]

Yeah and internet based simplistic smileys are ALWAYS completely reflective of how the real person would look.

I should probably stop replying to you now, because all you really want is a response. That's all trolls really want isn't it?

I'm just bored at the moment so I thought, stuff it.

:LOL:

[Originally_Symmetrical]

asdf they need to keep playing this. They'd better bring it to the US! I'll cry if I never get to see it....

I know! I wish that they would do the set list poll for the US tour, too.

[Gretterati]

I know! I wish that they would do the set list poll for the US tour, too.

They don't love us quite like they do their European and Asian fans :'(

[.BleedTheSame.]

They don't love us quite like they do their European and Asian fans :'(

But we love them like European and Asian fans :supersad:

[Gigapoodle]

But we love them like European and Asian fans :supersad:

Most of us, anyway :LOL:

[One Swei Tres]

Sharing the CE version from V Festival 2001 since I don't think that many fans have seen this version,great performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wklwlX7vQbY

[Gigapoodle]

Sharing the CE version from V Festival 2001 since I don't think that many fans have seen this version,great performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wklwlX7vQbY

That was awesome! Thank you for sharin' that :happy:

[spark_]

Mmmkay.

A few weeks ago I didn't think about this song at all, it was one of those I just had no opinion on because I had it on auto-skip, I just didn't listen to it all.

Then I come here and see everyone going mad over this song, and I wonder what all the fuss is about.

Suffice to say...

...I get what the fuss is about. Cheers Musers. Now in my top three-four Muse songs and my top-tenish ever songs.

[Davinq]

Sharing the CE version from V Festival 2001 since I don't think that many fans have seen this version,great performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wklwlX7vQbY

So... many... mistakes! :LOL:

[Aussie Muser]

Well I don't have a favourite Muse song, I have like six or seven equal favourites and depending on my mood, they rotate. But Citizen Erased is right up there at the moment. Anyway, this is my review of CE from the OOS review/rate thread - if it doesn't make sense, that's because its written in the form of track by track flowing into the next to get an idea of the flow of the album.

"Citizen Erased" is widely considered the best Muse song and for good reason. From start to finish this seven minute epic is absolutely brilliant - the overrated calls are not justified in my opinion as this song deserves to be loved and deserves to win any competition or any poll for best Muse song.

Oh dear, I came so much I forgot to describe the actual song. Okay, let's see. First there is the opening harmonics are everything we love about Muse and then that bassy riff starts and oh dear Lord! What more can we say?

The verse again is slightly quiet and also resembles the rhythm of Hyper Music but then the chorus is screamed out and we hear that wonderful falsetto we love so much before the song breaks down a bit for that mini guitar solo between the first chorus and second verse.

Then as we break into the second chorus and we realise there is just as much emotion in it when it is sung quietly and gently, not to mention an octave lower. But then the harmonics/riff and bass kick back in again and we have that epic guitar solo and one more screaming version of the chorus.

The song could end now and you'd be content - it's been five minutes of pure brilliance - but this is where I think CE earns most of it's points. It doesn't end. The guitar continues with the same melody as the verse before that part at around 5:19 where the guitar slows right now and even better the chord played at exactly 5:40 when it feels like the song resolves itself and for the last minute and a half it becomes a ballad but it is so beautiful it just makes it even more epic, the piano outro and the falsetto and that noise in the background enhances:

[spark_]

Well I don't have a favourite Muse song, I have like six or seven equal favourites and depending on my mood, they rotate. But Citizen Erased is right up there at the moment. Anyway, this is my review of CE from the OOS review/rate thread - if it doesn't make sense, that's because its written in the form of track by track flowing into the next to get an idea of the flow of the album.

"Citizen Erased" is widely considered the best Muse song and for good reason. From start to finish this seven minute epic is absolutely brilliant - the overrated calls are not justified in my opinion as this song deserves to be loved and deserves to win any competition or any poll for best Muse song.

Oh dear, I came so much I forgot to describe the actual song. Okay, let's see. First there is the opening harmonics are everything we love about Muse and then that bassy riff starts and oh dear Lord! What more can we say?

The verse again is slightly quiet and also resembles the rhythm of Hyper Music but then the chorus is screamed out and we hear that wonderful falsetto we love so much before the song breaks down a bit for that mini guitar solo between the first chorus and second verse.

Then as we break into the second chorus and we realise there is just as much emotion in it when it is sung quietly and gently, not to mention an octave lower. But then the harmonics/riff and bass kick back in again and we have that epic guitar solo and one more screaming version of the chorus.

The song could end now and you'd be content - it's been five minutes of pure brilliance - but this is where I think CE earns most of it's points. It doesn't end. The guitar continues with the same melody as the verse before that part at around 5:19 where the guitar slows right now and even better the chord played at exactly 5:40 when it feels like the song resolves itself and for the last minute and a half it becomes a ballad but it is so beautiful it just makes it even more epic, the piano outro and the falsetto and that noise in the background enhances:
I'm really enjoying reading your breakdowns. This is pretty good again.

[Tunavi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC2F-2H2Piw#t=3m54s

I have this video linked to 3 minutes 54 seconds. This is CE at Glastonbury in 04. WHAT IS THIS RIFF? Is it original?

[Anxyous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC2F-2H2Piw#t=3m54s

I have this video linked to 3 minutes 54 seconds. This is CE at Glastonbury in 04. WHAT IS THIS RIFF? Is it original?

No idea, but in part due to that riff, it's my favourite Muse performance ever, second only to Stockholm Syndrome from the same gig :D

[Davinq]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC2F-2H2Piw#t=3m54s

I have this video linked to 3 minutes 54 seconds. This is CE at Glastonbury in 04. WHAT IS THIS RIFF? Is it original?

That's why it's easily the best CE performance. That harmonic can only get so repetitive.

[Victoroy]

No idea, but in part due to that riff, it's my favourite Muse performance ever, second only to Stockholm Syndrome from the same gig :D
Yes indeed :D I'm still disappointed that the Wembley version never made it onto HAARP :(

[Izzy]

Well I don't have a favourite Muse song, I have like six or seven equal favourites and depending on my mood, they rotate. But Citizen Erased is right up there at the moment. Anyway, this is my review of CE from the OOS review/rate thread - if it doesn't make sense, that's because its written in the form of track by track flowing into the next to get an idea of the flow of the album.

"Citizen Erased" is widely considered the best Muse song and for good reason. From start to finish this seven minute epic is absolutely brilliant - the overrated calls are not justified in my opinion as this song deserves to be loved and deserves to win any competition or any poll for best Muse song.

Oh dear, I came so much I forgot to describe the actual song. Okay, let's see. First there is the opening harmonics are everything we love about Muse and then that bassy riff starts and oh dear Lord! What more can we say?

The verse again is slightly quiet and also resembles the rhythm of Hyper Music but then the chorus is screamed out and we hear that wonderful falsetto we love so much before the song breaks down a bit for that mini guitar solo between the first chorus and second verse.

Then as we break into the second chorus and we realise there is just as much emotion in it when it is sung quietly and gently, not to mention an octave lower. But then the harmonics/riff and bass kick back in again and we have that epic guitar solo and one more screaming version of the chorus.

The song could end now and you'd be content - it's been five minutes of pure brilliance - but this is where I think CE earns most of it's points. It doesn't end. The guitar continues with the same melody as the verse before that part at around 5:19 where the guitar slows right now and even better the chord played at exactly 5:40 when it feels like the song resolves itself and for the last minute and a half it becomes a ballad but it is so beautiful it just makes it even more epic, the piano outro and the falsetto and that noise in the background enhances:

One good review :)
The last part of the song is just sooooooo beautiful I can't even think about it without crying.
ABOSLUTELY.BRILLIANT.

[MKScorpion]

It would be nice to listen to a more recent playing of the song.

[Aussie Muser]

That's why it's easily the best CE performance. That harmonic can only get so repetitive.

that's why I love live Muse - they don't just play the album versions, they love to mix it up with riffs/jams and other impromptu bits and pieces.

This little part here is a perfect example of how they made a great song even better live!

[Hopix]

No 2010 pro shot of this yet. :(

typical I suppose...

[spark_]

If you can, have a go at playing the last piano chords. You really do get a sense of just how good his grasp of harmony is.

[Azzy_p]

It would be nice to listen to a more recent playing of the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBhR7WE_h0I

TZ7 at rock im park.. closest you'll get to a proshot without being a proshot :P

sorry if this has already been posted :(

[Hopix]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBhR7WE_h0I

TZ7 at rock im park.. closest you'll get to a proshot without being a proshot :P

sorry if this has already been posted :(

Thx!

I was looking for a decent recording from the recent gigs! :)

[interpolpirate]

Thx!

I was looking for a decent recording from the recent gigs! :)

so so good:D

I'm so glad this is back on the list. Hope they play it at manchester.

[Davinq]

so so good:D

I'm so glad this is back on the list. Hope they play it at manchester.

+1, it should never have left. :indiff:

[WutDaFucksy]

:sleepy:



I shall leave now :p

[Gretterati]

Every time the outro starts my head just goes blank and then these chills start washing over me and it's always :eek:

[randomparrot]

Love the song, The Riff is awesome and when it returns it sounds a billion times awesomer than before :D